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Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 7:59 PM
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Hellll of a QB and deserves a tip of the cap
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:03 PM
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He was great, probably better than DJ today, as well as DJ did.
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110%er [6153]
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DJ led his team to the win on the road vs a ranked team.
Sep 24, 2022, 8:06 PM
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As much as I loved Hartman’s game, DJ was better over all.
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Freshman [-79]
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Exactly. Not even debatable really.***
Sep 24, 2022, 8:10 PM
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Hartman had more tds, better percentage, and higher qbr
Sep 24, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Against, at least on paper, a much better defense. Not debatable? Just a ridiculous statement.
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Re: Hartman had more tds, better percentage, and higher qbr
Sep 24, 2022, 10:24 PM
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Thank you. I wasn't comparing the two just admiring a great performance.
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Freshman [-79]
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Who win the game, and why?
Sep 24, 2022, 10:42 PM
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MVP was DJ.
Gthoh with that.
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Re: Hartman had more tds, better percentage, and higher qbr
Sep 24, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Again, a Defense that is not a full strength missing multiple starters on the road. But Hartman is really good, had a solid game today, excellent down field throws. Did everything he could too win that game.
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Freshman [-79]
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DJ played better, and that's why we won.
Sep 24, 2022, 10:39 PM
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Again, Hartman is a good QB, and he was good tonight, but the two points I'm making are 1) Hartman had a TON of yards against DBs who just flat out played the ball terribly. Good passes, but the difference was DB play. And 2) DJ was the MVP of the game. Enough said.
Please give it a rest.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:06 PM
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Are you kidding? DJ played awesome and Hartman was playing against 3rd team defensive backs.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:15 PM
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Hartman's passes were spot on. DJ was great today, no doubt. But Hartman really seems to throw perfect passes. I'm just judging on that.
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Freshman [-79]
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Again, a significant amount of his completions were to covered guys where
Sep 24, 2022, 8:23 PM
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we didn't even turn around to find the ball. There is no way he outplayed DJ. That's nuts
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 10:29 PM
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Perfect passes? If our guys just looked for the ball at all, there would have been several picks.
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Freshman [-79]
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Bingo. And an even more serious note..
Sep 24, 2022, 10:47 PM
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What's the deal with that technique? I like Mike Reed, but I've seen this a lot over his tenure, WHY ARE WE SO BAD AT TURNING AND LOCATING THE BALL?
It doesn't matter if they're true freshman or not, every DB at every level is taught to turn and find the ball.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 9:38 PM
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Wake defensive backfield was missing guys too in the 2nd half
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 10:25 PM
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.... You can't be serious
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I disagree wholeheartedly. He wasn't better than DJ.
Sep 24, 2022, 8:10 PM
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A very large portion of his completions were toss ups against young DBs who need to learn how to locate the Valk in the air.
Hartman an excellent QB, but DJ outplayed him today. Without doubt.
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No idea how that happened.. "Valk" equals ball.***
Sep 24, 2022, 8:12 PM
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DJ stood tall and threw the Valk well today. Very well.
Sep 24, 2022, 9:33 PM
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Spot the Valk. Win the Valk game. Valk game!
YOu may have coined the next Tnet phrase...
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Re: I disagree wholeheartedly. He wasn't better than DJ.
Sep 24, 2022, 9:09 PM
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Half of the PI’s were due to the ball being so badly under thrown that the WR unnaturally had to slow down and move through the DB to get back to the ball. I don’t give Hartman much credit for those plays. He was solid, but not outstanding.
DJ was alright. I’ve stopped expecting him to live up to the recruiting ratings. If he can be a poor-man’s Taj Boyd, we can still have success.
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Tajh had Sammy and Nuke and Jaron Brown..at the same time***
Sep 24, 2022, 9:34 PM
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Hartman had the advantage of just chucking it
Sep 24, 2022, 8:43 PM
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up for the PI penalty. Just throw it up!
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Re: Hartman had the advantage of just chucking it
Sep 24, 2022, 8:50 PM
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Hartman was playing to their strengths. He'll be drafted in the first two rounds.
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Sam was throwing a lot of good balls. DJ played a great
Sep 24, 2022, 8:08 PM
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game. The two pt. conversion throw was amazing, one-legged. Best game we've seen in a long time. Truly loved it!!
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Me too!! Yet we STILL have fans being critical
Sep 24, 2022, 8:09 PM
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when he's quite possibly our BEST player right now.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:10 PM
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This may be the best Wake O line we will ever face. He had a great game but we were so close to getting him quite a few downs.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:17 PM
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Wake O line played great. Gotta give them credit. I’m sure Sam knows whose taking care of him. Great road win. Go Tigers!!
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:14 PM
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Tip of the cap. Probably best qb we will play this season. Glad we don’t have to play him against. The last 15 years was enough.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Unless he goes pro there will be next year since I believe he is RS Junior.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:37 PM
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Look up the stats. DJ was better overall. Both had great games. Hartman had 1 td more in the air. Only stat he won.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 9:03 PM
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Dang. Didn’t realize.
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:40 PM
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Both QB's played extremely well. I hope our secondary improves. Hartman was dropping dimes in good coverage. Very accurate QB. What got me was their delayed handoff. We never adjusted to it
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Re: Sam Hartman
Sep 24, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Lot of confusion on my post apparently, wasnt comparing him to DJ who aued a great game. Just wanted to show some love to the competition I feel like Hartman battled to the last second and I respect it
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Hartman wasn't so great when facing cover2
Sep 24, 2022, 8:57 PM
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He should give Wes a handshake for making him look so good
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My hope is that Wes thought the DL would get more pressure.
Sep 24, 2022, 9:05 PM
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The DL had what, one or two sacks all game?
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Agreed. He’s going to play at the next level.***
Sep 24, 2022, 9:34 PM
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