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Orange Blooded [2516]
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Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:05 PM
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Again getting 5-6 sec teams is just rediculous. The CFP should cap it to only 3 teams per conference max. And also no more then 2 losses there should be no 9-3 teams in the playoffs.
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Game Day Hero [4512]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:07 PM
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Because then you run the risk of "not getting the best teams in", which is what the playoff was meant for.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:22 PM
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The playoffs are mostly to display part of the workings of ESECPN!!!
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Legend [6837]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:23 PM
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Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss are the only SEC teams in. Miami, SMU, and Clemson should be in. However, Tenn. ,Texas, and Texas A&M will keep us out because of their desire to get in as many SEC teams as possible.
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Orange Blooded [2320]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:26 PM
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Clemson should not be in over Texas or Tennessee
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Game Changer [1738]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Why?
Texas has the worst SOS in the conference. The only team they've played that's above .500 is Vandy and they only beat them by 3. I don't care what teams WERE ranked when they played. That's all part of the nonsense. And BTW, Texas is 3rd. THIRD! It's not like they're sneaking in at 12.
Tennessee isn't any better. The beat Alabama who is currently 8-2. Oklahoma, Florida, Arkansas are all at 5-5. Kentucky and Miss St. are 4-6. And they lost to Arkansas!
Both got waxed by Georgia.
Don't buy into to the nonsense. Over half the teams in the SEC are at .500 or worse in conference and only 3 of those have winning records overall.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:32 PM
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You don't have to be very bright, and you don't need 20/20 vision to know and see that the more teams that the ESECPN can put in the playoffs, the more of the Jackpot they will receive, and it truly is just that plain and simple!!!
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Starter [276]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:50 PM
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I love my Tigers, but we lost badly to a not-so-good Louisville team at home. We are not getting in as an at large selection.
Our only hope is that Miami loses to Syracuse and we play in the conference championship. We would then have to win the ACC championship. Otherwise, we’re not in the CFP.
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Hall of Famer [8367]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:51 PM
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I think we also have to beat SC. Losing to SC and winning the ACC might not be enough.
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Valley Legend [12628]
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Clemson Icon [24212]
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The Trojan Horse of this new system is that it breaks down the importance of
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:13 PM
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"other" conferences. This softens the ground for SEC/Big10 full spectrum dominance.
Conference championships are now potentially illegitimately determined for the first time ever.
The 4 team playoff was superior (before the palace coup vs FSU last year) because it held in place the the objective principles and limited the intellectually destructive chaos that "eye test" brings. "Eye test" really just means unbound, unhinged subjectivity. Now with 12 teams, they have to let 3 non-SEC/Big10 teams in and the rest have a flexible path.
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Tiger Spirit [9169]
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Re: The Trojan Horse of this new system is that it breaks down the importance of
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:25 PM
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What the 4 team playoff needed was maybe an occasional, if deemed necessary, play in game for the 4th seed with a 5th seed (see FSU 2023). I liked the 4 team playoff more and resisted this version but now I see all that I don’t like about this new playoff is the P2 sinfully taking all of the spots, regardless of who are the best teams.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: The Trojan Horse of this new system is that it breaks down the importance of
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:35 PM
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You and I 100% agree with that!!! I would also bet that you saw a 12 team play being exactly the way that it's heading right now, I surely did!!!
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Orange Elite [5498]
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Re: The Trojan Horse of this new system is that it breaks down the importance of
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Nov 20, 2024, 2:53 PM
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My prediction back in 2021 (before Pac12 died and SEC dropped divisions):
1 seed: SEC champ
2 seed: B1G champ
3 seed: Big 12 champ
4 seed: ACC champ
5 seed: SEC champ game loser
6 seed: SEC team in second place in SEC west
7 seed: SEC team in second place in SEC east
8 seed: Notre Dame (just because)
9 seed: best 3-loss SEC team
10 seed: next best SEC team
11 seed: best Go5 team
12 seed: PAC-12 Champ
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Tiger Spirit [9169]
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Solid Orange [1341]
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Re: The Trojan Horse of this new system is that it breaks down the importance of
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:41 PM
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Prepare to hear this from Saban on Gameday:
"It should just be the top 12 ranked teams after conference championships. No automatic bids."
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Heisman Winner [86178]
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If those 5 or 6 are actually some of the best twelve, I would have no issue with
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:20 PM
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them getting in. But, the SEC makes pretty sure their darlings play cupcakes outside the conference down the stretch, whenever possible, so that they can continue the narrative of "Uber Talented SEC teams cannibalizing each other". When in reality, it is just average teams beating other average teams.
And furthermore, just PLAYING a tough schedule should not buy you any votes for the CFP. Playing a tough schedule and BEATING those tough teams should be required. The SEC wants CFP bids to be given out like Participation Trophies. How on earth did Greg Sankey come to wield the power that he does? He literally lobbied this "best conference in college football" crap into existence years ago, long before it might actually have been true.
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Tiger Spirit [9169]
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Re: If those 5 or 6 are actually some of the best twelve, I would have no issue with
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:29 PM
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Greg Sankey needs to meet the business end of a boom mic next time he’s on the line or on air.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: If those 5 or 6 are actually some of the best twelve, I would have no issue with
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:46 PM
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Isn't that the way that it was when Clemson and Bama went into the 4 team playoffs. They would regardless of who was #1 or #2, they would make sure that 3 and 4 were ranked so that Bama always played the lesser of 3 and 4, and they would rank them that way to ensure that it was that way!!!
