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My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.
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My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:50 AM

As fans we want coaches to be honest and tell us what they really think rather than use coachspeak and give non-substantive answers to tough questions.

When they do give open and honest answers, we blast them for their frankness and wish they were more nuanced in their responses.

And, that is true of fans at every school, not just Clemson.

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+1

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:51 AM

When a coach is winning, he can do no wrong. When he is losing, he can do no right.

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Re: +1

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:53 AM

There is very little "in between" with some people.

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And in others, there's very little in between

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Oct 31, 2023, 2:54 PM

the ears.

It's knowing the difference that sets one apart.

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Re: +1

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Oct 31, 2023, 10:12 AM [ in reply to +1 ]

The problem is that Dabo has not made the tough admission as to why he is not winning. I think if he would acknowledge the problems, everyone would be more patient. Then again, I guess it would be tough for him to say ,I hired my buddies and I totally screwed up on NIL and portal

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:16 PM


The problem is that Dabo has not made the tough admission as to why he is not winning. I think if he would acknowledge the problems, everyone would be more patient. Then again, I guess it would be tough for him to say ,I hired my buddies and I totally screwed up on NIL and portal


Dabo doesn't have to tell us anything like you don't have to air your dirty laundry on TNet. We'll see what he thinks is/was the problem when the time is right.

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Nov 1, 2023, 11:18 AM

Sure he does. Ask Hatfield, Bowden, West, and a litany of other coaches who had to answer to boosters and alumni. The power belongs to the people. Dabo has definitely made people think about how much they donate to the program. Donations drop and coaches get fired quickly. I have reined in my donation amount to reflect my displeasure. One booster at a time, that is where coaches are hired and fired.

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Nov 1, 2023, 11:20 AM

Not to mention I’ve listed my tickets on stub hub. That’s $2k plus per game over six weekends that isn’t being infused into the Clemson community/economy. Sure, it’s barely a drop in the bucket. Multiply that as boosters start to follow suit. Before you know it, trustees start to panic.

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Nov 1, 2023, 5:07 PM

Well if your tickets sold on Stubhub the $ still flowed in, and we got upgraded fans to boot!

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That's a selfish want...

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Re: +1 ]

to satisfy your sense of entitlement and stroke your ego.




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This must be one of the dumbest thoughts of the day

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:55 PM [ in reply to Re: +1 ]

When a team is losing, a coach giving real reasons why would be blasted as making excuses.

Dabo will not throw players or coaches under the bus, esp during the season.

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Wait.

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Nov 1, 2023, 5:34 AM

What???

You don’t think he should come out and say “I’m gonna fire my WR and OL coaches at the end of the season” …
just so the stupid so-called fans can feel better about themselves??

C’Mon man!!!!

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The lack of maturity and leadership is concerning

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Oct 31, 2023, 3:46 PM [ in reply to Re: +1 ]

He used to be so hungry and humble and had something to prove. Now he’s got a chip on his shoulder for the fan base. Let’s face it. The nepotism hires killed us.

Replacing one of the best DC’s in college with an analyst that has never called a live game .. after the offense had been on a
Downward spiral for YEARS? The stubbornness to make changes to the offense even when recruiting is falling off..

Venables was the reason for our consistency. I don’t care what you guys say statistically. Situationally he was one of the best we’ve ever seen. He made our players look even better. Challenged them hard with a complex scheme.

Dabo going to keep tinkering with the offense, defense is inconsistent. We go into 3 man fronts and make our guys cover for way too long. It’s obvious stuff. Hard to watch. Maybe I’ll watch again for the coot game. Should be a real fun chit show

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"It's so obvious!"

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Nov 1, 2023, 4:19 PM

I love this line of thought. Wanna share your offseason posts fretting about having a new PK? That was the one single glaring unknown on our roster but experts like you were all position coaches, WRs, O-line, Wes, friends and family, yada yada yada, right?. Hardly a peep about PK before the Duke game.

Your part about Wes still being unqualified considering how well our D has played this season with an O that can't eat up clock says all I need to know about the value of your insights.

Sorry to hear you won't be taking in any Tigers games until SCar. Sounds about right for some on here.

Go Tigers!

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Re: +1


Nov 1, 2023, 7:05 AM [ in reply to Re: +1 ]

You want Dabo to say that the reason we are playing bad is because of our OL coach sucks? We don't need to know the inside workings of the program. Either you trust Dabo to fix it or you don't.

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Nov 1, 2023, 4:02 PM [ in reply to Re: +1 ]

So if you think you know what the problems are, what difference does it make to you what Dabo says.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:52 AM

Sometimes a spirited response is needed. The coaches and players are working their butts off, and they hear the stuff that is said. I'm quite sure they get tired of hearing it.
Go Tigers!!!

