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Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 1:11 PM
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This happened just after the 4th of July Parade stepped off. This is absolutely getting out of hand. Apparently it is as of now 1 shooter. This is a very influential suburb of Chicago.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 1:28 PM
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I don't think the percentage of mentally ill has changed. I think the media given to these events fans the flames and we get the next one. I think that a person who sees no other means to leave a mark will leave an evil mark. One thing I'm sure of gun control doesn't work.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 2:02 PM
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6 dead and 24 I injured. These sick individuals need to be eradicated.
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Must have a gun control!
Jul 4, 2022, 8:29 PM
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Give the hard working criminal a heads up & a fighting chance to get his job done! At least it will give the violent criminal, innately leaning politically to the left, some idea of what kind of fire power he's up against, for instance: anyone in the killbox with a pulse could potentially armed or is it left unprotected by a weapons ban or (carrying ban) like most institutions of higher education have(had) in place-
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Hope they catch his ###.....***
Jul 4, 2022, 2:02 PM
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Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 2:06 PM
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 2:11 PM
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AGAIN it’s another young white male doing the shooting.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 2:18 PM
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Time the death penalty needs to come back. Illinois did away with it, but now is the time to reinstate it. Probably want do any good, but maybe it will make these idiots think twice before being so stupid. This is an 18-20 year old kid again.
Hate to be this way, but that suburb is highly Jewish and my gut feeling is it is most likely a hate crime. There has been many instances where businesses have had nazi symbols painted on them.
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Just a normal guy...........
Jul 5, 2022, 7:59 AM
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You sure that's a 'white male' ?? The problem is clear.
Jul 5, 2022, 8:17 AM
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 4:13 PM
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If you're trying to make white males out to be the violent crime problem in America you better check your numbers.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 4:25 PM
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It will be widely covered by media because it is a white male. When these incidents are gang related you hardly hear about them because it doesn’t fit the media narrative like a white guy committing a hate crime does. I saw yesterday that there had already been 2 mass shootings in Chicago this weekend as of yesterday morning. They didn’t hit the mainstream media because they sounded more like gang type activity. All of them are terrible and I personally agree with Illinois Tiger that the death penalty should be brought back (and administered widely and quickly, I will add). But there is no doubt in my mind the media emphasizes the cases that fit their narrative more than the others.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 5:05 PM
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The Death Penalty has been shown NOT to be a deterrent of murder.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 7:50 PM
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Do you have a better idea? Obviously in Chicago stricter gun laws aren’t a deterrent either.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 5, 2022, 2:05 PM
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The Death Penalty isn't real to anyone. Its just something you hear about from time to time. In order to be a deterrent people have to witness it carried out.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 5:11 PM
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It's being covered by the media because it is so shocking and out of place, not because the shooter is white. Gang violence in the bad neighborhoods of Chicago is not shocking, though it too often ends with injuries to innocent bystanders. Highland Park is an affluent community, and the shooting took place at 10am during the 4th of July Parade. I don't feel good about all the gang violence, but I also feel like it doesn't effect me as much. Something like this feels a lot closer to home for a lot of people, and that's why it will be getting so much coverage. Not because the media is out to get the white man.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 7:49 PM
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That is a sad state if the neighborhood a shooting happens in makes it more shocking or “out of place” than another shooting that takes just as many lives. It certainly isn’t any more or less horrific because of the location where it happened. The lives lost in those gang shootings are just as important as those lost at a parade.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 5, 2022, 3:18 AM
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Hold on guys about the race issue, in my opinion we have two races, those who have a relationship with Jesus and those who don’t.
It’s race baiting and dividing folks over color when we all crafted by the creator as a cherished individual with gifts like no other we are made human in the image of God himself.
This is the evil within someone when they chose to take precious live not their color or Nationality.
We need to pray that the hearts and souls in America turn back to our awesome God so they have true freedom for life. When they have Gods love in their life they aren’t going to be planning to kill the precious life God has given.
I’m praying for these families to have peace, comfort and Gods love beyond our understanding during this time of their grieving. That we all may walk in the mighty Love of God. In Jesus Name, Amen.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 5, 2022, 9:07 AM
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wdym? White males are usually the ones that do the serial crimes, and with black males gang related violence.. that is true lol.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 4, 2022, 5:49 PM
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AGAIN it’s another young white male doing the shooting.
Take your racist garbage some place else.
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Re: Hope you have your doors locked...
Jul 5, 2022, 8:54 AM
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Again? the one in Texas what Latino/Hispanic, the one in DC was Black, and the one in Buffalo was White....but this is just an issue period. Majority have been white, but so is the majority of the population. And like one above, the media keeps these loons going by adding fuel to the fire. Gun laws clearly don't help, a criminal will find a gun. The strictest gun laws have been in effect in cities like Chicago, Det, Philly...etc, we see how well that works. Social media and everything else now with the media has just ignited this thing like no other IMO. But it all starts with home training and thats something I don't see ever changing either.
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Re: I hope they kill him dead.***
Jul 4, 2022, 5:09 PM
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That's too easy....
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 2:55 PM
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Back in the late 80s, 90s, and up to 2014 (when I retired and moved from Illinois), I never felt unsafe in the City even around Comiskey Park at Sox games. Highland Park was lnown for being affluent and very quiet. My son and his wife live in Arlington Heights now and used to go downtown all the time. It's rare if they venture there. It's ashame such a once nice city has turned to this.
