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All-TigerNet [13255]
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Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 8:08 PM
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that is a favorite to win their game.
Even Vegas knows...
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 8:10 PM
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Knows what?
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 8:10 PM
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To predict the opposite of Judge Keller®
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Link to my prediction?***
Mar 14, 2021, 8:12 PM
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So you are you predicting a Rutgers Victory?
Mar 14, 2021, 8:13 PM
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I hope so.
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Your internet service must be slow at the Richland county jail
Mar 15, 2021, 7:11 AM
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My guess is Runner
Mar 15, 2021, 8:02 AM
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Did not run fast enough - at least not as fast as the deputy
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Jersey Jerker...***
Mar 15, 2021, 11:30 AM
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I saw these two hoops powerhouses square off in the 1999 NIT
Mar 15, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Was consulting on a project in Philadelphia and made the trip up to NJ to take in the 2nd rd experience.
I know everyone is jealous. Wikipedia says Clemson won. I can't remember so if the internets says Clemson won then so be it.
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 9:48 PM
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Are you too stupid to post it once?
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He probably went to Rutgers, so yes.***
Mar 15, 2021, 10:17 PM
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You sure are a great fan.***
Mar 14, 2021, 8:12 PM
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I was a great fan
Mar 14, 2021, 8:14 PM
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till they cancelled Men's Track and XC. Now I'm just bitter.
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Re: I was a great fan
Mar 14, 2021, 8:18 PM
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till they cancelled Men's Track and XC. Now I'm just bitter.
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Re: I was a great fan
Mar 14, 2021, 8:26 PM
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Ima guessing you got beat up a lot as a kid.
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No, the opposite.
Mar 14, 2021, 8:49 PM
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I'm gonna be a prick and call things the way they really are.
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Well that’s understandable
Mar 14, 2021, 9:10 PM
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but what does basketball have to do with that?
Basketball helped support/pay for those sports all those years.
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Re: I was a great fan
Mar 14, 2021, 10:14 PM
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till they cancelled Men's Track and XC. Now I'm just bitter.
Are you a party in the lawsuit?
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Re: I was a great fan
Mar 15, 2021, 7:36 AM
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If I can get past the cancellations of field hockey and swimming you can get beyond being bitter.
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Re: I was a great fan
Mar 15, 2021, 11:19 AM
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You do you.
You have no idea my involvement and/or history in the sport and my history with cancellations of other programs and my proximity to them at the time.
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Only 1 pt. Probably attributed to their win over
Mar 14, 2021, 8:26 PM
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1 seed Illinois. This game will be a battle.
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 8:30 PM
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 14, 2021, 8:51 PM
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^^^ This guy gets it ^^^^
It's our best chance.
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This kind of crap gets repeated here over and over.
Mar 14, 2021, 9:09 PM
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And it isn’t true.
Which games did we lose this year that we were supposed to win?
Miami was our only loss this year to a team that wasn’t a quad 1 team. So there’s one, out of 23 games we played this year.
We beat 8 teams in this year’s NCAA Tournament.
Answer me. Which games other than Miami did we lose this year that we were supposed to win?
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Only other ‘upset’ was GaTech
Mar 14, 2021, 9:43 PM
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Was favored by 2 over GT. Lost by 18. Besides GT and Miami, all other losses we were underdogs per Vegas.
Surprised to see we were favored by 8 over Miami. Didn’t think spread was that big
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Re: Only other ‘upset’ was GaTech
Mar 15, 2021, 7:39 AM
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Clearly the oddsmakers hadn't seen Alvarado play much.
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You can't be serious.
Mar 15, 2021, 1:48 PM
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Earlier, you said:
we seem to manage to lose the ones we’re expected to win.
I asked which games this year we were expected to win, other than the Miami game in the ACC Tournament.
A post above showed that the Georgia Tech game in Atlanta was the only other game this year we were favored to win and lost. So that's two games out of 23 which we could reasonably expect to win and didn't.
Yet you're completely ignoring all of that, and instead focusing on the games YOU thought we should've won. Seriously? And you completely ignore the games we weren't supposed to win, but did win.
Based on your post, you are saying that there are three more games aside from Miami that we should've won that we did not (Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Duke). That would make us 19-4 overall, with a conference record of 13-3.
In your scenario, we would be regular season ACC champions by a wide margin, and probably gotten us at least a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Possibly even a 1 seed.
That's a pretty ridiculous standard you set for us this year. But why stop there? Why not also complain about the 4 other losses? We should be undefeated, right? We're Clemson and we should strive for "best is the standard." We should be undefeated just like Gonzaga, and the overall #1 seed in the tournament. Right?!?
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Re: You can't be serious.
Mar 15, 2021, 2:26 PM
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Your original statement was that we seem to lose the games we are supposed to win.
Mar 15, 2021, 4:56 PM
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As if it’s an ongoing problem with our team.
And now that has morphed into your own ambiguous definition of who you think we are supposed to beat. And now you’re also focusing on several games that we didn’t just lose, but lost by more than you find acceptable.
Surely you can understand my confusion when your definition changed. If you want to talk about games where you feel we should’ve played better, that’s perfectly reasonable and I agree with all of your examples. But that’s not what you said. At all.