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Lets do our talking on the field!***

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:59 AM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

Hopefully that translates on to the field Saturday. THIS TEAM IS NEEDING A BIG WIN IN THE WORST WAY!!!

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:59 AM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

Pig® said:

Sometimes a spirited response is needed. The coaches and players are working their butts off, and they hear the stuff that is said. I'm quite sure they get tired of hearing it.
Go Tigers!!!




That fantastic. Think we can get him to translate a "spirited response" into a "spirited offense"?

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Nov 1, 2023, 5:38 AM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

No doubt sometimes a spirited response is needed but it should have been more about Clemson football and less about how Dabo got to where he is. Is that all you have to respond with? Hell, I have two degrees, would that qualify me as Head Coach at CU?

Man up Coach!

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.


Nov 1, 2023, 6:26 AM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

All they have to do is win games to not hear it.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Nov 1, 2023, 4:41 PM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

Work? One can work real hard and not accomplish anything...
Experience... you can 1 year of experience, not grow, and in 20 years, still have 1 year of experience, just 20 times...

Coaches are paid to WIN... not work hard busting their butts ...

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Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:55 AM

Especially for someone who makes eight figures a year at a prominent university and football program.

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Re: Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:57 AM

I repeat... some people...

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Re: Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:03 AM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]

“Insulting fans” ??????

If Tyler’s feelings are hurt he shouldn’t be insulting someone who has done a helluva “at a prominent University and football program”.

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Yes, calling a Clemson fan who calls into your radio show a smart @$$

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:32 AM

and proceeding to go on a five minute rant which included speaking down to him like a child is insulting.

Maybe you missed it, but Dabo also took another jab at Clemson fans (just as he did a couple of weeks ago).

I don’t know if Tyler’s feeling were hurt, but that’s beside the point. What Dabo said was insulting regardless.

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You dont know that hes a Clemson fan or a troll

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:20 PM

USuCk fan. Either way, Dabo fired back at the rudeness of the caller and I respect that. Wish more politicians and CEOs would do the same.

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Re: Yes, calling a Clemson fan who calls into your radio show a smart @$$

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Oct 31, 2023, 4:53 PM [ in reply to Yes, calling a Clemson fan who calls into your radio show a smart @$$ ]

I'm quite sure Dabo WAS trying to insult the a$$ h0le. He was much more reserved than I would have been.

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Oct 31, 2023, 1:00 PM [ in reply to Re: Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]


“Insulting fans” ??????

If Tyler’s feelings are hurt he shouldn’t be insulting someone who has done a helluva “at a prominent University and football program”.


What?? He didn’t insult Dabo. Give me a #### break. Dabo makes 11 million. He has NEVER had to answer a tough question at any of his press conferences because no one has the nads to ask him anything but softball questions. Now that someone has asked him a tough question, he freaks out and acts like a child about it. He’s losing because he is being exposed as a head coach that makes bad hires and is too stubborn to change his ways. He got lucky with Venables and Tony. They are gone now and Dabo is sinking the ship.

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Re: Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:14 AM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]


Especially for someone who makes eight figures a year at a prominent university and football program.




Do you ever not have an ignorant opinion? This Tyler guy got what he asked for and was called exactly what he is. a smarta$$

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Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:33 AM

Last night wasn’t a good one for Dabo. He needs to publicly apologize and move forward, vowing to control his emotions better in the future.

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Re: Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:36 AM

He really doesn’t though

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Re: Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:37 AM

To clarify, love the anger and the fire. That’s old school motivated Dabo that has been missing. Glad to see him fired up, and hope it translates to the team

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Re: Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior.


Oct 31, 2023, 2:59 PM [ in reply to Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior. ]

How about you hold your breath until that happens.

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Re: Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior.


Nov 1, 2023, 4:06 PM [ in reply to Its incredible that youre defending our coachs behavior. ]

No he doesn’t.

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Re: Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:18 AM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]

Stupid questions deserve what they get regardless of what they make. Put yourself in his shoes. Y’all act like he held out for more money. Think he held off on more money to be able to pay assistants more.

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I have put myself in his shoes.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:35 AM

Dabo had a right to be annoyed, but with great power comes great responsibility. Dabo overreacted.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]

What profanity and what name calling

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Dabo called him a smart @ss, a child, and a bad fan.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:36 AM

Several other instances where he used profanity as well.

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Re: Dabo called him a smart @ss, a child, and a bad fan.

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Nov 1, 2023, 7:35 AM

The good book mentions the word ###. So there's that. Me thinks you are the same sort of ###, and I enjoy TD'n you at every opportunity. ###

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Agreed. It's a bad look. End of story.