I read earlier today that the richest man in Illinois Ken Griffin is moving his hedge fund company, Citadel, out of Chicago to Florida. If things don't change with crime and murders, Chicago will end up gutted like Detroit.
Stay safe IllinoisTiger.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 4:49 PM
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Answer 2 statements here. No I am not trying to make it out to be white males, didn’t say that. Just so happens to be a white male.
Saddis56, I stay out of Chicago now due to all of the random violence and I used to go downtown all of the time but not anymore. Want say that nothing would happen where I live but Where I live is about 15 miles from your son in Arlington Heights. Not only is Ken Griffin moving his headquarters to Miami, but Boeing is packing up and leaving.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 4, 2022, 4:44 PM
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Has been totally out of hand for several years
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Video games?
Jul 4, 2022, 5:09 PM
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What's the odds that so many of these shooters are under 30yrs old?? Most the time they are kids that were not given parental guidance beyond giving the kids computers, iPads, cell phones to keep the kids entertained playing games so the parents could do their own thing and not be bothered by the children. All too often, kids sit in their bedroom and if the kids home, the parents feel like he is a good kid and not hurting anyone.
But what the parents don't thing about is the lack of physical interaction reducing the social skills of the kids. Then kids don't learn to respect authority and they believe they can just hit the reset button to start over. They lose touch with reality.
The era of not being able to grade papers with red ink because it's too harsh had been a complete failure. It's time for punishments that fit the crime. Kids need to learn this as well. The days of paddling, spanking, week long restrictions or longer, the era I grew up in and before, we didn't have crazy mass shootings and all the kids grew up around guns probably more than nowadays.
Lack of punishments, hours of video games, lack of respect for authority, etc. has run us down this rabbit hole.
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Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 4, 2022, 5:29 PM
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Onsite that took the shooter out before he could have taken so many shots.
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Re: Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 4, 2022, 6:12 PM
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He was on a roof top. Showed clips but not shooter. Started shooting and then stopped and about 10 seconds later started again. Just enough time for an inexperienced gunman to change clips.
The shooter has been identified. 22 year old male, high school drop out. (Makes no difference). Showing a picture of him and he just looks like trouble. I know, profiling.
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Re: Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 4, 2022, 6:45 PM
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Here's th a** hole person of interest.
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There's a "slight" chance he fits the profile... "slight".***
Jul 4, 2022, 7:05 PM
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Re: There's a
Jul 4, 2022, 7:41 PM
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Hearing he has been apprehended in or near Madison, Wi. Hopefully that is correct..
Actually he was apprehended in Lake Forest, Il. Didn’t get far. Good police work today.
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Re: Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 5, 2022, 1:27 AM
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You know I threw out there that bad parenting is a major cause, but bad profiling and not following up is another major cause. The young black lady that was shot in NY pushing her baby across the street in a stroller had asked for help multiple times. She had or had requested a restraining order. She had friends and family make police reports that she was in serious danger. She took all the steps necessary to stay safe and alive but the govt neglected her protection. The guns once again are not the problem, this guy could have just as easily used a machete or a hatchet or whatever. But once agai!n, this doesn't follow the agenda of the media.
But what's all over the news today is nothing of the young black mother, but the young black guy that shot at cops but was shot and killed by the police. What about the 3-4cops shot in Pennsylvania today, doesn't fit the narratives.
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Re: Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 5, 2022, 12:24 PM
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I agree that guns aren't the ONLY problem and I own guns myself so don't paint me as a "take away the guns" person here. However, these types of shootings happen more in our country than any other developed country in the world and it's not even close. Either we have many many more bad guys with guns here or it's simply too easy for just anyone to get access to powerful guns here. Either way, something isn't working for us when compared to other developed parts of the world.
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Re: Too bad there wasn't a Concealed Carry person...
Jul 5, 2022, 1:17 PM
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I agree in a lot of ways. I am a hunter and have my concealed carry permit. People are the problem and there are some people who just should not have access to guns. Here is a thought. It seems like several of these recent incidents were carried out by young perpetrators who bought their guns legally. I believe in some of these cases the gun used in the incident was the first gun that person had ever purchased. Some are going to go crazy over this suggestion, but what if we made the background check for first time gun buyers much more in depth to include checking social media posts, possible mental health issues, and any other “red flag” issues. This may take up to a week so there is a built in waiting period. If a person is cleared through this more in depth review for the first time purchase, then any purchases after that would go through the current background screening process. If this had been done on the Highland Park shooter it seems like the social media history would have come to light and maybe prevented him from getting a gun. I try to be a responsible gun owner and I do recognize not everyone can handle the responsibility that comes with owning a gun. And there are others like this guy that seem to be just evil and there must be some way to stop them or at least make it more difficult for them short of taking everyone’s guns away.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 5, 2022, 4:28 AM
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Not sure why such off topic posts are allowed on a forum like this, it just makes things heated and toxic.
But as it’s allowed, it shocks me that every other civilised, western country has reached (successfully) the same conclusions about how to prevent gun violence, and you draw such different conclusions.
The majority of Americans support gun control, (and abortion) so I don’t get why your elected representatives don’t vote for them. It seems undemocratic.
But there is another interesting point, why Canada who has similar levels of gun ownership doesn’t have lots of mass shootings? the media reacts very differently in other countries, they don’t glamourise the shooters, they dont give them the attention they want and validate their actions.
Yes having limited access to firearms is an obvious step but there are other cultural things that could be done like stopping glamourising there shooters.
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Re: Mass shooting in Highland Park,Ill
Jul 5, 2022, 1:13 PM
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