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Rock Defender [54]
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So Fox gave Tucker the boot but
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Either way, after his texts I have no clue how he has
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110%er [7159]
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Carlson has great following among the intellectually curious
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Tucker’s historical format had frequently featured guests with whom Tucker would either tend to agree or disagree.
There was no ‘requirement’ for either 100% agreement or disagreement between Tucker and his guest.
Tucker never ‘cut the mic’ when a guest was making a cogent argument against Tucker’s point of view.
(*). To viewers with enough curiosity to listen in on an open argument opinion show, Tucker enjoyed a large audience.
(*). For lefties to whom it was patently obvious that neither Tucker’s guest nor the viewing lefty himself could put forth a credible counter argument, their last lifeboat was to label Tucker as a propagator misinformation who needed to be cancelled.
(*). In other words, the T.Carlson audience possessed greater intellectual curiosity than that of the hoard of lefty Carlson haters.
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Re: Carlson has great following among the intellectually curious
Jun 15, 2023, 4:30 PM
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> Carlson has great following among the intellectually curious
lol, just no.
Your response isn't even what i'm talking about. The dude said one thing for 4 years and then said the opposite in private. He's a paid liar.
There is zero reason to listen to him.
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Re: Carlson has great following among the intellectually curious
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Jun 15, 2023, 9:15 PM
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Assume you’re referencing Carlson’s personal dislike of Trump.
Son, there is a world of difference between personal dislike and publicly recognizing that that same disliked person does not deserve to be unfairly persecuted.
This characteristic of Tucker Carlson is akin to a famous quote which Voltaire famously uttered:
“Voltaire’s tolerance finds its highest expression in the famous sentence of his letter to Helvetius: “I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.”
You are confusing Carlson’s principles with lying. You couldn’t possibly be more wrong.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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He said he hates the man.
Jun 16, 2023, 9:22 AM
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He's a liar.
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The epic fight for LBB and Miura.***
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Re: The epic fight for LBB and Miura.***
Jun 15, 2023, 1:46 PM
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Sorry for the accidental TD
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They're competing for the same finite slice of
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gullible old people who consume fearporn like they're getting paid for it.
For example, how many people have spent the last two days being terrified of Trantifa? I mean, "experts" said it, so it HAS to be true.
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Those kids
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murdered at Covenant school aren't living in fear.
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My understanding is that they are still paying him through
Jun 15, 2023, 1:23 PM
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2024 per his contract. And since they're paying him there is a no compete of some sort in place. But I also don't think that issues like this don't hold up well in court.
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
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Megyns trying to get eyeballs, too***
Jun 15, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Re: Megyns trying to get eyeballs, too***
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
Jun 15, 2023, 2:00 PM
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I’m surprised they fear a Twitter broadcast if that’s true. Is this the way of the future? How much could he make with that in comparison?
I'm sorry you don't understand this better.
They are still paying him, so they don't expect him to compete with them in any way, shape, or form.
It is pretty similar to things that happen in the sports world all of the time.
There is no "fear" involved. (It's like the conservative mentality has to be about people getting "owned.") In Formula 1 it would be called "gardening leave" - we're paying you and you can start with the other guys when your contract runs out.
I'm sure if he wants to give up his remaining salary, whatever it may be (surely a lot), they can try to negotiate something. If he doesn't want to do that, he should probably just sit on his hands and collect his money. And if a huge dollar opportunity comes his way, he can have his agent call Fox.
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
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The lefties worry about Carlson because they need for him to be cancelled. They want him to become penniless and die. Consolation prize would be for him to be rich, but off the air. Doomsday scenario is for him to remain active on air and wealthy enough to sustain himself while waiting for his Twitter platform show to make him wealthier than ever.
Lefties recognize that they are intellectually incapable of successfully coming up with rational arguments to defeat Carlson.
Their dubiously packed parachute is to scream “misinformation” and attempt to socially shame Tucker’s audience to not watch him.
Alas, the bouquets of flowers with which Carlson haters had lined the streets upon his being fired have all wilted.
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How ####### dumb.
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He was booted from FOX for straight up LYING to his viewers, and left FOX on the hook for almost a BILLION dollars. "incapable of coming up with rational arguments to defeat Carlson", indeed.
Do better, RTD.
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Re: How ####### dumb. How ignorant
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You too?
Are you also referencing Carlson’s private disdain of Trump, coupled with his on-air defense of Trump, as being the act of lying?
Voltaire used a famous line that expressed how protecting a person with whom he disagreed; this generous philosophy is completely unrelated to lying.
“Voltaire’s tolerance finds its highest expression in the famous sentence of his letter to Helvetius: “I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.”
An honorable person can despise another person and yet find it abhorrent that the other person is being unfairly persecuted.
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Re: How ####### dumb. How ignorant
Jun 16, 2023, 9:20 AM
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I was just thinking about how Tucker Carlson is basically the Voltaire of our time.
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Pretzel logic.***
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Yup, only pretzel logic can use Voltaire to defend Tucker***
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Using a Voltaire quote doesn't equate to Voltaire=Tucker.***
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Correct, and I never said that it did.
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I was talking about using the wisdom of Voltaire to explain Tucker's conduct, which is downright silly.
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
Jun 15, 2023, 5:23 PM
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Clearly you don't understand this fine.
"How can you fire someone and they’re still under contract?"