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Oct 31, 2023, 2:52 PM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]

The stuff that makes ADs and BoT's cringe.

Even if the guy goaded him into it or just flat "had it coming," you never attack the questioner.

Ever.

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Oct 31, 2023, 2:58 PM [ in reply to Honesty which includes insulting fans with profanity and name calling isnt okay ]

Is the salary comment pre-programmed in your computer, or do you have to type it every time you post?

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:57 AM

I fully support Dabo, he is 100% right. Tyler is a whiner.

I love the fact that when Tyler called Dabo arrogant Dabo showed that he’s not arrogant. If he was arrogant, he would’ve brushed the comment aside and moved on. Instead he hit it Tyler head on.

We are fortunate to have Dabo as a head coach.

Let’s go tigers. Let’s beat the Irish.

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He showed that he's not arrogant?


Oct 31, 2023, 9:04 AM

huh?

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:57 AM

Possibly. But very few coaches have the payout that he does.....

He was paid based on performance. His performance has fallen through the floor. Hiring "experimental" coaches failed.

Now, Dabo's not being treated like the CEO - he's being treated like any sales rep in the nation. If he doesn't perform EVERY YEAR, not the just certain ones, he's going to be called out on it.

He doesn't want the noise/smoke that comes along with "1 down year", then he picked the wrong profession.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:01 AM

Can't argue with that. Well said.
We all expect better, but when bad hires are made you have to realize that. I expect this "experiment" will be trashed after the season.
Go Tigers!!!

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:44 PM [ in reply to Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler. ]

Very few people in the world are paid based on their current performance.

People are either paid on their past performance or the forecast of their future performance.

Dabo's contract was written with both of those aspects in mind.

If Dabo continues to produce losing seasons, then his recent poor performance and lower expectations for the future will warrant reducing his contract or terminating it.

Dabo didn't get a mid-season massive raise when he was sitting at 8-0 in 2011.

Dabo didn't get a contract reduction when Clemson took a step back in 2014 either.

The fact that people are becoming hung up on paying Dabo's salary while Clemson is 4-4 are just looking for something to stomp their feet about.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 8:58 AM

I agree but Dabo was not being honest. If he was being honest, he would have said, "Yes, we have not had a great year and I probably have not earned my salary this year, but I am working on getting it corrected. I will earn my money soon by making the necessary corrections."

Dabo has earned some grace, but he also needs to stop gaslighting the fan base. He is and has been a great coach. He will be great again in the future, but I don't like to see this version of Dabo.

Just my opinion.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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I agree but Dabo was not being honest. If he was being honest, he would have said, "Yes, we have not had a great year and I probably have not earned my salary this year, but I am working on getting it corrected. I will earn my money soon by making the necessary corrections."

Dabo has earned some grace, but he also needs to stop gaslighting the fan base. He is and has been a great coach. He will be great again in the future, but I don't like to see this version of Dabo.

Just my opinion.



This is exactly how I feel. The indignation at early criticism this season wasn’t a good look. Has nothing to do with his pay. Dabo of 2010 wasn’t so thin skinned. Anyone that thinks we need another coach should be tuned out. However, it isn’t that much of an ask for some honest self reflection.

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Nov 1, 2023, 4:25 PM

"Quacking Ducks" anyone? That was Dabo in 2010 calling out the same know-it-all whiners today that he had to endure then.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:08 AM

Bunch of whiners on this board.

Dabo is 4-4 with a few losses in OT.

Yes, it all comes back to him, but I think we all know the structural changes needed can’t be made during the season. Should he have made some changes over the past two years yes. He didn’t.

I believe he will make the necessary changes after this season and turn things around.

Let’s go tigers. Let’s beat the Irish.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:30 AM

Yeaaaa. Someone with a Brain

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:11 AM

Brett - I don’t disagree with your premise, but I think Dabo’s execution is suspect. If we are to celebrate the candidness, honesty, and transparency he displays when it suits him (ie firing off on Tyler), then we should expect the same at all times…not just been convenient. His pressers that are filled with Pollyanna comments during spring or after many disappointing games are not so honest, candid and transparent. Be consistent.

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That's the point I was trying to make.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:22 AM

1. We blast coaches when they give pollyanish and cream puff answers. We want them to be frank and honest.

2. When they are frank and honest, we blast them for being frank and honest.

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Re: That's the point I was trying to make.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:29 AM

He was not being honest. That is the problem.

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Re: That's the point I was trying to make.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:35 AM

What makes you think he wasn't being honest? I firmly believe that he thought that this could be one of his better teams and could make it to the CFP. Being wrong and not being honest are two different things that most people should understand.

