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Letterman [185]
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Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 5:57 PM
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That is the question.
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Clemson Conqueror [11181]
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Great assistants and generational talent and then the opposite of that!***
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Sep 20, 2025, 5:58 PM
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Letterman [185]
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Re: Great assistants and generational talent and then the opposite of that!***
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:00 PM
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How and why did that happen and then not happen?
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Hall of Famer [8864]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 5:59 PM
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LFT......that is all. LFT.
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Valley Protector [1478]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:00 PM
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Brent Venables!
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Starter [287]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:01 PM
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Not enough evidence yet. Until he has Oklahoma moving through the playoff.
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Starter [287]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:00 PM
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A big topic and great question. While the cases appear very different, I think searching "why Nebraska football declined" on YouTube is something of interest herein.
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Solid Orange [1343]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:01 PM
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Because the coaches that got us there left. They left Dabo on an island and now we are finding out that he's not a football coach. A manager maybe but a bad one of those. And some fool decided it was a good idea to nail him down for 10 additional years and pay him 115 million. This has been going sideways for a long, long time.
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Starter [287]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:02 PM
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The coaches that left have not done enough to support this, yet. BV might one day, but is not there yet.
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Game Changer [1768]
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The answer is the same for both.
Sep 20, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Amazing talent and assistant coaches. Then, we lost talent to the portal and nil (because Dabo won't use it) and replaced our amazing coaches with bad hires.
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Head Coach [935]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Dabo lost his drive and ability to self diagnose issues after two titles. Instead of taking the Saban route and keying in on how to stay great, he retreated into “what I’ve done worked before, y’all don’t know nothin’”. He became fat and lazy, and it’s reflected in our program and the product on the field. Zero innovation, zero passion.
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Paw Warrior [4710]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:14 PM
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In no particular order:
1. Coaches moving on to other jobs
2. Refusal to utilize the transfer portal
3. Stuck in old ways / unwillingness to adapt
4. NIL
5. Nepotism
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1st Rounder [601]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
Sep 20, 2025, 6:19 PM
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Venables left, terrible hires, refusing to believe you need the portal, NIL mismanagement. This year the QB has been 70-80% to blame. Cade has been a shock. Would anyone be shocked to see guys redshirt and leave after today? Cade will get one of those WRs hurt before long I fear.
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Letterman [188]
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Re: Why did Clemson football become great and then not great?
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Sep 20, 2025, 6:22 PM
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Jeff Scott and Tony Elliot kicked serious butt and Brent Venables was in line of site of his players on the field not cowering upstairs.
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