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Heisman Winner [137983]
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Yobed, here's another to throw on the pile.
Jan 13, 2021, 8:17 AM
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https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1349195548377587713?s=20
For the Clyburn one below, I added a rough quote from him I saw on the Twitter that must have occurred after the linked article that obviously generated some followup questions (the part about rioters looking for him by name). I'll see if I can find it.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Keep me in the wait and see camp......
Jan 13, 2021, 8:23 AM
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A bazillion constituents show up in DC, I'm not going to presume that any members of congress thought they were doing anything other than giving tours to them, absent some hard evidence to the contrary.
The logic doesn't exactly line up either, as every person in that chamber seemed to be in a pretty equal amount of danger. It wouldn't make sense to set these people up and then have yourself front and center during the attack.
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I'm also in the wait-and-see camp. As I mentioned last week,
Jan 13, 2021, 8:27 AM
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it's a pile of puzzle pieces on the floor right now. We'll see if it looks like anything recognizable when they start getting put together. It may just as easily add up to nothing, but either way, we should get most of the truth in the coming weeks/months.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Yup, and I'm not saying this as an insult to you or anyone
Jan 13, 2021, 8:29 AM
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else, but I just don't want to get to the point where I'm cynical enough about the state of our country to easily presume that an actual member of Congress would do this.
To be clear though, if hard evidence were to show that any of them did, I'm ok with the firing squad.
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Well we are at the point where we can assume the President
Jan 13, 2021, 8:33 AM
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supports it.
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Lot o points [155973]
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I would certainly say so.
Jan 13, 2021, 8:39 AM
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And if it's proven that he was in on the plan to infiltrate the Capitol put him up for treason too.
Right now I just have him down for irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric---I have been uncomfortable with his "Be in DC on Jan 6th" comments since he started them. I'm honestly on the fence though, based on current evidence at hand, as to whether he just thought he'd be assembling a big protest that would feed his ego, or whether the Capitol rioters were part of the plan.
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Re: I would certainly say so.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:10 AM
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O,
I think you have to consider that he did NOT have a plan per se, but just rolled with it and pushed it to get out of hand in the heat of the moment.
Does it HAVE to be pre-meditated to be incitement ??
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Lot o points [155973]
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I honestly don't know.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:14 AM
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If I call up a bunch of my buddies and tell them to be in my front yard at 6pm because my neighbors have been stealing paychecks from my mailbox and we are going to fight to get them back, and then when they arrive I say "Ok we're going to go walk over to their house and peacefully protest" but they end up killing the husband and burning down the house, I'm not sure where my liability begins and ends.
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Heisman Winner [137983]
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These are ones that should be fairly easy to flesh out.
Jan 13, 2021, 8:35 AM
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She's on record, and will likely name names. If any of the rioters were in the Capitol prior to last Wednesday (or proxies for them), it'll come out. FBI has their best and brightest on it.
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I'd say it's highly probable that out of the 1,000s and
Jan 13, 2021, 9:14 AM
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1,000s there during the siege, some were there prior.
But saying that someone toured the Capitol prior (along with thousands of others that tour the building) and saying that a Congressional Rep knew said person was in the tour and their intent are very different.
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Also, recall that there are at least two open, outward
Jan 13, 2021, 8:38 AM
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supporters of Q Anon in Congress, in addition to chuckleheads like Mo Brooks, shameless opportunists like Hawley, and spineless bags of unprincipled jelly like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham. .
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I give Graham credit enough to say he wouldn't support
Jan 13, 2021, 8:40 AM
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a coup. Rather, he would sit back quietly until he figures out which side would win and pledge his allegiance at that time.
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Solid plan.
Jan 13, 2021, 8:42 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Solid plan.
Jan 13, 2021, 8:44 AM
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Re: Solid plan.
Jan 13, 2021, 9:17 AM
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That's giving Graham too much credit.
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Re: Solid plan.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:12 AM
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I could say a lot of negative things about Lindsey, but he surfs the changing political waves as well as anyone.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Re: I'm also in the wait-and-see camp. As I mentioned last week,
Jan 13, 2021, 11:07 AM
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19B,
I have been thinking that the Capitol has to be one of those places with a billion security cameras that should help put together the complete picture. But it also occurs to me that US Reps & Senators might NOT like being photographed while doing the people's "business". I wonder just how many cameras there are - and how many blind spots.
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Re: Keep me in the wait and see camp......
Jan 13, 2021, 11:03 AM
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Yeah, I have to agree. I am going to have to see some evidence of such.
You know, sometimes I think of our representatives as somehow more measured and reserved than the average person - and I think some of them are (most of the time). But some of them are just emotional and intemperate as the average guy on the street.
And some of them have been frightened in a way (in this last week) that they have never been frightened before. So there have been a number of ill-considered comments from them lately. This one (without further supporting evidence) is one of the more outrageous.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Agree completely,
Jan 13, 2021, 11:10 AM
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and while I'm feeling all Kumbaya this morning, allow me to say that I always appreciate the respectful way in which you post. I always try to do similarly but don't always live up to it. Cheers.
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Orange Blooded [4365]
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Re: Agree completely,
Jan 13, 2021, 11:13 AM
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O,
Kumbaya to you to.
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Why don’t y’all get a room?***
Jan 13, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Lot o points [155973]
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effin mouthy lawyers.......***
Jan 13, 2021, 11:20 AM
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Hey, that's my rep.***
Jan 13, 2021, 8:33 AM
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I've got Joe Wilson, want to trade?***
Jan 13, 2021, 11:09 AM
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My first reaction was that the allegation sounds absurd.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:08 AM
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But it would explain why so many of those who breached the Capitol seem shocked that they're receiving repercussions. It does almost appear that they believed they were officially sanctioned in some way.
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Seems like there would be footage of that.
Jan 13, 2021, 11:19 AM
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That would be pretty easy to dissect.
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