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Well, he was way off wasnt he?

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:15 AM

Yea there is always a few in every fan base. Bret I’m sure you have dealt with a few on the FSU board in recent years.

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From as far back as the 80s.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:31 AM

Bobby was consistently winning 8 or 9 games a year, but lost 5 or 6 in a row to Florida. Fans were saying he couldn't get the job done. There was talk that FSU should fire him and go hire the Duke coach, Steve Spurrier.

He won the 93 national championship. By 96 or 97 fans were saying he was too old and it was time for him to retire. Every year a discussion was held on message boards, "Who should be the next FSU coach?"

After the 2000 national championship, Mark Richt left and went to UGA. Took a couple of key assistants with him. Bobby made some questionable hires (promoting his son to OC was the most questionable) that didn't work out. Bobby dug in his heels and kept those coaches on staff. That was the beginning of the end.

But, it took 3 or so years of declining performance for the fans to get really upset.

In today's world, fans are more impatient.

Watch, if LSU beats Bama this Saturday, some Bama fans will be saying it is time for Nick to retire and for Bama to hire Kirby Smart.

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Re: From as far back as the 80s.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:44 AM

Yep... you can count on it.

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Oct 31, 2023, 12:56 PM [ in reply to From as far back as the 80s. ]

Yeah Bama fans were already saying those things when they lost to Texas and 'barely' beat Arkansas (?). It's a shame.

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Nov 1, 2023, 7:44 AM [ in reply to From as far back as the 80s. ]

I will add...the Bamalama fans will want Coach Lance Thompson back as head recruiter too. I seriously doubt Kirby would oblige them!!! 🤣🤣

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:24 AM

You're right.

I read the transcript and what stood out to me is how much he believes in hard work, and a person's will to succeed. There's no doubt he believed that if he hired friends, and former players, regardless of coaching pedigree he could develop them into great coaches. That has obviously back-fired.

It may have taken a while to notice what many fans saw all along because he's so stubborn, but he's finally owning it. He created his own mess, and I think he'll get it fixed.

He's done some unconventional things in the past that have worked out, so I'm not shocked that he really thought he could do things his way and everything would go according to plan. He ain't perfect. Live and learn!

The best thing fans can do at this point is stay positive. Dabo doesn't sound like he's retiring, so that means he's probably going to clean house and embrace the transfer portal. Better days are ahead...at some point. :)

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:26 AM

Agreed. From what I can tell, it’s a pretty mixed bag when it comes to the perception of that call list night. Some say it’s embarrassing & others said it was justified. Even people from other fan bases on social media were standing up for CDS. I’m glad he’s fired up. I have a feeling there will be changes in the off season. Go Tigers!

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Listen, Dabo is losing control of his program and himself

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:35 AM

If I am the most winning coach in school history . . .

If I have won 2 National Championships in the last 10 years . . .

If I am making approximately 10 miilion dollars per year for my expertise . . .

IF I HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY PROGRAM AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO FIX IT . . .


then some random phone caller does not have any chance of getting under my skin and sending me off on a defensive, vulgar rant in which I directly insult a significant chunk of our fans - and the ones who pay my salary.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:40 AM

My thoughts:

Absolutely correct, Dabo.. the expectation is greater than the appreciation."
Has this been a disappointing year? Definitely.
Are fans frustrated? Definitely. Do changes need to be made, both coaching and players?
Definitely. Bring back the fire... Bring back the days of benching a player if they go rogue or keep dropping passes.
But…most disappointing is the attitude of some fans toward Dabo...to doubt his commitment and work ethic is unconscionable. To say he is full of pride and not earning his salary is disrespectful. To forget what he has done, not only for the school but in the lives of so many young men is unforgivable.
Dabo is trying to maintain the culture we are all so proud of at Clemson, while fighting the lack of loyalty NIL and the transfer portal bring.
Be careful, Clemson fans...an attitude like that will make him leave Clemson long before he would ever be asked to by the school..he is the best thing to happen too Clemson…ever.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 9:48 AM

Great 1st post, but believe me... you just made a lot of enemies and a lot of friends.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 3:06 PM

Totally agree. And 3tigrfans, don’t let those enemies run you off. Unfortunately they are a lot louder than the friends.

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Fanatical fans are definitely a part of every WINNING fanbase


Oct 31, 2023, 12:51 PM

which is where bandwagons come from.

A big part of winning is dealing with distractions, rhetoric, fanatics, that say the sky is falling. This has been a difficult season for the team and CDS, but part of winning is dealing with unruly sections of fans when things go downhill. It is part of the territory, everyone is out for blood it appears when it is only the fanatical ones who think they know it all and have no idea.

