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Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 9:56 AM
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Dec 3, 2013, 9:57 AM
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If the Vandy coach can get looks from every major program
Dec 3, 2013, 10:03 AM
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Then WF could be a good move for Morris. If he went there and quickly got them 8 wins he would set himself up nicely for a $3 million salary somewhere.
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Don't see this happening. They're messing w/ our recruits.***
Dec 3, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:03 AM
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If Chad Morris leaves for a low end, Div 1 job at Wake Forest then it's a good indication that Dabo's butt is getting warmer than we think.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 11:00 AM
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What a crazy ### post
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:03 AM
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interesting I was wondering if Wake payed Grobe as well as Chad. looks like JG was making $2.2 million based on what I saw
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I don't see him leaving for a HC job in the ACC where he....
Dec 3, 2013, 10:04 AM
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would have to compete with us and FSU - also think he'd want to go where the probability of success is greater than what Wake can offer.
But who knows??
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Most opportunities for first time coaches are not at great
Dec 3, 2013, 4:15 PM
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schools. You become a good coordinator, take a head coaching school at lower tier program, get 8 wins, then move up to a good/decent head coaching position. You don't go from coordinator to a great school.
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Dec 3, 2013, 4:46 PM
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:05 AM
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I really don't see Chad Morris leaving Clemson for the HC job at WF. All indications are that it would have to be a pretty unique high profile position for him to want to leave a job in an area of the country that he likes and that he wouldn't have the stress and hassle of being the HC.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:07 AM
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Wake would be a good fit for chad and his high school play calling
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:16 AM
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Agree, after that trick play in the first drive of the game.
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That was a strong sentiment on T-Net after Wake's ACC title
Dec 3, 2013, 12:39 PM
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Grobe was everybody's darling when he took Wake to the Orange Bowl and a great many Tiger fans wanted him to replace Tommy Bowden.
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Morris may need to understand he is not Gus
Dec 3, 2013, 10:08 AM
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And even gus went to Arky State first. Wake would not be a bad move but not a great move.
I think UVA needs to can that clown they have and hire morris. That would be a great move for both parties.
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Re: Morris may need to understand he is not Gus
Dec 7, 2013, 8:51 AM
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UVA has two top ten recruits right now... gotta wait for them to get on campus, then fire the coach next year.
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"recent" should read "every"***
Dec 3, 2013, 10:08 AM
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really? would be a great move IMO...
Dec 3, 2013, 10:09 AM
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Success at Wake would springboard him to a big time div 1 program
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Problem is you said, "Success at Wake."
Dec 3, 2013, 10:18 AM
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He makes $1.3MM here and doesn't want his first HC job to be his last. I don't see it. He has DW coming in next year and a big RB. No way he leaves.
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Re: Problem is you said, "Success at Wake."
Dec 3, 2013, 10:47 AM
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> He makes $1.3MM here and doesn't want his first HC > job to be his last. I don't see it. He has DW > coming in next year and a big RB. No way he leaves.
Malzahn, who was paid more the Chad as the OC at Auburn, took a paycut to get the HC job at Arkansas State, which proved to be important to him getting the Auburn job. Chad knows this and has probably talked w/ Malzahn. Wake is a much better stepping stone than Arkansas State and he won't have to take a pay cut.
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Re: Problem is you said, "Success at Wake."
Dec 3, 2013, 11:01 AM
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Malzahn left Auburn because he knew that idiot Chizik was gonna get crapcanned sooner rather than later and if he timed everything right he would be postured to be the returning "saviour" of Auburn. As it turns out - Malzahn played it perfectly. Don't think Chad is in the same boat as Malzahn when he departed for Arkansas State. I would be extremely surprised if Chad went to Wake Forest...
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Re: Problem is you said, "Success at Wake."
Dec 3, 2013, 12:35 PM
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Malzahn & Chizik bumped heads and Gus knew he had to try his system on his own to prove his worth, which he did. He was confident in what he was doing even if it meant taking a pay cut. I don't think he imagined the Auburn job would have come opened so quickly. Chad has the same confidence but he won't have to take a pay cut. And I think he'll be successful quickly and may only be in W-S a couple of years. I think there are some other jobs he'd rather have but in the end he'd take Wake.
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I thought we wanted him to leave?
Dec 3, 2013, 10:09 AM
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or not anymore because it's Tuesday?
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Re: I thought we wanted him to leave?
Dec 8, 2013, 2:35 PM
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yeah we want him to leave so we can see how bad out head coach is...then we can pull an auburn and hire our former oc as head coach lol. IDK i think the chad is a great guy but he definitely calls the game like he wants rather than whats working.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:13 AM
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Can Wake even pay him what he is making now? I cant see this being a good move. I know James Franklin is getting some looks at Vandy but perception is different in the SEC.
When Vandy does well in the SEC, it means the Vandy coach is brilliant.
When Duke/Wake etc does well in the ACC, it just means the ACC sucks even worse.
