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TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 1:56 PM
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So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:00 PM
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What a non answer.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:07 PM
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I don't expect one at this point. Coaches are gonna ride with DJ the rest of the way which makes sense at this point whether we like it or not. They just threw Cade in to just say "See!? We did put him in! He played!" But to see them say "We weren't confident to put the ball in the air." is concerning in itself. I get you don't want to turn it over but well...we turned it over anyways.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:35 PM
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TD Ghost is back again. Speak to me coward.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:46 PM
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TD Ghost is back again. Speak to me coward.
I gave you a TU FWIW....
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 3:27 PM
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Wouldn't it just be easier to say "DJ is our guy the rest of the season and we don't want to risk getting Cade hurt" and be done with it?
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Turned it over anyway…
Nov 14, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Yep. With an awful play call, delayed draw to Shipley on 3rd & 8. So glad we outfoxed them by not throwing it on a passing down.
I’m with you on not expecting answers (that make sense) anymore. The coaches have their agenda and process. And they’re 9-1. It doesn’t matter how frustrated I or any of the fans get at substandard play, play calls or scheme. I just try to appreciate and enjoy the good plays/drives. I was proud of Phil Mafah on that next drive just going beast mode to give everyone a smile. Go Tigers!
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 15, 2022, 3:02 AM
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But they did it with KB. Have we seen enough yet? I really don't know. I thought DJ had figured it out, but you're not supposed to get worse as the year goes on. I would like to see Cade an entire game, to see how he does.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:56 PM
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It was not a "non-answer" it was the most honest answer: Street straight up admitted that they are protecting DJ's frame of mind in regard to confidence.
If they let Cade come in too much or cut him loose with the offense they know it will kill DJs confidence.
That's it. Nothing more. Agree with it or not but they just admitted they are holding Cade to protect DJs psyche.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:44 PM
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That is an interesting way of reading into his words.
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Re: So why did he get taken out the next drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 6:56 PM
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Completely agree with you.
Also, not saying that this is a bad think.
If we win out (Miami, S.Carolina, and UNC in the ACC Championship), then we will go to a major bowl.
(CFP is a long shot, but not completely out of the question for us.)
Priority #1 is to finish the season strong. It's DJU or nothing for this to happen, given CK's lack of game day experience. We can either like it or not, but that's the way it is.
This is where we are right now, and any success that we have rides on DJU being in a good place mentally and physically.
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Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:05 PM
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At that point game was in hand and no need for DJ to be back in there if they admittedly werent going to risk passing anyway. Get Cade as many game reps when you can.
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Re: Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:07 PM
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If this OC thing doesn't work, sounds like he'd be a perfect fit for the next Press Secretary
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Re: Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 2:20 PM
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Nov 14, 2022, 2:34 PM
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Baghdade Paul
Nov 14, 2022, 3:31 PM
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Re: Baghdade Paul
Nov 14, 2022, 4:01 PM
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Unfortuantely, Karen won't see it.
Nov 14, 2022, 7:47 PM
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#lifeoftheignored
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Nov 14, 2022, 7:05 PM
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Re: Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:51 PM
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First off let’s get something straight here. This thread is in response to David Hood asking what’s up with the QB rotation logic. I think it’s a valid thing to question and kudos for DHood for asking it. Streeter didn’t exactly make a ton of sense in the answer, so perhaps he needs to improve in that media management area as well.
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Re: Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Why all the questioning the coaches decisions, he put his starter in and we score a TD. That seems like the right call with the right results. All year coaches are being questioned with every decision concerning Cade. And every decision has turned out to be the right one.
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Re: Why was Cade subsequently replaced for our last drive?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Why all the questioning the coaches decisions, he put his starter in and we score a TD. That seems like the right call with the right results. All year coaches are being questioned with every decision concerning Cade. And every decision has turned out to be the right one.
Including entering with the Tigers at the 6 yd line. Then the bad decision to throw across his body for the INT that became the last gasp for Clemson to try to get back into the game. Even Dabo second guessed himself on that one.
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Re: not allowed to question our coaches.***
Nov 14, 2022, 4:50 PM
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The Cult of Dabo are gathered as we speak in a secret meeting to discuss the best way to handle Brandon Streeter’s weird non answer about the bizzare handling of Cade Klubnick. 2nd home game in a row he was mysteriously taken out on the last offensive possession. DJ must be happy!!
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that makes absolutly zero sense
Nov 14, 2022, 2:06 PM
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they keep saying they want to get him experience..while not giving him opportunities to gain experience
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At this point, I think that we all can agree that Cade has
Nov 14, 2022, 2:14 PM
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enough experience handing off to our runningbacks. It's past time to let him throw the ball more.
