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Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:02 AM
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This is a common refrain here since the Notre Dame loss.
And for those who think this way, could you please share your logic?
TIA
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:04 AM
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not real competitors.
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even w/ a 50-0 loss a CFP invite ensures RELEVANCY...
Nov 16, 2022, 12:23 PM
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in the age of recency bias-
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:07 AM
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Heck no! I want to go period. It’s good for recruiting
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:30 AM
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^^^ gets it ^^^
So that's a yes to go for me
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:44 AM
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So was the Notre Dame game good for recruiting as well? I mean it was a high profile game on national TV with a bunch of people, including recruits, watching. How many recruits do you think that game pushed towards Clemson?
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Orange Blooded [2683]
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Yes, actually, it probably was
Nov 16, 2022, 12:42 PM
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If you want to play on national TV you'd be interested in both of those programs.
If you want to be on ESPN+ streaming you'd look at USC.
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It amazes me how the MAGNITUDE of that ND loss doesn’t…
Nov 16, 2022, 4:22 PM
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…seem to register with most on this board.
The team absolutely has to “move on” to the next game, but, that does NOT mean that the CFP committee has to “move along…nothing to see here” from that ND loss.
That loss, to me, was ALMOST, and I say, ALMOST, as bad as the West Virginia Orange Bowl loss, strictly because of what was at stake in South Bend, compared to having already reached the last game of the season when they played WVU.
Two (2) weeks to prepare…TWO WEEKS!!! Against an AWFUL, unranked team, and NO, I don’t care that ND was “getting it together” by the time they played Clemson.
I predict that ND is going to get busted up against the REAL USC, and make that Clemson loss in South Bend, even harder to swallow.
Clemson deserves to PAY A PRICE for that loss in South Bend, and that CFP committee is going to make sure the Tigers PAY UP.
Clemson beats UNC in Charlotte, then, they will be Orange Bowl bound in Miami.
A nice ending to what might have been IF the Tigers had taken care of their business in South Bend on a windy night.
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Re: It amazes me how the MAGNITUDE of that ND loss doesn’t…
Nov 16, 2022, 8:41 PM
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I think OSU made it one year when they got absolutely destroyed by Iowa I think. Cannot remember exactly who it was.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Yes It was good for recruiting. Alabama had their best recruiting class after getting slaughtered by Clemson for the world to see, and Georgia hadn't won a Natty in 40 years and was still out recruiting everyone.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 3:44 PM
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Exactly ...... and name one year in recent the play-off's in which a team or two teams have not gotten blown out in the semi final or final game. I remember when the best team ever in college football got blown out 44-16!
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:08 AM
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I will always want the Tigers to go as far as they can including getting into the playoffs. I'm not interested in a participation trophy from the Orange Bowl but if that is the best we can do then we accept it and try and go win the Orange Bowl.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:08 AM
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I'm guessing those same people hope we drop a game to Miami or maybe the coots so we'll get an easier bowl opponent.
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Give me playoffs or give me death!
Nov 16, 2022, 10:10 AM
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But seriously, how is this even a question....cant wrap my mind around it.
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Re: Give me playoffs or give me death!
Nov 16, 2022, 11:33 AM
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If you fear losing doesn't that make you a loser?
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:10 AM
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I dont think we end up making the Playoff, too much needs to happen in my opinion. That being said if Clemson had the opportunity to be #4 and play UGA (more than likely) I would much rather that then whoever we would play in whatever bowl.
My guess is the same people who would rather miss the playoff to avoid UGA would also think we would get curb stomped by Bama or Michigan or any other top team that misses the playoff.
Would I pick Clemson to beat UGA, no probably not, but making the CFP is an achievement and puts us on the big stage again.
Plus you never know what can happen in any given game. Maybe the UGA team that played poorly against Missouri shows up.
Go Tigers
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:13 AM
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I don’t at all. You got to get in it in order to win it. You never know what could happen. If the team played to its potential, they could beat any body.
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I agree that going to the CFP is always better than NOT, but
Nov 16, 2022, 10:52 AM
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to your comment of "if Clemson plays to it's potential, they could beat anybody"
We haven't put a complete game together offensively and defensively since probably the 2020 ACCCG vs Notre Dame, so our "potential" may not be good enough to beat "ANYBODY"........I think we'd need a B-C game from the opponent to go along with our "A" game for us to beat "the elite".................now......it's football and anything can happen, but I'm just talking about our fans perception of our "potential" b/c our ceiling is nowhere near what it used to be 2015-2018/19.
but playoff appearance would be better than non playoffs regardless of outcome as long as Dabo can learn/change/adapt depending on the outcome............the lack of that has been the reason for our "slip" since the 2019 LSU game.