Not sure winning 7-8 there will get him the next big offer elsewhere.
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No way Morris goes to Wake ...
Dec 3, 2013, 10:15 AM
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... he needs talent to make the offense work.
He wouldn't get it at Wake.
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Re: No way Morris goes to Wake ...
Dec 3, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Apex ,you're exactly right!
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Re: No way Morris goes to Wake ...
Dec 3, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Pete Lembo seems like the obvious candidate here
Dec 3, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Morris will get his chance soon though.
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Re: Pete Lembo seems like the obvious candidate here
Dec 3, 2013, 10:20 AM
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I have a friend who is a Ball State fan. He introduced me to their program when Hoke was there. Lembo is well thought of and has done a good job there.
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Don't take the Wake job Chad!
Dec 3, 2013, 10:46 AM
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It's dead-end. Has to be one of the toughest jobs in the country.
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Don't think their stadium is big enough for his ego.***
Dec 3, 2013, 10:48 AM
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You, coots, know NOTHING about Clemson or its coaches.
Dec 7, 2013, 12:28 AM
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please return to cooterville. And good luck in Five Points.
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Chad Morris will leave Clemson one day, but....
Dec 3, 2013, 10:49 AM
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it won't be a for Wake Forest or UConn.
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Who do you think he would leave Clemson for BigCUfan?***
Dec 3, 2013, 10:55 AM
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Well....
Dec 3, 2013, 11:10 AM
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he is the highest paid assistant coach in the nation which gives him the luxury of being patient and somewhat selective. That also eliminates many of the smaller less competitive and non-BCS schools form consideration.
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Re: Well....
Dec 7, 2013, 8:56 AM
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I agree that he has as good/better options than just about any assistant in the country, but it seems lately that schools are placing a high emphasis on head coaching expirience.
He could do better than wake, but not by much and only if the right job opens up in the right part of the country.
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Salary...
Dec 3, 2013, 10:58 AM
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He can 3 million at Wake probably.
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Re: Salary...
Dec 3, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Bye Chad.
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These kinds of moves make you a career coordinator***
Dec 3, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Like to make calls/write emails huh? I'd be writing to
Dec 3, 2013, 11:20 AM
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those same figure heads and Chad to let him know how much we appreciate him here before he takes off to another program. I know some of you are ticked about this one game, but his offensive production is much better than what we had for decades. How soon some of you forget how demoralizing it was. Just sayin'.
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This won't happen. This is not the fancey job he is after.
Dec 3, 2013, 11:20 AM
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That's if he is even after another job. He has a cushion position here where he makes a lot of money and all you people are happy with winning 10 games a year and he doesn't even have to beat FSU or South Carolina to keep it. Just as long as he can muster ten wins against garbage teams ya'll are happy. I am so glad that I am among the few tiger fans that see this for what it's worth and not happy with just winning ten games and getting blown out in our big ones.
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Chad Morris is not going anywhere this year
Dec 3, 2013, 11:26 AM
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1-2 more years until his daughter graduates, then he will choose best available program which won't be Wake-UConn
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The question for Chad is...Does WFU provide an opportunity
Dec 3, 2013, 11:57 AM
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to advance his career.
I'm not sure that it does.
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Why wouldn't Wake offer the chance to advance his career?
Dec 3, 2013, 12:07 PM
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He will have the opportunity to show if his skillset can transition as a OC to a HC. The expectations are extremely low so winning 8 games would be successful. If he fails he can always get another gig as an OC.
What does he gain by staying at Clemson? He's already proven as much as he can. Won an ACC championship, had an excellent offense.
If anything with a bit of a rebuilding project next year at Clemson with FSU coming back strong next season, next year could diminish his stock.
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Re: Why wouldn't Wake offer the chance to advance his career?
Dec 3, 2013, 9:08 PM
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go home coot
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Re: Why wouldn't Wake offer the chance to advance his career?
Dec 4, 2013, 1:31 PM
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If he wants to be a HC, what would be the best conference for him to cut his teeth in? Maybe it's the one in which he is already familiar with all of the competition and where there are fewer roadblocks to an 8 win season.
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I say the dew is off the rose.....good riddance!
Dec 3, 2013, 12:15 PM
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cutesy trick plays were not needed - doing well w/o them
Dec 4, 2013, 4:52 AM
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All he needed to do was play the straight ahead 4 to 6 yds per carry like in drive to start 2nd half.
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See ya Chad, been real. A really humiliating experience ie
Dec 3, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Coots, FSU, WV. Ruined some what would have been good chip dip and beer nights
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Re: See ya Chad, been real. A really humiliating experience ie
Dec 3, 2013, 5:21 PM
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Yes, it was definitely Chad's fault the defense gave up 70 points.
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IMO
Dec 3, 2013, 12:32 PM
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This board whines all the time that the other ACC schools need to pick it up and make the conference better. Wouldnt this be the chance? How is Wake a dead end job? They are in a major BCS conference, lots of talent in the state, and when Duke is the best team in NC then Wake can definitely move up.
