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YOUR BALANCE
Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?
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Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?

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Feb 3, 2024, 8:32 PM
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Yes or no?

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Re: Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?

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Feb 3, 2024, 8:34 PM
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Uhh no, the fact that we have had to deal with this product on the floor for 14 years with no change is the unfair part

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No coot.

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Feb 3, 2024, 8:45 PM
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Next question.

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Re: Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?

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Feb 3, 2024, 8:46 PM
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It is unreasonable to expect competent coaching and better results with his best roster ever?

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No.

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Feb 3, 2024, 8:49 PM
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After 14 years, it’s time to move on

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Re: No.

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Feb 4, 2024, 10:41 PM
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BB has had ample time to bring the Clemson program to a higher level. It's pretty easy to see that the Tigers are on the same level they have been on for more than a decade. Another loss awaits at UNC this week. His pattern of coaching is beating up on cupcakes early in the year, and then going into conference play and he loses most of his remaining games. Go get an assistant coach from Kansas, a proven winning program. Hire him as your HC.

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Re: No.

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Feb 7, 2024, 12:32 AM
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Olemike, where are you tonight?

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hopefully smoking a turd in ####***

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Well, we can rule out it having been Bowlhunter's

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Mar 4, 2024, 10:54 PM
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Scok.

Mike could spell. I sure hate I missed Stubfreak not show at MM to get his wrinkled bag shattered by Mikey.

CM Shack®

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Re: Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?

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Feb 3, 2024, 9:02 PM
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No

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What is NO, for all the money, Alex.

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Feb 3, 2024, 10:23 PM
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:(

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No

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Feb 3, 2024, 10:43 PM
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I was at Littlejohn today for the first half and watched Brownell on the sidelines.

He was very quiet and stood back until he pointed to where a player should move in the floor. Another coach behind him on the bench was more reserved but sometimes appeared to be instructing the players on strategy.

So from my viewpoint, Brownell coaches specific movements in the floor - technical … but didn’t appear to be instructing the team regarding strategy and team play. That is what is lacking from Brownell IMO … a sound strategy and the ability to change and communicate that strategy in the moment when game conditions warrant it.

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So you are a Dabo critic but wonder if we're being too hard on Brad

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Feb 3, 2024, 11:59 PM
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Time to change your name to BradSaves.

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Yes.

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Feb 4, 2024, 12:02 AM
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I think it’s fine to want to see more success for our program, but these posts acting like he’s horrible or we are a bad team are ridiculous.

Some people need to get a grip. They clearly can’t be objective, they don’t understand our history, and they don’t seem to understand what top basketball programs are doing that we aren’t.

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Re: Yes.

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Feb 4, 2024, 12:04 AM
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Re: Yes.

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Feb 4, 2024, 3:39 AM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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Being 4-6 in the ACC with what was supposed to be Brad’s best team is just awesome.

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Youre delusional***

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Re: Yes.

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Feb 4, 2024, 10:31 AM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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Please be specific on what the top notch programs are doing that we are not, besides having more talented confident players in clutch situations and a dynamic coach who seems to never miss a thing. Is it NIL, facilities? Pizza giveaways? What’s the difference? We can change everything but history, Awhat do we do differently?

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Mar 4, 2024, 12:01 PM
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Those other programs are recruit superior talent: The Kentuckys, the Arizonas, the Dukes, UNCs are simply getting better players. Clemson needs a guy who can recruit.

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Re: Yes.

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:13 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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Looks like you have a LOW bar for success if you think repeated 18-13 seasons with NO NCAA Bid is successful in college basketball.

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No one said horrible. Painfully mediocre is more like it.

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:16 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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Yours is a false, delusional premise. You make things up.

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Re: Yes.

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:21 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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11th place in the ACC is awesome!

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Serious question.

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:22 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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How much are you being paid to be this obtuse?

