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Ahh, the slippery slope.
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Ahh, the slippery slope.

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Jun 25, 2023, 10:47 AM

So first you mandate electric vehicles. Eventually people stary buying them. Oh no, a problem!!! If they're not fueling up with gas, then we're not getting our tax money. Solution? Oh yeah, here, install this GPS on your vehicle so we can track you.......'re mileage, yeah. This way we can tax you by the mile. Nevermind we will know your location, places you go, businesses you visit, your religion, your property locations, where you work. Oh, and maybe some day, they can use the tracking device to mail you traffic tickets for driving too fast, or skipping a red light, or rolling through a stop sign. Yeah!!!

Oregon....smh.

https://apnews.com/article/gas-tax-highway-maintenance-mileage-user-fees-15abaae7e6097946f900e87be95214e1


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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.

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Jun 25, 2023, 10:49 AM



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drunk at the putt putt.


Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.


Jun 25, 2023, 10:54 AM

The Man always trying to keep us down to never get ahead.

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Humm......

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Jun 25, 2023, 11:38 AM

Whose scok? Any P&R guise recently banned?

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Re: Humm......


Jun 25, 2023, 2:38 PM

I’m thinking the same.

Both the new guy and the recently banned guy exhibit a high level of sensitivity to criticism of authoritarian type controls that are initiated by leftist government entities.

Both realize that a cogent defense of leftist authoritarianism is impossible; therefore they deploy mockery as their tactic to defend their leftist authoritarian leaders.

Quacking like a duck …

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Re: Humm......


Jun 25, 2023, 2:44 PM

I was being serious but just being light hearted about it. They are always trying to find a new source of income from us, but life is hard enough as is for most. They make it harder to get ahead.

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This is 125% Carlsbad.***

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:48 PM



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Re: This is 125% Carlsbad.***

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:53 PM

Agreed

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only a matter of time for him to get drunk

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Jun 25, 2023, 4:19 PM

and start calling everyone that disagrees with him names

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recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.

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Jun 25, 2023, 10:58 AM

dude had a sticker that said, "I'm not a Democrat".

Isn't that the state that the conservative rural half wants to secede?

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Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.

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Jun 25, 2023, 12:21 PM

Yep can’t blame them.

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Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.

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Jun 25, 2023, 1:35 PM [ in reply to recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag. ]

Sparsely populated counties want to join Idaho. It's not many people, but they would deserve the degradation in education, medical care, and everything else that goes with living in a poor red state.

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Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.

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Jun 25, 2023, 2:41 PM

LOL!!! Sure.

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Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.


Jun 25, 2023, 2:52 PM [ in reply to Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag. ]

Yes indeed.

Medical care advantages: Secession from the State of Oregon would deny the Eastern Oregonians the medical wonders of street access to fentanyl. Lucky Western Oregonians would have all the fentanyl for themselves.

Educational advantages: Math and reading proficiency test scores are declining in Blue States. Woke education initiatives are emphasizing social aspects at the expense of de emphasizing math and language skills. Western Oregon should be pleased that state funding for woke education practices will go entirely to Western Oregon’s kids. Good luck with that.

(?). Why is Western Oregon so vociferously opposed to Eastern Oregon becoming part of Idaho? Sentiments from Eastern Oregonians continue to trend towards a preference from leaving Oregon and joining Idaho. Isn’t Eastern Oregon populated with ‘deplorables’ who ‘cling to their Bibles and guns’?

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Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag.

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag. ]

Archie, if living in a red state sucks so bad please tell your blue state buddies. They must not know because they keep showing up here in droves. You can save them the trouble by warning them. You can save us the trouble of having their moron selves here also.

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Idaho has higher test scores than Oregon

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag. ]

California used to be one of the top States, now they are near the bottom.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?chort=2&sub=MAT&sj=AL&sfj=NP&st=MN&year=2022R3

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57% lol***


Jun 25, 2023, 6:13 PM [ in reply to Re: recently I was behind a Prius with an Oregon tag. ]



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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.

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Jun 25, 2023, 11:13 AM

I take it you do not own a cell phone.

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That data does not go to the government without a warrant

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Jun 25, 2023, 11:36 AM

It goes to data brokers, and Google, etc. But if the government wants that data (with identifying information), they have to request it, and show probable cause. If they're tracking every vehicle to track mileage, and that's connected (obviously) to you, then yeah, that's a bad thing.

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I think the point is that those companies know way more...

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Jun 25, 2023, 5:42 PM

about you than this would even provide. People know that and don't care so I doubt you'll see the privacy concerns here actually affect adoption. The fact it's another tax will be a much stronger deterrant to adoption than privacy concerns, imo.