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:16 PM
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They want to give Cade experience without giving him experience….all these coaches would do well in politics.
And people on here think it would be a good thing to end up in the playoffs. SMH
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:19 PM
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:20 PM
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Skreeter and Richardson need to stay in their offices, Dabo should answer for the offense.
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Inexperience and short-sightedness is the logical excuse
Nov 14, 2022, 2:29 PM
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behind that illogical answer. Scared to throw the ball? I hold my breath each time DJ steps back to throw. I have equal confidence or more confidence in Cade.
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Re: Inexperience and short-sightedness is the logical excuse
Nov 14, 2022, 3:19 PM
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2 of DJ's passes should have been intercepted this past weekend in his "good game".
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:34 PM
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Can he be any more less of an OC then he is now? Dude is way over his head as an OC and Cade should have stayed in the game. The game was out of reach!
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"put in the second string QB" an argument as old as football
Nov 14, 2022, 2:37 PM
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can we just trust the people who watch the QBs EVERY SINGLE DAY?! I doubt anyone on this board has 2% of the knowledge needed to make that call. I am sure you'll argue nonetheless!
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If you don't like reading the discussion about sports...
Nov 14, 2022, 3:04 PM
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on a sports discussion board, why don't you go check your zip code for a better deal on your Medicare Part B benefits and leave the discussion to people who want to discuss???
Streeter's management of the QBs at Clemson this season certainly warrants some discussion, even if you aren't able to follow it.
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I think it’s a pretty safe assumption the one primarily managing the QBs
Nov 14, 2022, 3:07 PM
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is Dabo.
Dabo is the one who probably makes the call in terms of who plays and which plays are run by each QB.
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Re: I think it’s a pretty safe assumption the one primarily managing the QBs
Nov 14, 2022, 3:50 PM
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That would have been the most honest reply -“Dabo told me to”.
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Re: "put in the second string QB" an argument as old as football
Nov 11, 2012, 12:46 PM
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I get your point but I think people would appreciate hearing the OC can at least intelligently respond to that instead of ducking the question.
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Re: "put in the second string QB" an argument as old as football
Nov 14, 2022, 4:47 PM
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So you want him to say, "Cade is ready like we hoped he would be, so we have to keep DJ in most of the time. DJ didn't turn out to be a good as we hoped, do we have to play conservative on offense and hope the defense can win it for us"?
I think that would just make things worse.
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Re: "put in the second string QB" an argument as old as football
Nov 15, 2022, 3:00 PM
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I honestly would just like to hear from the OC what the thinking has been with Cade. They put him in for a couple of meaningless handoffs and then they bring DJ back in to take a knee and call that getting Cade some experience? It feels like they have been so schizophrenic in the way they have used Cade that it doesn't seem like there really has been much of a coordinated effort to bring him along.
I guess I would just expect a little more clarity without speaking in code and not providing a decoder ring so you can understand what he said 
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:42 PM
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What Streeter is really saying in his politically correct manner is leave the coaching to the coaches.
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:47 PM
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Do they (coachs) really think that we as fans are that stupid? ITS A GAME!!!!! YOURE PLAYING A GAME!
This isn't rocket science, neuroscience etc... Most of us grew up playing the GAME! I can't get over how stupid it was to bring DJ back in the game after Cade had one series. GIVE HIM MORE EXPERIENCE!!
AT THAT POINT WHY BRING HIM IN AT ALL????? JUST SO HE CAN HAND THE BALL AND OFF AND SCRAMBLE??? HE CAN DO THAT IN PRACTICE!!! I'M SO THROUGH WITH THIS OC EXPERIMENT.... THE CO-OC'S LAST YEAR WAS A JOKE AND THIS YEAR IS A JOKE!!!! STOP HIRING GRAD ASSISTANTS AND HIRE SOMEONE WITH "GAME TIME" EXPERIENCE!!
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I’m a man!
Nov 14, 2022, 8:34 PM
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COME AT ME!! IM 40! IM A MAN!
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Do they (coachs) really think that we as fans are that stupid? ITS A GAME!!!!! YOURE PLAYING A GAME!
This isn't rocket science, neuroscience etc... Most of us grew up playing the GAME! I can't get over how stupid it was to bring DJ back in the game after Cade had one series. GIVE HIM MORE EXPERIENCE!!
