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Rival Killer [2868]
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Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 3:21 PM
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And it seems strange that I cannot remember it being nearly this bad. I even can recall flying into Bangalore, India and seeing myself on the monitor being infrared scanned for a fever. Were we more risk tolerant way back then?
Really curious why this is being seen as so much worse? And H1N1 affected the young worse than the old, IIRC.
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Head Coach [931]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 3:26 PM
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Did not occur during Election Year
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TigerNet Elite [77576]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 3:28 PM
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and the media-approved Party is not in the White House.
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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The big question is how many people have
Mar 12, 2020, 3:44 PM
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been tested. Even Trump’s guy at all on the news conferences is complaining about the lack of testing. It was reported on Tuesday that only “8” official Coronavirus tests were done in the US on Tuesday. Really, 8?
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Oculus Spirit [43144]
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yes it is a fact that only 8 people have been tested
Mar 12, 2020, 4:26 PM
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someone was saying that it might have been 9, but then the truth came out and only 8 people were tested.
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Campus Hero [13254]
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Re: The big question is how many people have
Mar 13, 2020, 2:03 AM
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Fouci said all requirements imposed by FDA for CV tests was waved as of today. They knew our test kits were limited but our use has been under utilized and production has caught up with demand.
Infection isnt the rampant spike anticipated by FDA 3 days ago.
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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The big question is how many people have
Mar 12, 2020, 3:44 PM
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been tested. Even Trump’s guy at all on the news conferences is complaining about the lack of testing. It was reported on Tuesday that only “8” official Coronavirus tests were done in the US on Tuesday. Really, 8?
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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The big question is how many people have
Mar 12, 2020, 3:44 PM
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been tested. Even Trump’s guy at all on the news conferences is complaining about the lack of testing. It was reported on Tuesday that only “8” official Coronavirus tests were done in the US on Tuesday. Really, 8?
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Orange Beast [6535]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 4:46 PM
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This. Should scare everyone that the media is this powerful.
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Clemson Icon [24158]
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Now explain the dozens of other countries
Mar 12, 2020, 3:32 PM
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or are they in on the Democrat conspiracy, too?
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All-In [34487]
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dummies gotta dummy***
Mar 12, 2020, 3:34 PM
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: dummies gotta dummy***
Mar 12, 2020, 4:22 PM
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Same question for you dummy.
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TigerNet Elite [77576]
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Explain what?
Mar 12, 2020, 3:48 PM
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There are over 200 countries on Earth. So yes, there are dozens of them. Mankind created them. It’s not clear what explanation you are looking for the dozens of countries.
I’m not saying you’re being deliberately obtuse, but how many countries do you think the flu is in? How many people to you think have died in those countries from the flu. What the OP is pointing out is the difference in hysteria and the political climate from a non-neutral media that has been constantly attacking the President from all sides non-stop for three years.
But you’re sure politics has nothing to do with it. Interesting.
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Paw Warrior [5074]
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Re: Explain what?
Mar 12, 2020, 5:58 PM
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He was clearly referencing the fact that dozens of other countries are taking similar and in some cases even more severe steps than the US.
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Clemson Icon [24064]
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Actual numbers prove H1N! was much worse
Mar 12, 2020, 4:55 PM
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Yet the Media & DemoNcrats didn't need PANIC to push their agenda,They had their Puppet in office then, Shyt, why else would they try to pad the bill with pork, including a a billion to re- fund their abortion clinics ? LOL
Coronavirus COVID-19
WORLDWIDE
127,863 confirmed cases
4718 deaths
68,310 recovered
USA
1218 confirmed cases
39 deaths
H1N1 virus 2009
USA
60.8 million confirmed cases
12,469 deaths
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Campus Hero [13254]
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Re: Actual numbers prove H1N! was much worse
Mar 13, 2020, 2:33 AM
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BS! Highest death toll was 168, and it is dropping. Plus the infected rate is dropping.
Italy has the oldest population of any european country with an average of 65+. Do yes, i will bite! These scare tactics to drive the media agenda and fear-mongering to get clicks.
Health person should know Fouci and he clearly stated that he expects the sharp spikes to dome and as mitigation and education throttles our nation, we expect fully that initial attention will have served us well.
Obviously not adjusting was wrong but over-reaction will be worse. Its going to be like the evacuation of the scariest hurricane in the world that never hit so next time people didn't respond and the death toll was substantially worse.
Im not buying this fear bait agenda!
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Campus Hero [13254]
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Re: Now explain the dozens of other countries
Mar 13, 2020, 2:13 AM
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Average age of italy is 65, hitting the target age of more critical. China is socialists where elderly dont get same care as young. Big article about social healthcare in China and how it has affected the world since the Swine flu, bird flu, H1N1, H1N5, Mers flu, etc.
Billion population and need to feed them creates a huge infection rate in a socialistic society as opposed to capitalism in Westernized country. Just the facts!
Huge knee-jerk reaction. Us will be much better due to acknowledging, mitigation, and better healthcare! We were hit by an adult daycare initially that resulted in half the deaths, skewed our numbers.