Coaching young guys with great talent cannot be easy. Life is happening, they are living, learning, and sometimes they are mature beyond their years and able to focus better. Sometimes you get a team that needs a lot of work, which is 2023

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Not nuanced.

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Oct 31, 2023, 2:41 PM

Also not innate. So it's not really Dabo's fault -- either he slept through media 101 or has forgotten it in the rush to make a bowl game.

But in media, whether a live show or a recorded interview, you never, ever, ever attack the questioner. Never. You either say "no comment" or set about answering the question.

I believe his question was whether Dabo is earning his money. He obfuscated a little with the Proverb crack (which was tacky) and was a little bit ranty in his take. But, the question was about the money and the team's 4-4 record.

A real pro would've just said :

"Hey, fair question, Tyler. I get that I make a lot of money to coach a game. And I'm grateful. I APPRECIATE (see, there's that word again) what being Clemson's head coach means. Don't take it for granted.

I get that the money brings EXPECTATIONS (again ... another favorite Dabo word) from a lot of different places, especially from the fans who help pay the program's way. They fund the schollys, they build facilities, they buy the tickets, pay for the tailgates, show up on game day.

I realize we're in a disappointing time right now. I think it's a little unfair to say it's all on me because of the money I make. I can't make the passes, hold on to the football, be both OC and DC and all that. But I also can't say it's fair to blame someone else, either. I'm the dude, I'm the guy. Buck stops with me."

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Re: Not nuanced.

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Nov 1, 2023, 4:56 PM


Also not innate. So it's not really Dabo's fault -- either he slept through media 101 or has forgotten it in the rush to make a bowl game.

But in media, whether a live show or a recorded interview, you never, ever, ever attack the questioner. Never. You either say "no comment" or set about answering the question.

I believe his question was whether Dabo is earning his money. He obfuscated a little with the Proverb crack (which was tacky) and was a little bit ranty in his take. But, the question was about the money and the team's 4-4 record.

A real pro would've just said :

"Hey, fair question, Tyler. I get that I make a lot of money to coach a game. And I'm grateful. I APPRECIATE (see, there's that word again) what being Clemson's head coach means. Don't take it for granted.

I get that the money brings EXPECTATIONS (again ... another favorite Dabo word) from a lot of different places, especially from the fans who help pay the program's way. They fund the schollys, they build facilities, they buy the tickets, pay for the tailgates, show up on game day.

I realize we're in a disappointing time right now. I think it's a little unfair to say it's all on me because of the money I make. I can't make the passes, hold on to the football, be both OC and DC and all that. But I also can't say it's fair to blame someone else, either. I'm the dude, I'm the guy. Buck stops with me."



He kind of did say all that, just more like “hey you stupid ### brat idiot fan, don’t you know I built this team, this town. I’ve never failed, I’m the greatest thing that’s ever happened to you and you should appreciate it”. Sounds like what an abusive 45 year old guy says to a 19-20 year old girlfriend they managed to fool

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Oct 31, 2023, 5:15 PM

Dabo is not frank or candid. There is no way he thought this team was championship caliber. He uses coachspeak more than most. The other day I said he lied, that was an exaggeration. He either wasn't candid or he doesn't know talent. I think it was lack of candor.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Nov 1, 2023, 5:19 AM

Life goes on.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.


Nov 1, 2023, 6:09 AM

It's not a matter of giving an open answer. I keep hearing that the caller attacked Dabo's integrity but all he did was quote Proverbs 16:18. Dabo then went into saying Clemson hadn't sniffed a championship in 35 years and spouted off his accomplishments, demonstrating the first part on the verse. In the process he called him a smartazz kid and was condescending about the young man's age. He followed that up by calling him an idiot today and saying that he gave him an Old Testament response which once again demonstrated the first part of the verse.

An open response is fine. Attacking fans is not, especially after he had a night to think about it.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.

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Nov 1, 2023, 6:19 AM

After reading some of the replies, I see people saying the caller attacked Dabo's work ethic. I didn't really take it that way but I understand how you could. Maybe Dabo did, but I still feel like there was no excuse for how he answered the question, especially when doubling down on things the morning after.

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Re: My reaction to Dabo's response to Tyler.


Nov 1, 2023, 8:09 PM

Maybe Tyler from Spartanburg lives comfortably with his parents. Maybe one day he will own his own vehicle. I rather stand with a self-made man that has given Clemson fans many years of great seasons. I support Dabo and Clemson ! Bring it on haters.FYI The bandwagon has to stop at intersections so hop off anytime.

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