AT THAT POINT WHY BRING HIM IN AT ALL????? JUST SO HE CAN HAND THE BALL AND OFF AND SCRAMBLE??? HE CAN DO THAT IN PRACTICE!!! I'M SO THROUGH WITH THIS OC EXPERIMENT.... THE CO-OC'S LAST YEAR WAS A JOKE AND THIS YEAR IS A JOKE!!!! STOP HIRING GRAD ASSISTANTS AND HIRE SOMEONE WITH "GAME TIME" EXPERIENCE!!
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Sounds like every decision on team is about DJ's confidence
Nov 14, 2022, 2:58 PM
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If DJ is returning to Clemson in 2023, Cade needs to open up the bidding war for his services. Cade will have a lot of options as the #1 QB recruit in the country. And the other teams will want him to pass. He is one of the most accurate and mobile QB's in the country and needs game experience.
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Re: Sounds like every decision on team is about DJ's confidence
Nov 14, 2022, 3:35 PM
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I don't think DJ is coming back but if he does, I think we really risk losing CK unless he is the starter and DJ is the backup while working on his master's degree.
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Re: Sounds like every decision on team is about DJ's confidence
Nov 14, 2022, 5:02 PM
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The thought of that makes me feel physically ill and full of dread. DJ’s confidence should not matter because he stinks! He will never be a top 50-75 QB! What have these coaches gotten themselves into? If Cade stinks so bad they can’t trust him to make any type of forward pass or even hand off, there is no light at the end of the tunnel for the offense. I don’t know squat, but it’s almost impossible to be worse than DJ isn’t it? What has happened?
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Re: Sounds like every decision on team is about DJ's confidence
Nov 14, 2022, 5:18 PM
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We didn’t get to 9-1 without DJ, DJ has been a very good QB at times, he just try’s to make the perfect play an it doesn’t exist in football.
You have to make a quick decision and stick to it quickly. Throw the ball away if you don’t have a good chance but don’t get a sack by holding onto the ball to long.
DJ would be a very good QB if he would just process the decision faster an act on it. Throwing the ball away is a great play compared to a sack and losing 10-15 yards.
They stick with DJ because his potential to be great is incredible but his acting on it is taking time.
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Re: Sounds like every decision on team is about DJ's confidence
Nov 15, 2022, 11:53 AM
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Actually we did get to 9-1 without DJ... had he not been pulled in the Cuse game we would be 8-2... Had Cade been given reps with the 1st team and playing time earlier in the game (before sticking him at random into a game down by 4 touchdowns inside the 10 yard line) we might even still be undefeated. We'll never know because it didn't happen...
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Playing CK should always be placed above winning the game***
Nov 14, 2022, 3:02 PM
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Re: Playing CK should always be placed above winning the game***
Nov 14, 2022, 6:59 PM
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That's not the issue, the coaches decided to bring Cade in. Then inexplicably the next series DJ was handing the ball off. Why? Why bring in him at all. It's obvious our offense stinks so bad that we can't get second and third teamers reps as we have in the past so why take every opportunity to do that?
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I'm less concerned about this...
Nov 14, 2022, 3:15 PM
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And much more concerned at his inability to call plays.
Please no more SLOW RPOs. They don't work, especially with DJ.
Please no more Running Back screens.
When running the two back set, don't motion one of the backs out to a passing route. Utilize one as a lead blocker along with oline pulls. We killed it with this at the end of last year.
THROW THE BALL TO THE TIGHT ENDS!
Stop calling streaks routes as the majority. Where are the slants? Where is the middle of the field?
Give the ball to Shiply more!
THE END.
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 14, 2022, 3:26 PM
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I keep trying to give Streeter the benefit of the doubt and then I listen to his explanations and it keeps getting harder and harder to do so...
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Why would he say he has no confidence in CK's passing?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:29 PM
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You just publicly insulted your future QB and possibly damaged his confidence and trust. What an idiotic statement to make to the press. Even if you think it, you keep that to yourself and protect the players. Just a stupid, stupid comment to make. I hope somebody pulls Streeter to the side and points this out so it can at least be a learning experience.
Also, you can't explain putting CDJ back in for the last series because it isn't logical or defensible.
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Hopefully someone pulls Streeter aside and
Nov 14, 2022, 4:36 PM
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talks to him about choosing his words carefullly and it's a learning experience. He could have simply said they wanted to just run the clock out.
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Re: Hopefully someone pulls Streeter aside and
Nov 14, 2022, 4:47 PM
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Maybe Streeter should poll Tigernet for what plays to run against Miami. Two runs and 68 fly routes might possibly work.
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Re: Hopefully someone pulls Streeter aside and
Nov 14, 2022, 4:55 PM
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I believe completely in Streeter, but as I said in other comments, protecting DJ's confidence like we do is fine as long as you are not damaging CK's. You have to think about him too. He should have finished the game.
