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Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 11:38 AM
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when TL was announced starter after the GT game.
GOAT president wanted to meet the GOAT true freshman in person along with GOAT college football coach.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 12:23 PM
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Please do not bring politics on this site. Suggesting Trump is anthing more than a con artist is just stupid. Please go back to work.
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Wait, you did the opposite of what you said he couldn't do***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:25 PM
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Stupid is as stupid does***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:26 PM
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Make that, "Especially Hillary", not "even Hillary"***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:28 PM
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Re: Make that, "Especially Hillary", not "even Hillary"***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:34 PM
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Watch out. Some libtard snowflake will give you a TD. Oh, the horrors.
Ha ha. Yep. See I told ya. A butt hurt loser out there.
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Re: Make that, "Especially Hillary", not "even Hillary"***
Jan 14, 2019, 1:05 PM
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And on cue tiger_swimmer to share some of his pearls of wisdom
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Re: ^tells people to not bring politics on this site
Jan 14, 2019, 12:39 PM
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It's ok when they do it.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 12:36 PM
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They are not stupid ! They have an agenda. Keep this 1960 Khrushchev speech firmly entrenched in your mind and you will understand today's left wing. Khrushchev said, "We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism." Trump is unwinding decades or progressives work and that is why they hate him so much.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 12:40 PM
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But why shouldn't rich people take care of all of us so we can have free college art classes and get high?
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 3:19 PM
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They are not stupid ! They have an agenda. Keep this 1960 Khrushchev speech firmly entrenched in your mind and you will understand today's left wing. Khrushchev said, "We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism." Trump is unwinding decades or progressives work and that is why they hate him so much.
Good God there is only so much regressive derpism I can take...and I'm a registered Republican.
So the Russians, in your mind, are suddenly good? There is no essential distinction between the old Soviet state and the modern Russia run by Putin, a former KGB agent. Political tags and slogans come and go, the basic ingredients remain - a state-run media apparatus, a corrupt and largely untouchable political caste of elites. Before they were called the nomenklatura - the Party elite - nowawadays they're called the oligarchs, and it's basically the same guys who grabbed the country's resources after the collapse of the old Soviet state and kept right on looting the country to the walls.
The Soviet Union did not just magically transform itself from far left to far right in 20 years. There really isn't any distinction between the extremes. The political spectrum isn't a straight line, it's a circle...and the key ingredient is balance. The balance has always been between management and labor, the rich and the poor.
When labor gets too much power, the people can vote themselves bread and circuses. Ask Rome, or any of the industries in America gutted by too much unionism. Industry and commerce becomes unsustainable.
When management - or the rich - get too much power, it becomes one of any innumerable number of iron-fisted autocracies the world has seen, from Nazi Germany to Fascist Italy and yes...even the Soviet Union. When there is no accountability to the people, the people invariably get abused.
Listening to some of you regressives rant about "libtards" like they're the enemies of the people is scary. The key is balance, the ability to listen to both sides...and recognize that we're all Americans here...and the political rhetoric and venom being spewed today is the real problem.
Back it up. Seriously. Or you and all the so-called "libtards" you seemingly despise so much - who comprise about 60% of America now by the math, and it's far worse than that among the young, the Republicans are doing an incredible job of alienating the Miliennial generation, not to mention blacks, gays, Hispanics, and anybody of non-white descent - are going to wind up with a serious problem on the street someday. And nobody wins that.
Nobody.
Well, except maybe Russia. And China. And North Korea. And Iran. And all the other bad actors who have suffered from our unassailable unity.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 5:27 PM
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Rat poison too
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 9:19 PM
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Yep that is why. Probably no other treason, I mean reason.
Funny you quoted Soviet leader Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev. Right?
Is hypocrisy invisible?
Also are they waving to say “Hey” or “Heil”?
Just curious about your World that we all have to live in.
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No response from the libs, just a thumbs down.***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:52 PM
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Re: No response from the libs, just a thumbs down.***
Jan 14, 2019, 4:04 PM
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No they just don’t want to converse with a grown man who calls others a “####”, that is assuming you’re a grown man ...
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1) It is football related 2) it’s his opninon and
Jan 14, 2019, 4:46 PM
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3) since when did TigerNet become the real estate of one ‘DaboistheOne?’
Don’t like the post, move along. Heck, downvote it. What’s with people trying to control the speech of others? I may not agree with 50% users on here but I’d never tell them keep their mouth closed unless they have something to say I like.
And before any further butthurt percolates, TigerNet felt it was good enough for a front page article, then it should be good enough for a post.
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Please do not bring politics onto this site
Jan 14, 2019, 12:48 PM
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suggesting that the president who cut my taxes had time to call Dabo midseason is ridiculous.
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Build the wall***
Jan 14, 2019, 12:53 PM
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Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 3:49 PM
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By enforcing immigration laws?
Jan 14, 2019, 4:00 PM
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Every country in Europe does it. Why can't we?
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 4:02 PM
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There is nothing racist about protecting your border...
