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TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 1:36 PM
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Creativity is not a word I would have used to describe DJ’s play last year. That sounds much better. Go Tigers! Spot the dang ball!!!!
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 1:40 PM
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It would be cooler if this headline read "DJ Uiagalelei's poise and accuracy downfield earns him starting nod at QB"
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I say throw the long 50-50 ball..
Aug 18, 2022, 1:45 PM
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and pray!
Oh, do you think Georgia & their fierce rushing Dline screwwed him up?
Of course, those hits, sacks, int, mama & daddy separating and his being busy on his NIL food deal and getting overweight didn't help.
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Re: I say throw the long 50-50 ball..
Aug 19, 2022, 1:30 PM
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I honestly think what happened with DJ last year was like the "perfect storm."
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 19, 2022, 1:21 PM
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What are the odds that Cade takes over as starter by mid season, and the odds that he takes the starting job before end of season? 50-50 before mid season, and 70-30 by end of season!!!
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 1:44 PM
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Sounds very positive with him moving in the pocket much better than last year.
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Sorry Gents
Aug 18, 2022, 2:11 PM
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Sounds like Dabo and Tiger coaches are somewhat in denial on QB position. DJ went 17-36 vs. the Tiger Defense in this scrimmage with Cade going right around 15-23. The headline of the article states DJ is creative, but the storyline reads Cade keeps exceptional Tiger Defense on its toes with his running ability. Lots of storyline ahead to play out.
If DJ stays at Clemson next season as Dabo's designated starter, Cade will have to move on down the road, and he will have unlimited options including the top teams in the country. I do not see that happening.
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Re: Sorry Gents
Aug 18, 2022, 2:15 PM
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“Creatively” at the QB position? Ok … Cade moving on due to riding the bench, not a chance.
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Re: Sorry Gents
Aug 18, 2022, 2:19 PM
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Stillapirate® ... Do you believe Cade Klubnik would spend two years on the bench as one of the top players on the team and in the country when he could start almost anywhere else? Something will have to give.
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DJ will be moving on after this year, one way or another.
Aug 18, 2022, 2:37 PM
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Cade is the starter next year.
Think about it. If DJ has a good enough year to keep the starting job all year, he will be going to the NFL because we will be a playoff team. If he falters, Cade gets his shot and DJ transfers. Either way, this will be DJ’s last year at Clemson.
I’m pulling for DJ to rock the football world this year and shock a lot of the naysayers. I want him to have a storybook season.
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Cade would have to compete almost anywhere
Aug 18, 2022, 2:37 PM
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if he wanted to play for a playoff contender. Even if DJ is here 2 more years, this could arguably be his easiest road to starting.
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Re: Sorry Gents
Aug 18, 2022, 3:32 PM
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Yeah, have to agree with Soc and others, Cade ain't riding the pine 2 years.. If he's as advertised. Excited to see what both bring this season.
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Interesting to read Dabo's comments about DJ graduating
Aug 18, 2022, 2:15 PM
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in December and having big plans. That makes it sound like this is DJ's last year here. If correct, I found it odd that it would be decided now...
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Re: Interesting to read Dabo's comments about DJ graduating
Aug 18, 2022, 9:59 PM
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A poster mentioned above and I think it hits the nail on the head.
DJ plays well and keeps the starting spot, he has all the measurables for the NFL and he showed the nfl he can battle through adversity. He’s getting drafted.
DJ struggles and Cade takes over, DJ is going to another school for one last year to try to impress the NFL. He transfers.
Either way, DJ coming back next year is slim to none.
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DJ’s graduating. He’s not coming back to Clemson.***
Aug 18, 2022, 4:48 PM
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Why would Cade need to leave next year?
Aug 18, 2022, 7:52 PM
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DJ will be a senior… means Cade will be the starter for two years.
Give DJ a chance.
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Re: Why would Cade need to leave next year?
Aug 19, 2022, 8:31 AM
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He had a whole season last year. Unopposed. That was his chance. If he is just smaller and more creative (whatever that means), I think they all know including DJ, that Cade will be the starter after a few games.
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Nah...if you read between the lines
Aug 19, 2022, 5:39 AM
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of Dabo's comments, this will likely be DJ's last year one way or the other.
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Re: Sorry Gents
Aug 19, 2022, 1:39 PM
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DJ is graduating in December.
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 2:13 PM
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1 of only 4! to start every game last year, and had a broken
Aug 18, 2022, 2:16 PM
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Finger on his throwing hand. That’s a tough sob who will dominate and we’re lucky to have him
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Re: 1 of only 4! to start every game last year, and had a broken
Aug 18, 2022, 2:35 PM
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Yeah let’s cut this kid a breath until we see what pans out. He’s a fine young man and deserves our support. Not nastiness.
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Nothing but respect and admiration for DJ here…
Aug 18, 2022, 2:41 PM
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If people only knew what he went through last off-season and then during the season, they would be amazed at his resilience and mental toughness. This will be his year of redemption. This team will rally for him too. Watch and see.