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Re: This kind of crap gets repeated here over and over.
Mar 14, 2021, 9:59 PM
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Miami GT (first game). Not favored by Vegas, but we should beaten Syracuse.
But, I'm not just talking about just this year. And, I'm not speaking to our season. We had a good season. This goes back to years of frustration with our performance in Tournaments.
- We've gone (0-1) in the ACC tournament 14x in the last 20 years. 14/20. - Only 1x (2008) have we won 2 games in the ACC tournament. Once.....in a 20 year period. - We've gone (0-1) 6 of the 11 times we've been to the NCAA Tournament - We've gone (0-1) 7 of the 17 times we've been to the NIT
Just once I'd like to see us win the ACC Tournament, as at least 8 other teams have (at least 1x) in the last 20 years.
UNC Duke FSU Maryland Miami UVA GT ND
For the tournament. Making the Elite 8 would be a dream, but we've gone (0-1) 6 of the 11 times we've been there before. SO I'm just hoping for a miracle win in the first round.
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Hah good one. “Win the ACC tournament”***
Mar 14, 2021, 10:04 PM
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Re: Hah good one. “Win the ACC tournament”***
Mar 14, 2021, 10:23 PM
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I mean, Miami, FSU, GT & ND have done it in the last 8 years...
Even getting to the Finals would be nice. We've done that just 2x since 1954.
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Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 15, 2021, 1:50 PM
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Clemson, something Purnell, Barnes, and Ellis didn't have. So while I share your frustration about postseason failures at Clemson, I don't think it's fair to lump Brownell in as it pertains to the Big Dance.
He has struggled in the ACC Tournament, and that's one of the biggest things I feel he needs to improve upon.
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Re: Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 15, 2021, 2:01 PM
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Isn't he 3-3?
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Re: Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 15, 2021, 4:30 PM
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2-2.
0-1 in 2011, and 2-1 in 2018.
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Re: Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 15, 2021, 4:32 PM
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He's 3-2. 1-1 in 2011 and 2-1 in 2018. I was thinking he had already been to 3 tourneys, which would be 3 losses. But he's only been to 2.
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Re: Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 16, 2021, 10:25 AM
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Correct, I overlooked the play-in game which we won (vs UAB).
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Re: Brad has a winning record in the NCAA Tournament at
Mar 22, 2021, 10:35 AM
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We can make that 3-3 now...
womp. womp.
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can you give a link to the early lines please
Mar 14, 2021, 8:41 PM
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not sure I believe you
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haha... thanks... I hadn't opened the article yet***
Mar 14, 2021, 9:05 PM
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Re: Rutgers is the only lower seed in the entire first round
Mar 15, 2021, 7:53 AM
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This is absolutely mind boggling how we're not at least a 6-8 pt favorite. We dropped to a lower seed, Rutgers about right. They have lost 11 games.
We've out recruited them the last 4 years. There basketball history is NIT (where we beat them). Compared to Rutgers we're a blue blood in basketball.
Even espn winners/losers mention our draw and favorability. We should win by 20 points. About like wake Forest game. It's a lock.
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Clemson generally plays like $#!7 away from Littlejohn...
Mar 15, 2021, 9:12 AM
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so I'd have Rutgers favored too.
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Clemson is 3-1 in neutral games***
Mar 15, 2021, 9:36 AM
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Those 3 wins were all in the early part of the season
Mar 15, 2021, 10:34 AM
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The team is 2 - 5 away from Littlejohn since beating Bama in mid-December
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Is that unique to Clemson?
Mar 15, 2021, 11:32 AM
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I think a lot of teams struggle to win conference road games.
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Losing is one thing...
Mar 15, 2021, 11:38 AM
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but Clemson got embarrassed and blow-out by at Georgia Tech, FSU and Duke.
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Re: Those 3 wins were all in the early part of the season
Mar 15, 2021, 11:44 AM
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Funny, FSU was 3-4 away from Tally. GT was 3-5. Cuse was 2-6. VT was 3-3.
Only UVA and ironically NC State were above .500 on the road.
If you hold serve at home and then win more than you lose on the road, you win the ACC season.
Our road losses were to stronger teams. VT, FSU, Cuse, GT ... and the weakest was Duke. We split the decisions betwenn FSU, Cuse, and GT. That is darn good.
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Kenpom has Rutgers rated about 2 points better
Mar 15, 2021, 11:30 AM
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than Clemson. His ratings really, really like the Big Ten in general with B1G teams sitting at 2, 3, 5, 7, 10, and 13. The highest rated ACC team is UVA at 11. FSU (15) is the only other ACC team to crack his top 25.
I guess the big question here will be whether or not the B1G is really that good as a league.
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Re: Kenpom has Rutgers rated about 2 points better
Mar 15, 2021, 12:37 PM
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CBS selection show called us Paper Tigers and picked Rutgers. Said we were way too inconsistent shooting to be a threat to anyone. They laughed at Clemson being a 7 seed.
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That makes no sense at all
Mar 15, 2021, 8:14 PM
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An inconsistent shooting team might not be a threat to go deep in the tournament, but is absolutely a threat in an individual game.
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