He's getting paid. I know you read in this thread for the first time that non-competes don't generally hold up in court. That is when someone is not being compensated. But that is not the issue here, because he is being paid. He is technically still an employee, but not on the air.
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Re: My understanding is that they are still paying him through
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honest question, but why don't they hold up well?
Jun 15, 2023, 1:33 PM
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I'm no lawyer by any stretch, and i've never had a non-compete clause that I'm aware of in my career, so i'm completely ignorant about them.
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I had one in 2001 and violated it.
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A Lounge lawyer reviewed it and told me I had nothing to worry about. Was served papers, but nothing happened beyond that.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Similar situation.
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I was working at a VAR in town and got a better job contracting somewhere else. I had signed a non-compete as a required part of being hired.
A few weeks after I quit, I randomly ran into my old boss at a bar across town, words were shared and I ended up getting into a fight with my old boss. The next week I got a phone call from an attorney telling me I need to get representation as I was being sued over the non-compete.
I nicely explained to the fine attorney that I didn't own anything and had no money (I didn't..I was right out of college), I was working somewhere my old company wasn't even allowed in (his contracting org had been asked to leave months earlier), and that they should probably just drop the whole thing.
Then I mentioned the blows that were traded with my old boss, and that I had several witnesses and the bouncer who saw everything go down, and that he may want to inform my old boss about that before
continuing to threaten me.
Basically, the lawyer hung up on me and I never heard another word about it.
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Re: Similar situation.
Jun 15, 2023, 2:26 PM
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Dang … a real rock’n’roll with the ex-boss.
Either of you land a solid lick?
Since your ex-boss seemed to be the maddest, I’m guessing that you got the better of him.
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Re: Similar situation.
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I landed one to the face after he pushed me and took a drunken swing and missed, then the bouncer threw us both out.
I hop his face hurt as much as my hand did the next day.
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Re: Similar situation.
Jun 15, 2023, 9:23 PM
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Quite a story!
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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The company that brings the suit has to prove damages.
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They have to prove that if an employee went to work for someone else, they caused you monetary damages. Sometimes, like in sales, and the employee takes their client list with them and poaches their customers that m ight be possible. I worked in TV years ago and saw the station I worked at try and sue one of the talent for going to another station across town. Oddly, my station had fired that person, so nothing came from it.
Normally, the company that makes employees sign non-competes attempt to make it legal retribution for the employee leaving. In order to have a valid suit, they have to prove, overwhelmingly, the employee leaving and working somewhere else actually caused them damages--and that's the hard part.
What I found out while dealing with mine is that once a company, or individual tries to make it personal, that's where they get into trouble.
Simply put--you can't keep someone from working just because they aren't working for you. And judges tend to frown on trying to do that sort of thing.
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Some of that and also the they are generally seen as...
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limiting competition and/or restricting the rights of an individual to work...both are concepts strongly protected by the courts.
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Re: Some of that and also the they are generally seen as...
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The small company I was working for was approached by
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a company we had a business relationship with about writing some software. My boss turned them down. I was the only programmer and would have been the one to complete the work. So I contacted them and said I'd write the software for them and took the job.
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I got lunch there yesterday
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Was pretty good, and freaky fast.
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Re: non-competes don't hold up well...
Jun 15, 2023, 2:40 PM
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Carlson’s legal team could settle by telling FoxNews to keep their $20MM in severance money.
Then FoxNews would have misfired their final bullet to keep Carlson off the air.
(?). Might FoxNews sweeten their severance offer (say, to $50MM) with the stipulation that Carlson agrees to stay off social media through end of 2024?
I could see that happen (I.e., something like this as FoxNews’ next negotiation tactic). Regardless of whether or not Carlson gets silenced, the downward trail towards irrelevance of FoxNews has gotten steeper.
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Question...do you watch/like Carlson?***
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Assuming it's a noncompete agreement,
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it's because noncompetes survive termination of employment.
(I don't know if he agreed to a noncompete.)
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
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company dropped it.
Signing it was forced on us after we were employed--and basically no one knew that we had voluntarily accepted it by going to work for the new company that bought us.
My understanding was it went before a federal court in TN, and eventually, the whole thing just went away. I assumed our pursuing company got tired of chasing it, but I can't confirm that.
I know it got pretty nasty though, and had he had recordings of what HR told him verbally..he'd prob never have to work again.
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
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non-competes are pretty difficult to enforce. In the case of the average Joe, few companies can justify legal action costs versus return.
But, in Fox' case, maybe they can.
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
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This type is easy to enforce. They just stop paying him and sue for what they paid after termination (compensation for real damages) and forget about punitive compensation. Hard to believe he can make any money off of twitter or spotify - the deadbeat trash who listen to him aren't going to send him more than a few packets of meth.
As long as the twitter thing is close enough to what he agreed not to do, the foxes are in decent shape.
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
Jun 15, 2023, 10:53 PM
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I'm guessing you haven't worked in the media.
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
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Re: A coworker got into that and eventually our pursuing
Jun 16, 2023, 8:29 AM
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He’s being paid the same as when he was on air through the end of his contract in 2025. He’s bad, but there are worse people who would be feeding his mindless viewers conspiracy theories and other disinformation in his absense.
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They already fired Dan Bongino***
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They didn’t fire him.
Jun 16, 2023, 10:16 AM
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They just canceled his show. He’s still under contact apparently. He’s now claiming that’s a breach of contract.
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