#### like that is a part of the problem. Be a part of the solution...
You can argue the merits of the wall, the price versus effectiveness of the wall etc... but herp derp you're racist is just lazy and divisive. It is pathetic.
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 4:39 PM
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There is nothing racist about protecting your border...
#### like that is a part of the problem. Be a part of the solution...
You can argue the merits of the wall, the price versus effectiveness of the wall etc... but herp derp you're racist is just lazy and divisive. It is pathetic.
Okay, try this on then for size: a wall is stupid. It's an entirely symbolic waste of resources. Why? Because they have power tools in Mexico. They have ladders in Mexico. I promise you. A huge number of the Mexicans moving into the country are in construction...so it's not like these guys are incapable of, you know, tool usage. You can cut through that "steel slat" design with a $3.95 hacksaw you can pick up at Home Depot. Unless you wanna invest like 50+ billion in a manned, sturdy wall with guard dogs, a minefield, and searchlights - you know, kind of like the one that once divided East and West Berlin or the North and South Korean DMZ - it's useless. And the cartels are tunneling into the USA anyhow. It's one of the main way they move drugs into the country because it keeps them out of the open.
There are places, sure, where strategic fencing could be useful - the open area between Tijuana and San Diego has long been a common source of headaches to immigration control officers.
But the money would be largely be best spent on technology and personnel...especially infrared sensors for detecting live moving bodies, and flexible roving patrols who can be dispatched to the spots where they're needed. Also useful would be an array of seismic sensors that allows us to detect where we're being tunneled into.
A wall? Pointless. It throws money away and accomplishes nothing except providing Trump with a political victory...which is what this ultra-confrontational somebody-wins-and-somebody-loses mentality has gotten us: a government shut down, a population completely divided.
The compromise should be obvious: identify the spots where a wall would be genuinely useful, and build them there. For the wide open expanses of desert, the far better solution is a thermal sensor array and an increase in rapid-response border patrols.
You wanna actually accomplish the stated goal of curbing immigration without turning the USA into Fortress America, and give Congress something both sides could sign off on? There you go.
But no. One side has to win, the other side has to lose. And in the meantime, the government remains shuttered, 800,000 largely working-class people aren't being paid (and many of them are still having to work), and the country remains at one another's throats.
Which is ridiculous.
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Just make it an electric fence
Jan 14, 2019, 4:52 PM
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three fences 10 feet tall. The middle one is electrified. Lots of warnings on both sides.
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Re: Just make it an electric fence
Jan 14, 2019, 5:12 PM
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three fences 10 feet tall. The middle one is electrified. Lots of warnings on both sides.
And you're through with a pair of rubber-handled bolt cutters, and in less than two minutes. Only way for it to be effective is to mine the interior - with ceramic mines, or else somebody with a metal detector waltzes right through as well. Which nobody would allow to happen. Blowing people up at your border gets you talked about.
Again, the best kind of wall is an automated 24/7 ball-of-yarn overhead patrol by drones equipped with thermal sensors...and a lot of guys in Humvees who can zip to where they're needed.
But no, we're fixated on this wall. Across every inch of that 2,000-mile border. Whether it's actually useful or not.
And we're especially fixated on winning. Which is everybody's biggest thing right now.
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Re: Just make it an electric fence
Jan 14, 2019, 5:20 PM
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dunno man, they are pretty useful
prisons, airports, death valley
as part of a comprehensive plan, they are dang useful
takes more than a wall, but a physical barrier needs to be part of the equation
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 5:17 PM
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I’m no expert on the matter but I see no reason why everything you mentioned plus the wall would not be beneficial. Technology, the people to repair and upkeep them may wind up being more expensive over the long term. A wall is pretty low maintenance. It’s there and it doesn’t move. 5 billion is apparently a minuscule amount compared to other expenditures where we may have reaped little to no benefit. It does not have to be one or the other though you did say a wall in troublesome areas would be beneficial.
Personally, if I’m crossing a treacherous desert carrying supplies to stay hydrated and survive, the last thing I want to do is haul a 30+ foot ladder (that would probably weigh 40+ lbs) however many miles to try and pass a wall and risk falling three stories to my death to get down. It would not be like a hopping a fence. Have you seen Acosta’s video showing there is no crisis at the border as he walks around a fenced area of the border put in place where no border crossers have been spotted? What point was he trying to prove again? Lol.
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 6:23 PM
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Here's where Trump's incessant lying burns him. $5 billion doesn't come close to building an actual wall and he knows it...and the Democrats know it. But he's got people talking about it seriously like that's some kind of legit number.
Doubt it? Here's what Fox News has to say about that: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-border-wall-how-much-it-will-actually-cost-according-to-a-statistician
Five billion isn't a legit number, and Trump (probably) knows it. The Dems know it too, which is why they aren't budging, and for the same reason you never negotiate for a hostage. You pay up the first time, it just encourages somebody to take another one, so if they cave here he just threatens a shutdown anytime he doesn't get what he wants. The Republicans on the Hill know it too, and are afraid to call Trump on it for fear of being spit-roasted by his base...which he has helped whip into an unruly frenzy.