For those of yall who think he is going to get an offer from a top 10 team, here is news for you. Like Franklin, Morris can raise his stock going to to a small team and showing he can make them relative with less talent. Morris was not offered Tennessee, Texas Tech, or NC State last year so this would be a golden oppurtunity. The man wants to be a head coach and the ACC needs good head coaches, it is a good fit.
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If Morris goes to Wake, he will have to ...
Dec 3, 2013, 8:38 PM
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... make them relevant in 3 years and then jump. Otherwise he will end up like Jim Grobe.
Every school in the country anticipating a HC change had Grobe near the top of their short list.
In 2006, he won 11 games ... won the ACC ... went to the Orange Bowl!
He reportedly turned down the Nebraska job !!
Yes, he had completely changed the culture at Wake Forest and proved without a doubt that a good coach could overcome the huge number of disadvantages the program has always faced.
Now Wake sucks again. It was all a fantasy.
Grobe made Wake competitive through patience and player development, not recruiting and fancy offensive schemes.
Obviously Grobe had no ambition for a bigger job and he gave everything he had to Wake's long-term success. And even this dedication failed to make Wake Forest a perennial winner.
IMHO, a hot young assistant going to Wake with an eye toward parlaying it into a bigger job will have to do it fast and get out, otherwise he is probably doomed to failure.
And things don't move fast at Wake ... they take time.
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Wake got a crappy return on their $2.3 mil then.***
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OC at a major football power like Clemson > HC at Wake
Dec 3, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Sorry coots and haters...it just is.
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Who was the last coordinator
Dec 3, 2013, 12:47 PM
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From Clemson to take a high profile head coaching position?
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Re: Who was the last coordinator
Dec 3, 2013, 2:22 PM
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Rich Rod
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 1:44 PM
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I really hope Chad doesn't leave until after he has a chance to work with Deshaun-i think Chad will be a terrific head coach someday-i would just like to see what heights we can reach with Chad and DW.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 2:23 PM
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Don't sell out Kelly.
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Wake Forest is a coaching graveyard.
Dec 3, 2013, 3:39 PM
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Chad will eventually make a move - but there are *far* better venues than WF.
Hopefully, he stays right here at Clemson to coach and mentor the nation's number 1 Dual Threat QB, Deshaun Watson.
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After that WR pass on the opening drive I have
Dec 3, 2013, 3:44 PM
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come to the conclusion that he has no clue what he is doing as a play caller. I think if we score there, game over. We stay on top the entire game.
It will not hurt my feelings if he leaves.
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Agree, we were moving well without tricksy, cutesy play
Dec 4, 2013, 5:00 AM
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And since it was tried already a couple of games ago, it was not even a trick play anymore. Plus, he had been throwing to Adam several times, why not use a tall receiver, and it may have worked despite USC being ready for it. And he runs the QB too often Rod was running so well, then QB ran it twice in a row, fumbling the second time.
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So what's the chances of landing Malone with this garbage
Dec 3, 2013, 4:04 PM
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floating around...
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Good point triple T
Dec 4, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 4:22 PM
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If any of you goobers think chad is even thinking of wake I got some prime swamp land I Florida for sale.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 4:24 PM
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He ll just use that as a way to get another #### raise
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 4:30 PM
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He is gone this year. Tajh gone, Sammy Gone....... Chad sees the writing on the wall.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 4:35 PM
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They're all gone,gone,gone........
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 4:45 PM
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Problem is that Chad is really our head Coach.
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Standout [311]
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 5:05 PM
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Chad Morris is an offensive coach (mind) and a head coaching job is the CEO of the football program. That means his time will be divided between recruiting, planning, budgeting, PR and other task! He will not have time available to think about offensive football! He is better placed as Clemson's OC and should remain there until he wants to "quit" coaching on a daily basis and start managing a program. Money is not everything and you can only spend so much per year! He should coach at Clemson, have fun in developing young men and look for an HC job about 5 years from now!
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Take dabo!...we'll keep Chad!***
Dec 3, 2013, 5:19 PM
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Nm
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:35 PM
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Don't forget Malzahn - Chad's mentor and former highest-paid coordinator in the country - took more responsibility and less money and exposure to leave Auburn OC for Arkansas State's head job. That could entice Chad to think he could do the same, go to Wake now and come back in a couple of years as HC if Dabo sinks without him. Doubtful, but food for thought.
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Re: Football Update: Chad Morris linked to recent coaching vacancy
Dec 3, 2013, 10:37 PM
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I will pay his bus fare if he will leave now and not come back.
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Both coordinators don't deserve to be head coaches anywhere
Dec 4, 2013, 4:11 AM
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yet. They have work to do to this program.
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Why Leave Clemson???
Dec 4, 2013, 6:51 AM
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Morris has it made here! Put up great stats except for the coot game and nothing is done about it!
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