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Dline development
Feb 16, 2021, 2:43 PM
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Under Dabo...
5 star, Dexter Lawrence, 2 (1st)
5 star, Christian Wilkins, 24 (1st)
4 star, Malliciah Goodman, 61 (4th)
4 star, Carlos Watkins, 72 (4th)
4 star, Albert Huggins, 90 (undrafted)
4 star, Xavier Kelly, 100 (undrafted)
4 star, Clelin Ferrell, 115 (1st)
4 star, Austin Bryant, 200 (4th)
4 star, Martin Aiken, 282 (undrafted)
4 star, Richard Yeargin, 279 (undrafted)
4 star, Scott Pagano, 279 (undrafted)
4 star, Chris Register, 307 (undrafted)
4 star, DJ Reader, 376 (5th)
4 star, Shaq Lawson, JUCO (1st)
4 star, Corey Crawford, JUCO (undrafted)
4 star, Josh Watson, JUCO (undrafted)
3 star, Tavaris Barnes, 379 (undrafted)
3 star, Sterling Johnson, 494 (undrafted)
3 star, DeShawn Williams, 591 (undrafted)
3 star, Roderick Byers, 675 (undrafted)
3 star, Kevin Dodd, 936 (2nd)
3 star, Grady Jarrett, 1161 (5th)
3 star, Jabril Robinson, 1361 (undrafted)
2 star, Vic Beasley, 2352 (1st)
TBD...
5 star, Bryan Bresee, 1 (lock)
5 star, Xavier Thomas, 3 (lock)
5 star, Myles Murphy, 7 (lock)
5 star, KJ Henry, 14 (IDK)
4 star, Demonte Capehart, 34 (IDK)
4 star, Tre Williams, 94 (IDK)
4 star, Payton Page, 94 (IDK)
4 star, Cade Denhoff, 104 (IDK)
4 star, Tyler Davis, 137 (lock)
4 star, Justin Mascoll, 142 (IDK)
4 star, Justin Foster, 156 (IDK)
4 star, Jordan Williams, 167 (doubtful)
4 star, Zaire Patterson, 184 (IDK)
4 star, Nyles Pinckney, 308 (doubtful)
3 star, Etinosa Reuben, 473 (IDK)
3 star, Greg Williams, 549 (IDK)
3 star, Darnell Jefferies, 560 (doubtful)
3 star, Ruke Orhorhoro, 745 (IDK)
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Re: Dline development
Feb 16, 2021, 3:02 PM
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Under Dabo and Coach V.
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Re: Dline development
Feb 16, 2021, 3:55 PM
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Drafting is not a good measure of development. Development means how much one improves between enrolling and graduation. Look at Ben Boulware and Kendall Joseph. Both improved a ton over their years at Clemson yet neither were drafted. Some guys skill set does not translate to the NFL even though the made great improvement over their college years.
You put in a lot of work but it is not a good measure for what you are trying to illustrate.
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Boulware was an All American. Boulware was also undrafted.
Feb 16, 2021, 4:30 PM
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These posts about “development” seem to be more about taking thinly veiled cheap shots at our staff. Look at the recruiting class rankings and then compare the overall results of our program. Fact: no one has done a better job than Dabo and our coaching staff the past few years.
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Re: Boulware was an All American. Boulware was also undrafted.
Feb 16, 2021, 4:33 PM
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They’re not thinly veiled.
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Re: Boulware was an All American. Boulware was also undrafted.
Feb 16, 2021, 7:52 PM
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I actually thought this was an impressive list. I’m sorry that you took it the wrong way.
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Re: Boulware was an All American. Boulware was also undrafted.
Feb 17, 2021, 10:25 AM
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Yes - but you specifically attributed this group to Coach Swinney. When you disparaged the rest of the defensive development you attributed it to Coach Venables.
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Re: Boulware was an All American. Boulware was also undrafted.
Mar 31, 2021, 10:13 AM
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Not true. I gave BV credit for LBs. I gave Mike Reed credit for DBs. I just didn't feel like giving credit to Kevin Steele, Charlie Harbison, Marion Hobby, Dan Brooks, Todd Bates, Lemanski Hall, or the other defensive line coaches Dabo has had. So I just gave Dabo the credit instead. Hope this helps.
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Re: Dline development
Feb 16, 2021, 4:27 PM
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Thanks for this. I expected those draft numbers to be high. Man we have been absolutely spoiled on the DLine. It’s no wonder people are in shock when we couldn’t get consistent pressure last year. That is a loooong list of studs.
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Re: Dline development
Feb 16, 2021, 7:48 PM
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We’ve been really solid under Dabo and BV. The future looks even brighter. Bresee and Murphy are locks for the 1st round.
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Re: Dline development
Feb 17, 2021, 10:30 AM
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Under Dabo...
5 star, Dexter Lawrence, 2 (1st)
5 star, Christian Wilkins, 24 (1st)
4 star, Malliciah Goodman, 61 (4th)
4 star, Carlos Watkins, 72 (4th)
4 star, Albert Huggins, 90 (undrafted)
4 star, Xavier Kelly, 100 (undrafted)
4 star, Clelin Ferrell, 115 (1st)
4 star, Austin Bryant, 200 (4th)
4 star, Martin Aiken, 282 (undrafted)
4 star, Richard Yeargin, 279 (undrafted)
4 star, Scott Pagano, 279 (undrafted)
4 star, Chris Register, 307 (undrafted)
4 star, DJ Reader, 376 (5th)
4 star, Shaq Lawson, JUCO (1st)
4 star, Corey Crawford, JUCO (undrafted)
4 star, Josh Watson, JUCO (undrafted)
3 star, Tavaris Barnes, 379 (undrafted)
3 star, Sterling Johnson, 494 (undrafted)
3 star, DeShawn Williams, 591 (undrafted)
3 star, Roderick Byers, 675 (undrafted)
3 star, Kevin Dodd, 936 (2nd)
3 star, Grady Jarrett, 1161 (5th)
3 star, Jabril Robinson, 1361 (undrafted)
2 star, Vic Beasley, 2352 (1st)
TBD...
5 star, Bryan Bresee, 1 (lock)
5 star, Xavier Thomas, 3 (lock)
5 star, Myles Murphy, 7 (lock)
5 star, KJ Henry, 14 (IDK)
4 star, Demonte Capehart, 34 (IDK)
4 star, Tre Williams, 94 (IDK)
4 star, Payton Page, 94 (IDK)
4 star, Cade Denhoff, 104 (IDK)
4 star, Tyler Davis, 137 (lock)
4 star, Justin Mascoll, 142 (IDK)
4 star, Justin Foster, 156 (IDK)
4 star, Jordan Williams, 167 (doubtful)
4 star, Zaire Patterson, 184 (IDK)
4 star, Nyles Pinckney, 308 (doubtful)
3 star, Etinosa Reuben, 473 (IDK)
3 star, Greg Williams, 549 (IDK)
3 star, Darnell Jefferies, 560 (doubtful)
3 star, Ruke Orhorhoro, 745 (IDK)
JUCO should be Prep School ??
Crazy good list though - wonder how this would look by the end of the decade...we literally will have to shift from all time teams to all decade / Dabo Era teams ??
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Re: Dline development
Mar 31, 2021, 10:21 AM
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I was just reviewing some the recruits and I noticed that 247 sports always has Clemson at twice the amount (sometimes more) of that position player than any other service. It showed we had 14 running backs on the team. Why is that?
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Re: Dline development
Mar 31, 2021, 10:32 AM
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That's really strange. I don't know, but clearly we do not have that many.
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