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Re: Why would he say he has no confidence in CK's passing?
Nov 14, 2022, 4:53 PM
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He didn't say he had no confidence in Klubnik passing the ball. He's saying they weren't confident in passing the ball, period. They were trying to run out the clock with a lead, which is not an common thing in this sport.
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If DJ got hurt and couldn’t play
Nov 14, 2022, 4:53 PM
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It could make a difference in how Cade played in the previous games. If cade played and threw a couple interceptions it might be the difference in us getting the playoffs and not getting in the playoffs if DJ got hurt.
They could be thinking along those lines. They would rather him be unknown than to be thought of as a bad quarterback behind DJ if he got hurt and they were making a decision on the playoffs.
I’m just thinking ahead and I’m not sure that’s what they’re thinking but that might be what they’re thinking.
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Orange Phenom [14559]
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Gee whiz, just say "No comment" coach.***
Nov 14, 2022, 5:13 PM
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All-TigerNet [5643]
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I’m NOT on the fire everybody train, but they way
Nov 14, 2022, 7:35 PM
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They are handling Cade in these games really seems like they are coaching without a clue of what they are doing.
Maybe one time in the history of football has rotating QBs worked well.
I believe the Offense problems is all about DJ, but these coaches decide who goes on the field and what they are doing is very UN Clemson like.
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Legend [6925]
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That last fumble by Ship was on Klubnik
Nov 14, 2022, 11:41 PM
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Surrounded by Defensive players, Klubnik should have kept the ball and try to run in out. I bet Ship was pissed. Big relief to see DJ come back in...
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Commissioner [1211]
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Re: That last fumble by Ship was on Klubnik
Nov 15, 2022, 12:04 PM
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Like DJ has made perfect decisions regarding when to hand it off and when to keep it?? How about if the O-line actually blocked ... anyone on that play?? You want to lay blame... that is where it belongs! Not on a back-up QB that has been given not nearly enough reps behind KB 2.0.
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Rival Killer [2887]
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What was the point of putting him in just to hand it off every play?
Nov 14, 2022, 11:49 PM
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Just stupid.
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 15, 2022, 2:46 PM
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Just now catching up on this article. Flabbergasted. Haven't read all the responses but I'm sincerely disappointed in Streeter answers to the questions.
His answers were deeper imo than just cade and dj and who gets to play. Up 2 scores and we're playing scared. We've played scared all year. No wonder we lost to ND. He's saying we have zero confidence in the offense period. He's also saying we have zero confidence in our defense. That's pathetic.
Up by 7 to a top 5 opponent or to an opponent that We've shown all game we couldn't stop it's a different story. However in this case, it was the complete opposite. Yes, he's got problems, Dabo has problems. This is and should not be Clemson football. Needs to be fixed asap.
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 15, 2022, 3:20 PM
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What about when DJ was inserted into the Syracuse game for the victory formation after being benched? Was that ever explained? And then the postgame comments? Not a word for Cade, just reminders that DJ is “the guy”. You’re right, there is something deeper at hand here.
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Standout [226]
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 16, 2022, 7:48 AM
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Come on Streeter, so if you're telling us DJ has a problem packing and unpacking his confidence, you have a problem from the gitgo. Just like packing and unpacking you physicality with the OL and DL. You either have these qualities or you don't, football is a physical tougher than you mentality!!!
this was the (ND excuse)
I noticed DJ played scared all last year and we were told he would be better this year, there's really not much change other than he's running a little better due to his weight.
Need to put Cade in this week from the beginning and let him play the game, if things get out of wack that bad, and if DJ is any good , let him come in a clean it up and then we'll see how good he is in a clutch !!!
Cade is a good running, scrambling , strong armed accurate QB. He doesn't play scared from what little we've seen him.
DABO, make some decisions here please!!! Let the boy get some playing time these last 2 games!! You're going to need him.
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Athletic Dir [1156]
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Re: TNET: Streeter details Clemson QB situation, including substitution of Klubnik at end of game
Nov 16, 2022, 10:26 PM
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Well if you ask me - and of course no one did!
Cade was better early because in the spring and summer he got more reps. Right now it takes everything we've got to get DJ ready and then to throw Cade in not as well prepared and in a terrible spot (at ND) you are asking for trouble.
No doubt it is DJ or bust for the rest of the year and hopefully we will win out and get to the Orange Bowl against Bamma or LSU and hopefully we will be up to the task!
But first, we are not good enough to sleep on anyone right now so we better be ready on Saturday.
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