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Apples to oranges comparison...
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Aug 4, 2023, 11:12 PM
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...PAC12 GOR is set to expire in 2025 with their only current offer being about $20 million per team from Apple streaming (which was made before the most recent defections). And Apple will surely pull that offer off the table now. We are locked in (for better or much worse) until 2036 with no apparent legal way out.
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Game Changer [1987]
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
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Aug 5, 2023, 6:32 AM
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ACC is screwed. Clemson on the other hand, is not.
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
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The ESPN GOR is a paper dragon. When the time comes it will not matter. Period. The only people who still think the GOR is "ironclad etc" are the schools in the ACC that have no options, and the ACC itself. To say Clemson and FSU are stuck till 2036 is a ridiculous thing to say at this point.
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
Aug 5, 2023, 10:54 AM
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Yes it will.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
Aug 5, 2023, 1:24 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but they are paid millions each year to break "ironclad" agreements. Do you really think there is no way out of this? Do you think that ESPN (because that is who owns the rights) made a contract so tight that there is no way anyone could ever challenge it? That would be the first time in history. Don't believe the hype. Let's put is this way. I would bet my farm Clemson is out of the ACC in five years. I will bet my livestock they are out in less than three.
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Aug 5, 2023, 2:43 PM
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I am not a Lawyer either. But when contracts are broken, there are settlements for damage. There are at least 7 teams left in the ACC that I believe would have a legitimate claim against ESPN, and ACC schools that left, etc. if our conference deal is 30 mil per school per year through 2036, those 7 schools would be out 310 mil each. Collectively that’s Billions of dollars. who pays that?
The other part of the coin is why would ESPN voluntarily pay more for Clemson and FSU when they already have them under contract? The current SEC schools will not take less to add us. ESPN could dump the ACC deal completely to shed cost. But again, then you have x schools with a claim against ESPN for damages. why would they upset the current situation for that.
It’s fun to speculate on different scenarios. But my take is for Clemson to get more money, others get less. The Wake Forests, BCs, Syracuse teams have their golden ticket and are not going to let go. Atleast without getting a payout. Where is the money coming from? That’s why I think Clemson , FSU, UNC, Miami, are stuck.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
Aug 5, 2023, 4:53 PM
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Good points. No doubt Duke, Wake, Ga Tech, Syracuse and the rest are already crying foul regarding FSU possibly leaving because without them and us potentially, they know they are up a creek. The SEC will expand now that the Big 10 has added Washington and Oregon, and when they do FSU and Clemson are the top of that list. Under that scenario ESPN will still be getting the TV money so nothing would be lost. As to your point of the others crying foul, yes they will and they will stamp and scream that they put athletes first yada yada.. which we know is bs they just can't get a deal because they are awful. All of this to say who knows, but I believe anyone who hangs their hat on an "unbreakable" contract will go down with the "unsinkable" ship.
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Re: Apples to oranges comparison...
Aug 6, 2023, 9:49 AM
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The other poster didn't say anything about it being unbreakable. You could break it today if you wanted. It would be too costly to do it, is the problem.
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All those years of the NC schools sucking at football
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finally caught up to them. Well done, research triangle.
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Is a conference willing to pay our exit fee?
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If not then we are not going anywhere.
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