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I hear you
Aug 18, 2022, 2:52 PM
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And I read the same thing four years ago as a large percentage of TNet preferred Kelly Bryant as the starter over Trevor Lawrence. That would have cost the Tigers a national championship. Dabo observed and made the right move with a big assist from CW42.
I was vocal then. I was vocal for Deshaun Watson to start asap. And I'm vocal now. Klubnik is being given little respect by many on TNet. It's a 22-starter game. It's about every starter on the team, and giving them the best opportunity to advance. It's now all about DJ.
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You'd be right If Cade = DW4/TL16.
Aug 18, 2022, 3:29 PM
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Huge if though at this point.
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Re: You'd be right If Cade = DW4/TL16.
Aug 19, 2022, 7:31 AM
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That’s the problem. Cade ain’t DW4 or TL16. Not even close.
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Re: I hear you
Aug 18, 2022, 3:43 PM
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I agree w you. There are lots of positive comments circulating on this thread about what DJ is going to do this year. I don't see it. Pretty clear from last year's performance he doesn't have the 'it' factor needed at quarterback for a top 5 team and that isn't going to change all of a sudden this year. This is Kelly Bryant revisited for sure. At least we know Dabo will make a change if change is needed.
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But will he make a change only after a loss or nail-biter?
Aug 18, 2022, 5:26 PM
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Hopefully DJ does great and leads us to a natty. My concern is that Dabo arguably has a track-record of starting the more senior (seemingly worse) QB until partway through the season— undoubtedly with good reasons.
I felt that DW4 should have started over Stout from game-1. Dabo didn't start DW4 until after it arguably cost Clemson a 2nd loss @FSU and an Atlantic crown.
I felt that Trevor Lawrence should have started over Bryant from game-1. Dabo didn’t start TL until game-4. Fortunately we survived a (28-26) nail-biter @TAMU and consequently went on to win a natty. (Not sure we make the playoffs if that nail-biter had gone the other way.)
But Dabo has had a fantastic run, and he seems to learn from his mistakes, so he certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt (to say the least).
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Re: But will he make a change only after a loss or nail-biter?
Aug 18, 2022, 6:21 PM
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Watson played almost the entire FSU game. We didn’t lose bc we started Cole. We lost on a bad snap at the goal line and a crucial late fumble.
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Cole played 1st 3 series of OT-game. Threw gimme TD in dirt
Aug 18, 2022, 9:44 PM
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On the 2nd series, Stoudt threw a rollout gimme TD into the dirt (intended for a wide-open Jordan Leggett). It was the same kind of short TD pass that DW4 completed to Renfrow to clinch the 2016 natty. If Stoudt hadn't thrown that pass into the dirt, the game probably wouldn't have gone into OT.
DW4 had a higher completion percentage (68% vs 60%) and a higher YPA (9.5 vs 8), and more points per series (2 vs 1).
And Watson achieved that despite Stoudt getting the 1st team practice reps.
I think it's pretty safe to say that Clemson would have scored at least one more point, would have put FSU in worse field position a few times, and would have won that game if Watson had gotten the 1st team reps and the start.
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Would have beaten UGA too.***
Aug 19, 2022, 5:23 AM
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DW4's TD-pass to Charone Peak vs UGA was NFL-caliber
Aug 19, 2022, 3:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ou_6nweow8
At the time I was thinking, "Why isn't Watson our starting QB?"
Supposedly he didn't know the playbook well enough to take over the QB job until the 4th series of the FSU OT game that we lost. Apparently, DW4 finished learning the playbook while riding the pine for the first 3 series.
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Re: 1 of only 4! to start every game last year, and had a broken
Aug 18, 2022, 3:25 PM
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Pretty darn good point, plus the knee/leg issue. But I still predict Klubnik will be starter by mid-season. The cryptic messages are too much - I know Dabo has to try to keep everyone happy and confident, but I'm just thinking Klubnik is another generational player that fits into our offense better with his mobility - playing football in Texas at his school is already like playing college (at a lesser tier school) so I feel the learning curve is a bit less than other QBs.
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He had a terrible season last year. He's the starter. Hope
Aug 18, 2022, 2:54 PM
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he blows the numbers out, has a great season and is in the Heisman conversation.
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Re: He had a terrible season last year. He's the starter. Hope
Aug 18, 2022, 3:42 PM
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Interesting that Dabo says they want to get CK in a good bit. That's getting him ready...just in case.
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 3:55 PM
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Great that we have 2 options at QB because last year we really only had 1 and DJ was hurt much of the year.
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Re: TNET: Keep a Defense guessing
Aug 18, 2022, 4:07 PM
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In Football today your QB needs to be runner as well. If not then more times than not a quick 3 and out will only kill your own defense.
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 4:50 PM
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I would have liked for Dabo to say DJ was making better decisions and his accuracy has improved. But I am glad to hear they plan to give Cade playing time.