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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No, Clemson is not a bad team. It is a completely average team with a mediocre coach. And what top basketball programs do is not tolerate mediocrity, certainly not for 14 seasons. Top basketball program replace an average coach with a much better coach.

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Mar 4, 2024, 1:21 PM [ in reply to Yes. ]
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Dabo says hello …jk!!

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No. 14 years is more than enough time

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Feb 4, 2024, 11:11 AM
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to establish your program. I am not a cbb hater. But I do believe the NCAA tourney is the best measure of success in college sports.Be one of the 68 or be gone!

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GoTiguhs!!


Re: Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?

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Feb 4, 2024, 9:52 PM
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BB has the best job in America, hands down. The pay, job security and benefits, being able to operate in the shadow and branding of the West Zone, most probably doing what he loves and not even have to work a day in his life, all of it.

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No, coot***

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No. Next question.***

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No

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:20 PM
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He’s been here for 14 years which is plenty for mediocre coaches.

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Are you suggesting that their expectation exceeds their appreciation?***

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:21 PM
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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


It's almost impossible not to have expectations exceed appreciation in

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Feb 5, 2024, 12:26 PM
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hoops at this point. Dabo's context was the historic success and championships he and the program have achieved and the method it took to accomplish that being disregarded by some when faced with adversity. CBB has accomplished nothing comparable for fans to appreciate.

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But, Judge Keller wants us to accept that just because we may not have a history

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Mar 4, 2024, 12:38 PM
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of success in roundball, we shouldn't expect to be better in the present and FUTURE. To which I say, HARUMMPH! All the past excuses about facilities, etc are old news now. It is time for this basketball staff to advance the program. If this is indeed Brown-L's best team, and I do believe it is, then nothing short of the Elite 8 would be an advancement.

Now, do I think we get there? Of course not. Neither does JK, he is already priming us with the injury excuse ahead of time. If injuries are our downfall right now, then we should be playing even HARDER to get that double bye, and the blessed rest that would come with it. We shall see what we shall see, I guess.

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Mar 5, 2024, 10:47 AM [ in reply to Are you suggesting that their expectation exceeds their appreciation?*** ]
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No Judge

The real reason this post is blowing up now is because Brad lost to another bottom feeder ACC team.


Dude the fact you believe anything will change is beyond me. The amount of hope and optimism you put into Brad is sad to see. He’s a great person in my opinion though.

Despite any accomplishments Brad has had, he has also become the longest tenured coach at Clemson. I would expect him to have the most wins if he was coaching for many more years than Cliff Ellis and others.


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Re: Are fans being too unfair to Brownell?


Mar 4, 2024, 12:15 PM
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No. Not just BB but any coach is subject to criticism. It comes with the territory.

I'm sure it just it just rolls off his back like water on a duck's back.

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Mar 4, 2024, 10:12 PM
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No

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Mar 5, 2024, 1:39 AM
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My wife loves to say “when someone shows you who they are, believe them.” The question you posed boils down to whether you believe he has shown the fans who he is.

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Mar 5, 2024, 2:04 AM
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no

this post actually makes me mad

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How can anyone


Mar 5, 2024, 8:09 AM
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Hate Brownell and love Trump OR Biden???????

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Not the same situation at all. Brown-L may be an inept basketball coach, but by

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Mar 5, 2024, 8:15 AM
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all accounts he is a pretty decent man. Trump and Biden are inept politicians, AND both are despicable hooman beans as well. It turns my stomach to think that, once again, as four years ago, this is the choice America is being given.

I ALMOST hope Trump wins, if for no other reason than it means he could never, ever, ever run for President again. Biden is so old, he will never run again no matter what, if he is even still alive four years from now, which is far from a given.

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Absolutely NOt


Mar 5, 2024, 8:24 AM
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14 years, virtually nothing to be proud of. We know what he can and cannot do. To expect more now is simply dreaming and wishing.

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Mar 5, 2024, 8:24 AM
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No no and no

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