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Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

Aug 6, 2023, 2:38 PM

left out, I know that by the time this realignment scenario completely plays out, Clemson will most certainly end up in the Big or SEC. Just how many years will go by before Clemson joins one of those leagues is hard to tell and will be based on a number of factors such as finding a way out of the GOR (sooner), or enough time passing that the GOR becomes not as expensive (much later), the SEC contract coming up for renegotiation with ESPN (2026), the BIG decision to expand again.

One thing that all of the pundits agree on, including Dabo is that there will be super conferences with about 56 teams total. I guess now that will include the BIG, the SEC and to a smaller extent the Big12.

I would imagine the maximum the BIG and SEC will end up with will be 24 teams each, if that. But it appears that they will each go to 20 at least, even though both claim they are done for now.

I was listening to Dennis Dodd, Luginbill and Barrett Sailee on satellite radio this morning and they seem to thing that for all of FSU's bluster this week, they are limited in what they can do at this time. They do not have a landing spot, plus they have to deal with the GOR. They speculated that this institutional loan is of great interest and could be the answer, but were not sure.

It seems that FSU's best chance out may be the
1. Loan and write a check
2. Breakup of the ACC (still don't know if they need a simple majority to leave, or more than that)

The three also believe that the new 12-team cfp will be reorganized in 2026 at the renewal date. They all agreed that it will become simply twelve best teams in. No automatic bids per league and they believe the BIG and SEC will likely get up to four teams each. They expect the two leagues to also redo the playoff money allotment per league.

So why can't Clemson just make it work like we always have? All of the above plus pay for play is coming. The money difference along with the prestige perception will just be too much to overcome.

I think FSU has really said a lot in the last week and personally believe they do have a way out. I don't think they would have been so vocal otherwise. I think they could announce by August 15 of this year, but it is much more likely they announce they are leaving by August 15 of next year. And when they announce, they would have already made clear that their legal issues are done and will have an invite from either the SEC or BIG.

Once the above happens, the flood gates of ACC exits will occur. Where will we find a home? Here is what I see as the preference of the big two at that time, should they expand. Here goes:

SEC at 16 now, further expansion preferences are likely as follows
17. UNC or NC State to get the state of NC
18. UVA or Va Tech to get the state of VA
19. Florida State to keep big out of Florida and a power program
20. Clemson to get another big ratings school and football power
21. Miami to secure south Florida and keep the big out.
22. West Virginia has SEC atmosphere and puts SEC right at Big doorstep
23. ?
24. ?

BIG now at 18, preferences likely as follows:
19. UNC or NC State to get the state of NC
20. UVA or Va Tech to get the state of VA
21. FSU to into the state of Florida and get another football power and 4 million viewers
21. Georgia Tech academics and plant flag in Atlanta
22. Clemson to get another football power and a 4 million viewer program.
22. Duke to go along with UNC and academics
23. Syracuse to get the state of NY and solidify the northeast
24. ?

So I don't think we will get left out when the music stops, but it might take a while. Something like 2026 to 2028. I think the SEC will have to go to 20 teams for us to get in and the BIG will have to go to 24 for us to get in there. My preference is the BIG.

Yes, Notre Dame would be top preference on all list and push everyone down a spot.
Yes, I know the tv model doesn't call for wanting a new state like 2011, but still the SEC and Big will want those two states of NC and VA in their footprint, especially the SEC.

For us to get in, it is going to take at least 20 teams in the big two and everyone seems to agree it they will go that big. It is going to take anywhere from three to five years to happen and will make a 20-team league in SEC, but BIG will have to go 24 for us to get in. I'm glad our administration is not making a lot of noise like FSU if we are actually working on something. If we are not being as diligent as FSU regarding finding a way out, then that is unforgivable. Even though we are quiet at this time, it is in our best interest if FSU is successful at getting out.

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With this whole notion that the top ~56 football teams will break away, why do the scrub teams that just happen to be in the B1G or SEC get to be part of that? Shouldn't it be the best 56 football programs in the country?

Why is Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, and Minnesota from the B1G automatically in the big boy club just because they happen to have the good fortune to be members of the B1G?

What about Vanderbilt, Missouri, Mississippi State, and South Carolina from the SEC? They get to continue to ride the conference coattails?

If you are going go to a new breakout top 56 teams league, it seems to me the better option would be to pick the top 56 programs regardless of current conference.

Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

I syndicated show on an ATL station was saying vA and UNC are more attract oe

There is an academiv snob factor to conference admittance

Re: I syndicated show on an ATL station was saying vA and UNC are more attract oe

Re: I syndicated show on an ATL station was saying vA and UNC are more attract oe

Re: Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

Thinks we'll read this, lol.***

I didn't expect you to read it. I

No one questioned anyone's ability to read it, professor.

Didn't you quit the team?

You need help

Sorry, maybe this wasn't you...

Re: Sorry, maybe this wasn't you...

It was too good to be true, apparently.

Re: Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

I just mentioned possibilities and orders of

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on-field, not on filed.***

Re: Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

I somewhat agree, but I'm

Re: I somewhat agree, but I'm

Clemson Football will be fine

Re: Clemson Football will be fine

Re: Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

Re: Although I have some concerns of Clemson being

Yep!! Football for this new league will be pulled out

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