By the way, that does absolutely nothing for the other points of entry - by boat (which may see more people enter than border crossings), and the #1 way people get in (drum roll)...is with a legal visa, which they then overstay once they're in.
I have absolutely no problem with increasing border security. But this whole Fortress America thing people have in their heads is just not attainable without truly massive investment, which the Dems will never sign off on.
So what's wrong with, say, offering a $2.5 billion compromise, putting up fences and even walls where they'd be effective, and spending the rest on drones, dudes, and Hummers? Because $2.5 billion buys you a ton of drones, dudes, and Hummers. The Dems would sign off on it, security would be massively upgraded, and stuff would start rolling again...and that's called compromise, and how effective government actually works.
That is, if your point is to get something actually done. Which I am seriously starting to question.
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 9:37 PM
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I don’t think it’s a bad idea. Statistical data would need to be kept to determine the effectiveness of such measures before and after they’re implemented. I think strategically placed barriers to funnel border crossers into a narrowed space or toward inhospitable terrain would also be a possibility. The goal is to not only stop illegal immigration but to deter it from consideration.
Apparently 654 of the 1954 total miles have some sort of barrier between the countries as of right now. The 5 billion would be for 150 new miles of fencing and 65 miles worth of repairs to dilapidated areas. I don’t know the terrain well enough to know where natural barriers are already in place. It’s my understanding that the fencing would be placed strategically near cities where crossing are more frequent and easier due to their proximity to the border. Some 626,656 illegal immigrants were apprehended in 1986 around the San Diego area after attempting to cross under the cover of night. By 2015, that number is down to 30,000 in that area, largely attributed to the erection of the barrier.
I don’t know the details of Trumps proposal but according to this article I’ve cited throughout this post, there would be provisions set aside for immigration judges, more border patrol agents, detention beds, medical resources and technology. I’d want to know more about this tech as you have alluded to it potentially being more effective in some areas and I agree.
I see nothing wrong with your proposal, but I also see nothing wrong with the barrier and improving the aforementioned issues. I don’t think 5 billion was ever meant to cover coast to coast, even if that was Trump’s original intention.
There may be another side to the coin. You seem to have read up on more than I have...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-trump-plan-would-improve-current-border-situation%3f_amp=true
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Is it racist to keep my neighbor's dogs out of my yard?
Jan 14, 2019, 4:46 PM
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that's what my fence does
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TD all you want, I LOVE triggering cowards...Love pointing
Jan 14, 2019, 4:51 PM
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it out even more
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Re: Make America Racist Again***
Jan 14, 2019, 4:55 PM
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PLEASE OH WISE ONE WITH THE ###### HAT ON YOUR HEAD, PLEASE TELL EVERYONE WHAT IS WRONG WITH COMING TO THIS COUNTRY LEGALLY. WE NEED IMMIGRANTS. THANKS TO THE GUY YOU HATE SO MUCH WE NOW HAVE MORE JOBS THAN PEOPLE TO FILL THEM. SEEMS TO ME YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE GOOD LAW ABIDING CITIZENS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN MURDERS, GANG MEMBERS AND DRUG DEALERS. BUT HEY THAT IS JUST ME.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 2:03 PM
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I heard Trump was going to consult with Coach V on the best way to create an impenetrable defensive wall.
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 4:48 PM
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See, now this is a good post. Complimentary of our Tiger defense and Venables while mashing it with current issues without choosing a side and being a #### about it. Take some lessons people!
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 3:30 PM
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You know, today's world is sad. It is sad because a 15-0 Natty team board has to put up with political crap. It is sad because you can't escape political crap even at church anymore.
Please, for the love of Clemson and this wonderful team and coaches, stop posting political crap and enjoy the moment.
Go Tigers! FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, ...AND WIN!!
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 3:30 PM
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You know, today's world is sad. It is sad because a 15-0 Natty team board has to put up with political crap. It is sad because you can't escape political crap even at church anymore.
Please, for the love of Clemson and this wonderful team and coaches, stop posting political crap and enjoy the moment.
Go Tigers! FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, ...AND WIN!!
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Bet you think Andrew Jackson was a helluva dude too
Jan 14, 2019, 3:30 PM
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Can’t wait for the evidence to prove Trump takes his orders from Putin.
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Re: Bet you think Andrew Jackson was a helluva dude too
Jan 14, 2019, 3:32 PM
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You'll be waiting an infinite length of time. Get off this board with your political crap.
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Re: Bet you think Andrew Jackson was a helluva dude too
Jan 14, 2019, 4:51 PM
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UNITED WE STAND...DIVIDED WE FALL!
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Re: Rumor is Donald called Dabo to schedule this visit
Jan 14, 2019, 9:44 PM
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The only thing more moronic than this exchange is continuing it. Over and out.
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