Anybody that actually believes the playoffs aren't money driven, they are completely blind to the fact that money rules, and not just in this day and time bc it always has dating back to the Roman Gladiator "Games" as they called it even when one of the competitors had to die!!!
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Starter [276]
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Re: If those 5 or 6 are actually some of the best twelve, I would have no issue with
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:53 PM
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The current state of college football is largely due to ESPN. They have a TV contract with the SEC. They are going to make sure that relationship is as lucrative as possible. To do that, they have to figure out a way for more SEC teams to play in the postseason, especially the CFP.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:21 PM
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Because ESECPN owns the playoffs. It an undercover very private ownership, but they own and control it just as they did with previous playoffs.
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Hall of Famer [8367]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:45 PM
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What would be the benefit of limiting it to 3 per conference?
Again - conferences are not equal. There is nothing in place to ensure parity or equity. The 3rd place team in the Big12 or ACC is not automatically as good or better than the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th place team in the SEC.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:56 PM
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We can also believe that before the judge ruled that athletes were entitled to Name-Likeness-Image, there had been research done to see what conference would gain a competitive edge in that ruling. I personally believe that if their research hadn't shown that the SEC and the Big 10 having the competitive edge with the NIL, they would have thought of another way so that they would've had an edge for paying players... BUT, BUT
I absolutely believe that the ACC brought what's happening mainly with college FB on themselves when the ACC administration and the ACC commissioner refused to entice all of their ACC member schools to place more emphases on the sport that had highest fan support, and the sport that brought more money to the conference than all other sports combined. By the ACC'S failure to push FB throughout the entire conference, they set back and allowed the SEC and the Big 10 to dominate college FB, and now the ACC is being pushed out of the sport that's laying the golden eggs for the SEC and the Big 10. Usually, you will Reep what you sow, and the ACC didn't sow to much encouragement for their member schools to spend more money on their FB complexes, or on their FB recruiting, and the ACC was left behind as a power FB conference. They brought what's happening on themselves, and the only thing that the few FB first schools can do now is try and find a home where FB 1st schools will be welcomed even if they have to build their own FB 1st conference....
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Hall of Famer [8367]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:59 PM
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You think that the federal government made a legal decision, on purpose, that was slanted toward the NCAA conferences that would benefit financially the most?
That might be the biggest bat-sheet crazy conspiracy so far.
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Orange Phenom [14697]
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Look, the strings of the CFP playoff are pulled primarily by Sankey and ESPN.***
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:52 PM
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National Champion [7178]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 1:55 PM
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I think it should be the best 12 teams period regardless of conference won etc.
If the best 12 includes 6 from the SEC then so be it as long as they ARE the best.
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Orange Immortal [62833]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:17 PM
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But how do you decide who is the best without playing teams with the same record or one win better in a power 4 or 5 conference? I mean just bc they're in the SEC doesn't automatically mean they are better than a team in another conference with the same record. Like we played in the 2018 season we won all 15 games but we weren't given a chance to beat SEC Bama in the NCG, and we kicked the crap out them. But bc they play in the SEC they were supposed to be better than Clemson and they were expected to win the NCG where they failed miserably, and Dabo had to call the dogs off with the play calling in the 4 quarter. If Dabo would have said come on fellows, jump up and down on neck, we probably score two more TDs on them bc we had their D in submission...
On average SEC teams are usually pretty good with several of their teams, but they aren't top to bottom that much better than every team in college FB. That is my opinion and I'm sticking with it be they're not top to bottom better than everyone else...
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National Champion [7178]
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I beg to differ. The SEC has won 14 of the last 20 National Championships. That’s a 70% win ratio.
But we can agree to disagree and that’s ok!
Go Tigers!
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MVP [519]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 2:45 PM
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sounds like communism
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:43 PM
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Why can you people not understand there will never be a path for one conference to get 6 spots in the Playoffs? The sun rises and falls on someone other than the SEC.
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Heisman Winner [78589]
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because the owner of the CFP, eSECpn, owns the SEC.
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:02 PM
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They want as many of their hos at the dance as possible. And those beaches better be bringing in their money.
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Tell me the three teams from the MAC, HBCUs,
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:06 PM
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Mountain West, or Conference USA that are better than teams 4-6 in the P4 or the AAC.
I'll hang up and listen.
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Game Changer [1839]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:22 PM
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Why should they? I hate it for us, but I think most people want their team to win and be there year after year. But if the suck and get in is that any better? I want Clemson to earn it. I like that we feel like we get no respect and are fighting up hill all the time. It better than getting some kiss butt favoritism the is the thing alot of Tnetters really want if they were going to be true to themselves. What I don't want is some play-off that keeps better teams out and lets teams in that will just get blown out in the first round just because of some arbitrary number requirement.
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:41 PM
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The goal is to get the best 12 teams in. Period.
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Valley Legend [12728]
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Re: Why cant the CFP limit it to 3 teams per conference
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Nov 20, 2024, 5:36 PM
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The goal may be to get the best 12 teams into the playoff but the rub is who gets to make that decision. We all know rankings are compiled and shuffled according to how certain folks want the outcome to be.
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