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Re: I agree that going to the CFP is always better than NOT, but
Nov 16, 2022, 10:59 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I do feel like we have a talented group and if they could just put it all together for one game, they could beat almost anybody. Let’s face it very few teams play great the entire game even Georgia and Ohio State, they’ve had some Sucky games this year too. If you look back to our 2016 and 2018 teams, we lost to pitt, we almost lost to Texas A&M. We almost lost to NC State, only buy missed field goal did we win that one in overtime. The bottom line is, we can’t win it unless we’re in it.
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agree that the "Elites" have bad games too.....
Nov 16, 2022, 11:13 AM
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what I'm saying is we haven't had what we'd consider an "A" game offense & defense in over 2 years.....................OR maybe we have and this is just who we are now. If so, we would need a "B-C" game from an OSU or UGA team.
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there is no logic. CFP and Rings matter to recruits.***
Nov 16, 2022, 10:17 AM
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:17 AM
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Not me... that's why you play the games!!!
Go Tigers!!!
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I'm More Embarrassed by the People Embarrassed to Go to CFP
Nov 16, 2022, 10:22 AM
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I bet these folks use filters on their selfies
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:23 AM
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Doesn't matter if it's the playoffs or a regular bowl game, the Tigers stand a chance of getting thumped, might as well be a playoff game, who knows there might be a win.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Richard bringing the heat!
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:30 AM
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Never agree to that.... Always go if you're selected.
Great teams get beat on the highest stage...
Example: The greatest team of all time got slapped in 2018. Maybe they shouldn't have been in the playoffs.
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Getting out coached and exposed on that level
Nov 16, 2022, 10:31 AM
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Is painful and frustrating to watch.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:34 AM
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That’s the dumbest thing I have heard in a while
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Unless you're uof7c, the suckage is not transitive.***
Nov 16, 2022, 10:45 AM
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:47 AM
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I want to go to the playoff so I am not in that camp, but the argument has some merit. If we were to win out, but not make it, we would probably face Alabama, LSU, or Penn State. I think we match up pretty well with them and would probably win those games. If the 4 seed gets blown out which historically happens, we would probably finish the year ranked 3rd or 4th, depending on the other semifinal game and the talk would be about how Clemson should have made it in all off season.
If instead Clemson makes it in and gets blown out, which is what historically happens to the 4 seed. Then we likley fall pretty far down the rankings to close out the year and the talk around the program will be about how they knew we didn't belong.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:19 AM
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This is basically my take at the moment. Now if we catch lightning in a bottle and finish the season with three convincing wins then I would prefer we make the playoffs and then let the chips fall where they may. Season to date I don't think we deserve a playoff spot but there's a lot of football to be played so let's just see how we, and the other teams, finish the season.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 2:04 PM
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I meant the 4 seed vs the 1 seed, not Clemson in the playoffs
2022- Cincinnati Loss by 21
2021- Notre Dame Loss by 17
2020- Oklahoma Loss by 35
2019- Oklahoma (down 28-0 to start but did come back, but never got closer than 11)
2018- 4 seed actually won Alabama
2017- Washington Loss by 17
2016- Michigan State Loss by 31
2015- 4 seed won Ohio State
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 10:51 AM
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I'm not bashful. It's absolutely my view. I remember the damage done in that West Virginia debacle where we were curb stomped as they put up 70 points and it was painful. I'm as competitive as anybody on this board but I'm also a realist. I live in Georgia and it's painful enough living with the "dawg fans" as it is. But if we played them in the playoffs it would be one-sided. We simply aren't elite this year. But I love my Tigers. I've been a fan since 1963. I graduated from CU in 1977 so not a band wagon fan. I think we can play with Michigan, tOSU, Tennessee and TCU; probably have a reasonable chance to win the game. But I think Georgia is the best team in the country this year, though it grieves me to say so. I would simply refer to play in the Sugar Bowl ( I think the ACC Champ goes there if they don't go to the Playoffs) and regroup for next year. So hate on; that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Go Tigers l
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:00 AM
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ACC Champ goes to the Orange Bowl. If we can make the playoffs, hopefully the ND curb stomping we took will be our only one ( we already have that T-shirt).
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ND has a Tshirt that proclaims them to be ACC champ
Nov 16, 2022, 11:15 AM
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this year too. The have beaten both teams soundly this year who are playing for the ACC championship. How embarrassing is that!
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well, positives came out of West Virginia.......
Nov 16, 2022, 11:02 AM
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and South Florida the year before.
the loss to USF in 2010 forced Dabo to make an OC hire that completely transformed and elevated our offense and offensive recruiting.
the loss to WVU in 2011 did the EXACT same thing for the defense.
So..........the consolation of your concern could end up being a longrun positive for the program?....?.......just sayin'
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Good points… gotta break an egg to make an omelette***
Nov 16, 2022, 11:16 AM
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I agree with you. A dysfunctional team is not a good thing…
Nov 16, 2022, 11:12 AM
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To show recruits and it brings bad publicity too. I can hear it now if we somehow get into the playoffs and then lay an egg like we did at ND. It will be a field day for the anti-Clemson crowd on TV. “They never should have been there.” “The ACC shouldnt even be considered a power 5 conference.” Blah, blah, blah…
Now if by some miracle the coaching staff figures out how to fly this F-15 like the fighter jet it can be in the next 3 games, then I will have a different, more positive perspective about going to the playoffs. But based on the body of work thus far, Im not bullish on the idea.
