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Rival Killer [3059]
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40+ lungers, GITT. Politics question
Jun 30, 2025, 1:57 PM
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I didn't follow politics closely until the turn of the century. Those with a longer duration of experience, has politics ever been as divisive as it is now? In my opinion it ramped up in the mid to late 2000's and is outrageous now.
I often just want to relax and enjoy comments/the internet etc. but there are political bros from both sides in otherwise non-political areas spouting their hatred/resistance/intolerance of the other side CONSTANTLY.
Trying to keep this neutral, just curious other's thoughts. Seems impossible to have political discourse anymore without ad hominem attacks, etc.
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Tiger Titan [49326]
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No, it wasn't
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:02 PM
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You first saw it emerge, IMO, during the Clinton blow job scandal. 9/11 threw the gas on it. Suddenly everyone wanted to argue over who was the better Americans. The hostility on this board started mainly after that and the build up to the Iraq war. The hostile chickenhawks have since run away and been replaced with these completely nuts MAGAs.
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CU Guru [1507]
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Re: No, it wasn't
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:23 PM
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You first saw it emerge, IMO, during the Clinton blow job scandal. 9/11 threw the gas on it. Suddenly everyone wanted to argue over who was the better Americans. The hostility on this board started mainly after that and the build up to the Iraq war. The hostile chickenhawks have since run away and been replaced with these completely nuts MAGAs.
Said by someone who appears to be the poster boy for intolerance of different opinions
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TigerNet Icon [154880]
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Said by somebody who
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:27 PM
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shut up, dope.
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CU Guru [1507]
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Re: Said by somebody who
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:17 PM
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shut up, dope.
Proving the point/trashing anybody who has a different opinion
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CU Guru [1507]
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Re: Said by somebody who
Jun 30, 2025, 3:17 PM
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shut up, dope.
Proving the point/trashing anybody who has a different opinion
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Tiger Titan [49326]
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You've never contributed an ounce of discussion to this board
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Jul 1, 2025, 1:05 PM
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Just dumb, lurking comments.
This board used to be a place for discussion. People like you, Keowee, NC_Tiger, Rangers, etc., ruined it, so yeah, it's just us telling you how stupid you are.
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Top TigerNet [30682]
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ITT
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:11 PM
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a buncha old fuggs
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Hall of Famer [8399]
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Re: 40+ lungers, GITT. Politics question
Jun 30, 2025, 2:13 PM
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Yes it has. Go back and read about some of the things that were said and done by politicians to each other all the way back at the founding of this country. It will make your toes curl. I would say the average Joe is probably more immersed in political debates that at many times in the past as our relatively leisurely modern lifestyle accompanied with the internet make it pretty easy for most of us to pop off online about politics with minimal effort. The easiest way to deal with that however is to avoid sites that get too political for your tastes, which is usually pretty easy to do because you aren't going to find much, if any, political discourse online that isn't combative.
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Valley Legend [13086]
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Re: 40+ lungers, GITT. Politics question
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:19 PM
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it took the internet to show us how far apart we are
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Rival Killer [3059]
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I understand what you're saying, I just have a hard time believing
Jun 30, 2025, 2:25 PM
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there was always SUCH A HUGE GAP.
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Orange Elite [5437]
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Politics has always been cutthroat - social media and message boards just
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:26 PM
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make it seem worse. Most people wouldn't talk politics in person, but it's a whole lot easier for them to spout whatever ######## they believe in this week on social media...
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Oculus Spirit [42427]
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TigerNet Icon [154880]
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Don't worry, we still have Keowee
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:30 PM
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being a giant pussy and pretending not to know what a scok is.
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Offensive Star [305]
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That dude slayed.***
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:13 PM
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TigerNet Icon [154880]
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I bet you're a wet gash in real life, too.***
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [35323]
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As far as idiots go....
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:34 PM
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he was a big one!
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Standout [241]
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Valley Legend [13086]
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Re: All I know is this bored is way better without
Jun 30, 2025, 3:11 PM
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i think he is taking a break
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Clemson Conqueror [11440]
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Back in the day
Jun 30, 2025, 2:38 PM
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We shot protesters at Kent State in the 70s
Reagan was the devil or Hitler and they shot him
Clinton and Monica made the hatred spew
Been pretty consistent in my lifetime
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Rival Killer [3059]
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Good thoughts. thanks. Seems the internet is largely to blame
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Jun 30, 2025, 2:47 PM
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for the appearance of it being worse nowadays
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109636]
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Politics have always been divisive. Not much has changed on that front.
