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Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:10 PM
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2 top 5 wins, a win in chapel Hill, on the bubble last 5 games. We beat FSU 18 wins will do it. #packthejohn
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 PM
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It has been tough with the injuries and youth but looks like they are turning the corner for good.
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:15 PM
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All they have to do to make the NIT is beat GTX2 and BC. To make NCAAs, you gotta pray we beat FSU and win a ACCT game in addition to that.
Our best chance is win out and be 19-12. You win game 2 of acct youre up to a top 7 seed. A tiger can only hope
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:29 PM
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I think we can make the NCAA's even with a loss to FSU if we win out otherwise and get two wins in the ACCT
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:31 PM
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The win over FSU has you on the bubble with 17 wins. It's hard to ignore when you beat 3 likely top seeds
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 11:58 PM
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What I hate about being a Clemson basketball fan is how little our “fans” understand basketball. With today’s win we have an 84 NET and a 90 RPI. We’re 13-12. Are you actually predicting we’ll finish 9-1?
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 6:32 PM
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The prognosticators never get us right. Eff 'em
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You are apparently unaware of Rick Barnes
Feb 15, 2020, 6:40 PM
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first team.
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That was a good coaching job by Barnes for sure, but
Feb 15, 2020, 11:35 PM
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the preseason belief that it could be the worst team in ACC history was a bit dramatic. Not to take anything away from Rick, but that team had two future NBA players on it. Not as lacking in talent as some believed.
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Re: That was a good coaching job by Barnes for sure, but
Feb 15, 2020, 11:47 PM
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###?
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In the preseason, no one knew about Buckner
Feb 16, 2020, 7:26 AM
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he was not some top prospect. The returnees were Merle Code, Bill Hardin, Bruce Martin, Andy Kelly, Rayfield Ragland and Gray coming off a heart attack.
Gray may have played in the NBA but he only played 7 games for that team, he flunked out of school.
That's the single greatest coaching job in Clemson history, and preseason, pretty obvious why many viewed it as they did
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you Are correct!
Feb 16, 2020, 7:31 AM
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Especially in the era of ACC great teams.
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 7:24 PM
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You show a lack of history of Clemson basketball. Curious where you read that this was "Preseason Worst team...."....you remember the Clemson USC basketball game in the ACC tournament? Any clue how bad that team was? Laughable!
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 8:01 PM
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Some people said this team could be the worst in the preseason. As bad as less then 6 wins.
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Who said less than 6 wins?
Feb 15, 2020, 8:06 PM
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Barnes first team was declared by media far and wide to be the worst team in ACC history. They had 6'5, 190lb Andy Kelly as the PF playing against Rasheed Wallace. The best player Devin Gray had a heart attack then flunked out of school. That team, known as the slab 5, shocked people, and laid the foundation for 3 straight tourneys and a Sweet 16
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It was a good coaching job that year by Barnes
Feb 16, 2020, 12:47 AM
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but that team wasn’t going to be anywhere close to the worst ACC team ever, and the team’s performance that year wasn’t nearly as amazing as people sometimes make it out to be.
The legacy of that team is sort of like the story that an old fisherman tells, where the fish he caught keeps getting bigger and bigger as the years go by.
Again, great coaching job that year, but that team was barely .500 overall and was 5-11 in the ACC (7th out of 9 teams).
That team was 1-9 against ranked opponents. That lone ranked win was over Duke, who was only ranked because we caught them early in what was their worst season in recent memory. Duke finished that year 13-18 overall, and 2-14 in the ACC.
Of the 9 losses to ranked teams, we lost by an average of 17 points.
There were two games that year where we scored under 40 points.
If not for a super weak non-conference slate that year (as was customary for Clemson in those days) and a much easier path to the NIT (all it required then was a .500 overall record), we wouldn’t have made the NIT.
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 15, 2020, 11:47 PM
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Not even remotely close. Please post any reference besides this thread that asserted that.
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Re: Preseason Worst team in Clemson basketball history
Feb 16, 2020, 7:27 AM
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Honestly I can recall some discussion on here towards the end of last season about how terribly bad this year’s team was going to be, but that was before any of the transfers came on board. After the solid group of transfers came, I believe most prognosticators were predicting a finish somewhere around 9-11 in the conference, no where near “worst team in history” status.
This appears to be another example of the extreme positive hyperbole that occurs on the board after a win, but I’m sure it will be offset by the extreme negativity after the next loss!
This was a huge win to secure Brownell’s seat for next season. It took a bit too long for this season, but things might be starting to click for this team. Barring a complete collapse, I will stop posting “time for a change” posts until at least mid-season next year!
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