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Re: That data does not go to the government without a warrant


Jun 26, 2023, 3:47 AM [ in reply to That data does not go to the government without a warrant ]

yeah, we are on the same page, I am just saying that we already done slid down that slope with cell phones and laptops. If I speed in my car, or my commute suddenly jumps to 30 miles, my insurance company does not give me that sweet discount I signed up for with their app. google maps is always tracking your location, mostly for traffic reports, telling you how long it will take to get to a destination based on said traffic, alternative routes, etc.. which certainly can be used against you with a warrant. But this data could just as well be used as an alibi if you were charged with a crime, especially if your phone also accepts biometric data to verify that it is, in fact, you in possession of the said phone, like the geniuses that took theirs into the capital building on Jan 6.


Now as far as the federal government using tracking, yeah, I see your concern, being the amount of gas you purchase should be sufficient for calculating your tax. it appears a solution in search of a problem.

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You're a terrible hippie. What ever happened to not being

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Jun 25, 2023, 11:42 AM [ in reply to Re: Ahh, the slippery slope. ]

going along with The Man?

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drunk at the putt putt.


Re: You're a terrible hippie. What ever happened to not being


Jun 25, 2023, 9:39 PM

They’re big pharma/gov now

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You beat me to it, but I figured I'd supply some numbers.***


Jun 25, 2023, 5:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Ahh, the slippery slope. ]



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Tax the car chargers***

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Jun 25, 2023, 11:53 AM



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Turn off your phone if you don’t want to be tracked.


Jun 25, 2023, 11:55 AM

Also stay off the Internet especially any searches and don’t buy anything on your credit cards.

But yea, no thanks on tracking miles driven.

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Georgia has a flat tax for EVs

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Jun 25, 2023, 12:10 PM

All-electric vehicles are subject to an annual licensing fee of $316.40 for commercial vehicles and $210.87 for non-commercial vehicles.

Many states do this instead of tracking mileage.

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Mucccccccch better.***

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Jun 25, 2023, 12:12 PM



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drunk at the putt putt.


Most do.***


Jun 26, 2023, 6:28 AM [ in reply to Georgia has a flat tax for EVs ]



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Very much opposed to this.***

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Jun 25, 2023, 12:40 PM



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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.


Jun 25, 2023, 1:36 PM

Alternative is to tax everybody, whether they drive or not. The gas tax system was supposed to be fair, the people who use the highways pay for them.

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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.

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Jun 25, 2023, 6:15 PM

Taxation should be done at the time of recharging the battery.

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just make it a law that they can't use the information for

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Jun 25, 2023, 1:51 PM

anything other than taxing you, problem solved.

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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.


Jun 25, 2023, 2:47 PM

just tax tires. $500 per tire.

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Jun 25, 2023, 2:50 PM

They are taxed, then taxed again when disposed of. There is nothing left to be taxed.

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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.


Jun 25, 2023, 2:54 PM

Roads and bridges cost money.

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This should have built a couple of bridges

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:16 PM

but somehow it hasn’t. It’s only $1T though.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055841358/biden-signs-1t-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-into-law

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Re: This should have built a couple of bridges

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Jun 25, 2023, 4:40 PM

Prove to us that the Infrastructure bill has been a catastrophic failure. We will wait, but we know you will fail to deliver.



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Prove that it worked.***

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Jun 25, 2023, 5:19 PM



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Your Google search not bearing fruit?

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Jun 25, 2023, 6:06 PM



And don't you have me on ignore? You're as bad as T3. LOL

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I like this in theory, but the unintended consequence is

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Jun 25, 2023, 2:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Ahh, the slippery slope. ]

people driving on bald tires to put off the tax hit as long as possible.

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People are riding on bald tires now to afford groceries

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Jun 25, 2023, 3:56 PM

Go Brandon!!!

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Re: People are riding on bald tires now to afford groceries

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Jun 25, 2023, 8:32 PM

That’s straight up truth. I don’t know how many people are making it now. But here’s a great idea for the ones struggling, just go vote democrat again. It’s working so well for you now.

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One thing...


Jun 25, 2023, 5:37 PM

"Nevermind we will know your location, places you go, businesses you visit, your religion, your property locations, where you work."




https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/


"The vast majority of Americans – 97% – now own a cellphone of some kind. The share of Americans that own a smartphone is now 85%"

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Re: Ahh, the slippery slope.

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Jun 25, 2023, 7:52 PM

Hate to tell you but your movements are all being tracked and can be chronicled already. It might be within 400-1000 meters, but close enough. And lol at turning off your location services. No bueno bud.

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The built-in batteries screwed a whole bunch of

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Jun 25, 2023, 8:03 PM

Hoppers.

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Not good and the libbies keep

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Jun 25, 2023, 8:19 PM

their heads buried not worrying about it. Of course the democrats and big brother would love to have a reason to track everyone all the time.

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