Jun 30, 2025, 2:59 PM
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The problem we have today is politics doesn't solve our biggest problems. We have a broken government and we're too busy playing politics and pointing fingers to actually fix it.
You can elect just about any flavor of dem, or pub, and you will get more debt, higher deficits, plenty of immigrants, and a ballooning debt problem, ever expanding, never contracting.
So anyway.......soon politics won't matter. They matter in well-run/functioning governments. They're practically irrelevant in broken governments.
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Valley Legend [13086]
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Re: Politics have always been divisive. Not much has changed on that front.
Jun 30, 2025, 3:11 PM
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cant be fixed, our system only works when the majority is honest
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Hall of Famer [8209]
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I'm old enough to remember Rush Limbaugh.
Jun 30, 2025, 3:12 PM
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but there's more exposure to it now: social media, 24 hour news cycle, forever campaigns, etc. etc.
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Rival Killer [3059]
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If nothing else, it was a lot more simple back in the day to determine
Jun 30, 2025, 3:22 PM
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if a candidate was worthy or being president. Or put in a different way, one small mistake could doom a candidacy whereas that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Remember Howard Dean? LOL
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Hall of Famer [8399]
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Re: If nothing else, it was a lot more simple back in the day to determine
Jun 30, 2025, 3:39 PM
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Heck we all thought Biden was done when he had that plagiarism scandal in the 80s and had to drop out of his run for the presidency. That seems positively quaint these days, especially when most college students are using AI to do all of their work.
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All-Time Great [91585]
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Rush probably started the "new" division.
Jul 1, 2025, 1:02 PM
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If he didn't start it, he certainly made it worse.
I remember listening to him and his outlandish convoluted theories why someone did something, and I was like "WT F is this guy even talking about?"
He was 3x divorced loser who was fired from every radio job he ever had (except his last one) when he found an audience by making middle America angry by convincing them they were always a victim and that someone was always against them.
It's a strategy that race baiters had already been using for a while; he just applied it to a different demographic.
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Tiger Titan [49203]
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meh, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson didnt speak to each other for like
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:39 PM
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20 years because of politics - including becuase of TJ's fake news media endeavors
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Clemson Conqueror [11440]
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Yeah but
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:52 PM
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Burr and Hamilton were able to settle their differences
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Re: Yeah but
Jul 1, 2025, 7:59 AM
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shoot, I never thought of it like that. 
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Paw Master [16521]
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The people who I encounter in real life are the same as always.
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Jun 30, 2025, 3:50 PM
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The divisiveness is largely social media stuff and network driven stuff for entertainment. Guys like Hannity, etc who are like Stephen A Smith or Paul Finebaum. It's all for viewership.
News like BBC, etc is boring. People want to be entertained so you have to watch Rachel Maddow or the View so that you'll have some emotions sparked.
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Ultimate Tiger [36249]
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It's been divisive since I started paying attention in the 1980s.
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Jun 30, 2025, 4:31 PM
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The only noticeable difference is that the discourse has gotten stupider, which I attribute to the broadening of public participation made possible through the internet and then ramped up through social media.
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Clemson Conqueror [11592]
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I wasn't there, but I've heard the first presidential election was pretty nasty.
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Jun 30, 2025, 4:52 PM
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So - it's been bad for a long time.
Oddly, I first realized really how divided things were when CSPAN was invented. How can EVERY vote be 98.6% down party lines? But they are.
Social Media gave every moron a voice - so that's why things seem worse now.
Things also got a bit worse when SCOTUS allowed Super PACs to exist, which made for some fine election buying.
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Ring of Honor [22746]
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Historically Senators & House Representatives thought independently
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Jun 30, 2025, 5:06 PM
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And represented their constituencies. Today they speak in unison along prescribed party lines and vote in totally partisan manner to reinforce extreme positions of the right and left.
Congress is made up of cowards. Party primaries are owned by special interest money and gravitate towards extremes enhanced by social media and hyper partisan media outlets.
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Tiger Titan [45186]
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Came to post this.