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Campus Hero [13254]
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Athletic Dir [1163]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 3:27 PM
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It was just as bad but it wasn’t mentioned one billion plus times in the media in a three month span. Confirmation bias is a dangerous thing propagated by the media. Builds momentum. Earns the media a lot of advertising dollars. I’m not trivializing the effects of the virus but it’s not anything to create hysteria.
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Top TigerNet [30014]
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It did spread to the USA or Europe as much
Mar 12, 2020, 3:38 PM
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So western media did not cover it
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Rival Killer [2868]
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Re: It did spread to the USA or Europe as much
Mar 12, 2020, 4:25 PM
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i assume you meant to say it did NOT spread to USA or Europe as much...
According to this timeline from the CDC, the first human infection of H1N1 was in California, April 15 2009.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html
April 15
First human infection with new influenza A H1N1 virus detected in California.
June 11
The World Health Organization (WHO) declared a pandemic and raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to phase 6, which means the virus was spreading to other parts of the world.
CDC held its first press conference with former CDC Director Thomas Frieden, MD, MPH. The press conference had 2,355 participants.
June 25
CDC estimated at least 1 million cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza had occurred in the United States.
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm
These final estimates were that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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CDC USA numbers for the H1N1 from April 2009 to April 2010
Mar 12, 2020, 3:51 PM
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Total Infected: 60.8 Million
Total Hospitalizations: 274,304
Total Deaths:12,469
These are just the USA numbers - a bit staggering aren't they. Yet I don't recall any major events or the fear mongering for H1N1 being anywhere close to what is being put forth on this relatively and comparatively small COVID-19 outbreak in the USA.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21342903 PubMed comprises more than 30 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full-text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites. PubMed comprises more than 30 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full-text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.
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Paw Warrior [4913]
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Re: CDC USA numbers for the H1N1 from April 2009 to April 2010
Mar 12, 2020, 4:08 PM
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If you do the math on the statistics you presented you will have your answer. H1N1 killed .02 percent of the people that got it. This thing is killing 2-3% which is literally 100 times more fatal.
Also H1N1 infected 20% of the then US population of roughly 300 million.
Many believe COVID-19 will eventually infect 50% or more of the population as its R factor (spread rate) is higher. If 50% of the US gets it and only 1% die it will kill a million people.
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Clemson Icon [26538]
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Yes, but the young cannot get coronavirus.
Mar 12, 2020, 4:24 PM
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Therefore, the death rate will be higher percentage wise due to the demographics that can get it. Plus, the coronavirus has such little effect on healthy people that majority of the wont realize they have it versus the regular flu/cold. Stats can be misleading sometimes.
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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So what you're saying is that COVID-19 is so bad we need
Mar 12, 2020, 4:24 PM
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to shut down any potential gathering place where the public can spread this dreaded disease. I guess that will include shopping centers, grocery stores, office buildings, manufacturing plants etc...
I'm going to go out on a limb here - these predictions of 150 million infections with a million dead in the USA won't happen.
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Oculus Spirit [43144]
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China will have half a billion infected
Mar 12, 2020, 4:30 PM
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but they are at about 20 a day so it might take awhile after 1000's per day just a month ago
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Paw Warrior [4913]
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Re: So what you're saying is that COVID-19 is so bad we need
Mar 12, 2020, 4:31 PM
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I hope you are right. But young people can carry it and there are a lot of otherwise healthy people with asthma or cancer that will die from it. Not to mention killing older folks like both my parents. This is a lot more dangerous for those people and I got one think it’s right to do our best to slow it down. In reality that’s all they’re trying to do. In Italy people were sent home to die because they didn’t have enough ventilators.
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National Champion [7564]
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: curious, is 50% of China going to get? ***
Mar 12, 2020, 4:31 PM
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Has already peaked in China and they are recovering from it.
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Oculus Spirit [43144]
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Re: CDC USA numbers for the H1N1 from April 2009 to April 2010
Mar 12, 2020, 6:24 PM
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Killing 2-3% of those diagnosed. How many have not been diagnosed? Statistics are being manipulated by both sides of the argument. That's the funny thing about stats, you can make them say what you want.
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Clemson Conqueror [11453]
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Re: CDC USA numbers for the H1N1 from April 2009 to April 2010
Mar 12, 2020, 11:09 PM
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They were discussing the Spanish Flu when making the 2.7% reference. Swine flu happened in 2009, not 1917. If you read the rest of the article, they state H1N1 has a mortality rate of 0.02%.
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Orange Beast [6201]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 4:22 PM
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Only way DEMS have a remote and i mean remote chance at the white house...
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 4:56 PM
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Take off your orange colored glasses (colored the color of Clemson and your president) bro.
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CU Guru [1944]
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 13, 2020, 4:55 AM
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He’s your president, too.
#TRUMP2020
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Re: Trying to remember H1N1
Mar 12, 2020, 5:05 PM
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The coverage of it is political driven.
The video Project Veritas had 2 weeks ago stating the ABC network agenda for Trump coverage will make you doubt anything that comes out of their mouth. They have thrown so much at him and struck out on it all. Their deep in the playbook now
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