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 5:22 PM
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Interesting comparison of total snaps with DJU and KB2.
1. In both seasons there was just not a suitable replacement as far as the coaches were concerned, so they didn’t share are many snaps.
2. DW4 and TL16 normally opened up a big lead to pave the way for backups to take more snaps.
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Dabo's best compliment was DJ did well "procedurally". LOL!
Aug 18, 2022, 5:22 PM
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This faint praise shows DJ is toast and we better hope Cade is ready to take over by game 5 (I'm now assuming WF is an automatic win since their QB is out). Not a word about DJ's accuracy being better.
Dabo isn't in denial about anything. He just can't speak his mind on a very sensitive issue.
I truly wish DJ the best but he just isn't very good unless there is an all-universe RB in the backfield that makes defenses panic.
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was apparent at the spring game
Aug 18, 2022, 7:50 PM
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no way was he suddenly going to get better throwing the ball in 5 months..he looked the same in spring as he did during the whole last season.
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 5:36 PM
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I'd rather it be based on accuracy and results but I suspect there's a reason the coaches are using entirely unquantifiable adjectives to rationalize their decision.
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It is what it is. Nothing we decide on Tnet
Aug 18, 2022, 10:06 PM
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Means Jack ####. Trust the coaches or choose not to.
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Trust but verify
Aug 18, 2022, 10:11 PM
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Best man up.
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Lol, nobody here has any ability to verify.
Aug 18, 2022, 10:15 PM
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Like I said, it is what it is. I’m all for Cade coming in to take the start, but according to the coaches, that’s not going to happen.
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Re: It is what it is. Nothing we decide on Tnet
Aug 19, 2022, 1:49 AM
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You have to earn trust every year, especially when you're one of the highest paid coaches in football. Clemson has struggled in big games the last three seasons. It's a fact. Last year, we saw an offense that was on paper the fifth most talented finish near the bottom of the P5 and our playcalling was mocked by all experts at both the college and NFL level. Rather than promoting an expert to come in and overhaul the offense, Dabo promoted a man who has done poorly at every job he's ever had.
Now, we have a quarterback who's out in front despite the fact that not one person can say he can place the ball where it needs to go, which is really all a QB needs to do.
Dabo has done well in his career at Clemson (though I still wonder how much is a function of two legendary QBs and one of the best defenses in history spearheaded by the best defensive coordinator in college football). But those who still think it makes since to blindly trust every decision he makes are idiots.
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Lol, again, what part of the decision making process
Aug 19, 2022, 2:13 AM
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do you think fans have any control of not that you sound like one.
Edify the bored please with what Streeter had done a poor job at in his career to support your claim.
Nobody with a pulse believe your narrative about the offense without considering the mass attrition that decimated the top of the roster.
Of course his success is predicated on the talent he recruited and the coaches he hired. THAT’S his job and how he’s evaluated.
Nobody advocated for blind trust, but again, it doesn’t matter what any fan thinks. That’s why he’s paid what he’s paid and you root for the coots. The AD and BOT determine his fate as the leader of the program.
Lastly, you meant sense not since, which doesn’t help your credibility…
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Re: TNET: DJ Uiagalelei's creativity and confidence earn him starting nod at QB
Aug 18, 2022, 9:44 PM
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An absolute waste of time to talk who is leaving in one or two years - that will play out and not any amount of speculation from us the fans will shed any light on it.
This year is what is important and we've seen this movie twice before with DW and TL coming in and slowly making their way into the lineup with "starters" in front of them as the year began - Dabo is not going to do any different this year. However, this year is different in that neither of those two that DW and TL passed over, had anywhere near the upside and potential of DJ. He is and should be for now the starter but its a long season so the job is his to loose. Kade knew that when he came here.
Let's see what happens and then you can speculate all your want or else just watch the movie play out.
FJ
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Finally a voice of reason…***
Aug 18, 2022, 10:07 PM
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Re: Finally a voice of reason…***
Aug 19, 2022, 3:23 AM
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Yep.
It might be that we’re going to be a run-first team, and most throws are high percentage throws, maybe 10 yards max. One or two shots downfield per game. With a defense like ours we could be. More throws to the tight end over the middle. But who knows? I trust Dabo. That’s my speculation.
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Speculating is a waste of time? So is commenting about it!
Aug 19, 2022, 12:28 AM
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It seems funny to comment that speculating is a waste of time, as if people don't know that. Heck, pretty much every comment posted on any sports-site is a waste of time-- as is much of what's discussed on sports-talk-radio, sports-blogs, podcasts, etc. It's a pastime!
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We’re gonna lose if the fans don’t FOCUS!!’n***
Aug 19, 2022, 5:26 AM
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Sorry. I'm just gonna take it one game at a time. :-)***
Aug 19, 2022, 3:11 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93682]
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If DJ wears a purple jersey every game...
Aug 19, 2022, 7:48 AM
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he will take the Heisman home.
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