Jul 1, 2025, 8:28 AM
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<333333
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Tiger Titan [45186]
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Also, word placement can make a big difference. For example.
Jul 1, 2025, 8:28 AM
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Came to this post.
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Orange Elite [5548]
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This is a tough question on here because the majority of us grew up in SC
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Jun 30, 2025, 6:43 PM
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or other Southern states predominantly controlled by Republican politics. So even the liberal amongst us dealt with a repetitive concepts being pushed by the Republican Party. These statements weren't necessarily true but you heard them so often they became true.
But the Republican strategy since Reagan has been the politics of grievances. Hate the poor black women on food stamps, hate the guy because he's gay, really hate the gay guy that wants to get married. Hate the hispanic that immigrated into the country. Especially hate the hispanic that illegally crossed the border. Hate the transgender woman. Hate people who want to go to the doctor. The idea was somehow all these people are making your life worse.
But they haven't pushed any solutions to actually fix the problems that actually exist. The jobs that left overseas (ironically not to the Hispanics that came through the Southern border). The wealth disparity that's evaporated the middle class. The rise in healthcare that's left small employers unable to provide insurance and pushed people onto government healthcare. These problems are ignored as long as someone can celebrate that a couple trans teenagers don't get to play sports the person has never watched before.
You see it on here. When was the last time a conservative on here actually proposed a policy that's going to improve the lives of Americans? A bill that saves them a couple bucks while increasing the national debt? One that cuts health insurance to millions. One that takes food out of the mouths of school children? One that's going to raise their electricity bills?
There is no winner there, unless you're one of the people who thrives on grievance politics. Then you're just happy the poors are hungrier and less healthy so you feel better about yourself for also being poor and unhealthy.
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CU Guru [1507]
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Re: This is a tough question on here because the majority of us grew up in SC
Jun 30, 2025, 8:13 PM
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or other Southern states predominantly controlled by Republican politics. So even the liberal amongst us dealt with a repetitive concepts being pushed by the Republican Party. These statements weren't necessarily true but you heard them so often they became true.
But the Republican strategy since Reagan has been the politics of grievances. Hate the poor black women on food stamps, hate the guy because he's gay, really hate the gay guy that wants to get married. Hate the hispanic that immigrated into the country. Especially hate the hispanic that illegally crossed the border. Hate the transgender woman. Hate people who want to go to the doctor. The idea was somehow all these people are making your life worse.
But they haven't pushed any solutions to actually fix the problems that actually exist. The jobs that left overseas (ironically not to the Hispanics that came through the Southern border). The wealth disparity that's evaporated the middle class. The rise in healthcare that's left small employers unable to provide insurance and pushed people onto government healthcare. These problems are ignored as long as someone can celebrate that a couple trans teenagers don't get to play sports the person has never watched before.
You see it on here. When was the last time a conservative on here actually proposed a policy that's going to improve the lives of Americans? A bill that saves them a couple bucks while increasing the national debt? One that cuts health insurance to millions. One that takes food out of the mouths of school children? One that's going to raise their electricity bills?
There is no winner there, unless you're one of the people who thrives on grievance politics. Then you're just happy the poors are hungrier and less healthy so you feel better about yourself for also being poor and unhealthy.
I hate the Gamecocks, that is the team or group I hate.
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Athletic Dir [1133]
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Re: 40+ lungers, GITT. Politics question
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Jun 30, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Rush Limbaugh didn't help matters. Then the rise of internet social media sealed the deal. It's been a sheet show ever since.
Civility has left the building. IMHO
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Ultimate Tiger [35323]
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Michael Smerconish has talked/written a lot about this topic...
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Jul 1, 2025, 9:09 AM
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he hits on it at the end of his speech/movie "Things I Wish I Knew Before I Started Talking." The whole thing is well worth the watch, but he closes on this tope starting at the 1:20 mark.
https://youtu.be/jC_DbXlP7Tg?si=unkbITwTW8q8nZIr&t=4803
The Mingle Project / Mingle Movie is a deep dive into polarization and it's well worth the watch too:
https://youtu.be/jC_DbXlP7Tg?si=unkbITwTW8q8nZIr&t=4803
* disclaimer...both of the above links require a little time and are not 10 sec clips...and that's what makes them worth watching! *
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