All that said, anything can happen. Who knows, maybe we back into a playoff spot and get hot and win it all too. But it will be crapshoot odds based on what we have seen so far. Im wincing right now.
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Until this team is coached to play like a playoff caliber…
Nov 16, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Team in at least one game this year, I prefer Clemson not be put on the biggest stage in college football and have another embarrassing ND type game in front of god and everybody (especially recruits). That game was extremely painful and has re-started the “Clemsoning” talk again. But if we can put together 1 complete game where we look like a team that can stay on the field with an OSU, UGA, TN or Mich, then my concerns become moot.
In other words, I don’t want Clemson to back into a playoff spot based on past reputation and then lay an egg like we did against OSU last time. That just feeds the narrative that “Clemson really didnt deserve to be in natty” and “the ACC really isn’t a power 5 conference”.
It is bad enough to look like we did in that ND game as it was, much less do it in a first round playoff game too. Maybe I’m just shellshocked, but it seems like that would not be a good look for the Clemson brand to me. But alas, I don’t control these things and I can’t coach the team to get its act together and play up to the level of talent they have. Those matters we have to leave in the hands of the powers that be.
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Past reputation isn't a criteria used by the committee.
Nov 16, 2022, 1:39 PM
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Would not want to go to the playoffs just in case we lose badly?
Special, SPECIAL take. Hot one at that.
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Those same ones who get giddy everytime DJ struggles.
Nov 16, 2022, 11:00 AM
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Every fanbase has ugly fans and Clemson is no exception.
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Is it bad parenting to protect your child from bullies?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:21 AM
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A real fan can be objective and doesn’t want to see their team embarrassed in front of god and country again. Now with that said, the more that happens, the more likely changes will be made so there is that positive outcome I suppose. If it doesn’t kill us ot should make us stronger. I can see that argument too. Just May takes us another 30 years in the wilderness to dig out of the hole we dug in the process though!
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You are not part of WE.
Nov 16, 2022, 1:18 PM
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hth.
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WE includes the alumni, boosters, fans and the team… hth***
Nov 17, 2022, 2:29 PM
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(dd, my TU is not a yes to your question)***
Nov 16, 2022, 11:09 AM
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I would love to somehow squeeze into that 4th spot and
Nov 16, 2022, 11:13 AM
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get a shot at UGA in the Peach Bowl. Make it to 12-1 with an ACC title and it's very possible.
Go Tigers! Beat the Canes!
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And get our a$$ handed to us like at ND…
Nov 16, 2022, 11:23 AM
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Great. That should help recruiting. ?
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I mean at this point, why not just boycott the season
Nov 16, 2022, 1:41 PM
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and finish 9-1?
You do know there is a chance we get beat again right?
How one goes through life like this is something I'll never understand.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:57 AM
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They should look at 2016 when we had a loss before winning NC number 2! Two more than our little brother In Columbia, SC.
I believe Clemson could still win NC number 4 this year. Clemson is part of a select group with a NC. And an even more select group that has won a NC multiple times. I believe we will more under Dabo’s leadership.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 11:58 AM
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That makes no sense, if that happened that would mean we beat the next three teams. Yeah we had a bad loss, but some these top 4 current teams just don't scare me. They played who again? While Georgia may be one that's found a grove, if our defense shows up we always have a good chance. I guess we'll see
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 12:36 PM
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If we get in that’s great but not expecting it to happen and done made peace with that.
I love Clemson but I’m a realist. So we stand a chance (with this current QB and offense)
against OSU or Ga? If we could I would be the first to say so but nothing so far this year convinces me otherwise.
Thought we were a little better than we are. ND exposed huge problems in our ability to stop the run and ND is not even close to Ga or OSU’s offense.
Multiple issues this season. DL was supposed to be Top 5 and it has not been. DJ is slightly better than last year but to be honest is average at best. WR corps has lacked the ability to get separation (which is part of DJ’s problem).
Again wish I was wrong and maybe I will be but this is just a realistic view from what I have seen through game 10.
Hope all you TNetter’s are having a great day and let’s just win out and see what happens. Lot of teams between us and number 4.
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Orange Blooded [3102]
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 12:36 PM
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I DO NOT agree with that. We have the talent to beat any team on any given day. I know we haven’t played many complete games (if any) over the past 2 seasons, but at some point we will. I think it’s now or never for this offense and coordinators so why not tee it up against the best opponents out there and Friggin SEND IT!
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 12:53 PM
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In all due respect we are not remotely close to the talent level of 2018.
OL not as good (but not bad)
RB is good but definitely no Etienne
WR still not close to where we were with a Ross and a Tee Higgins and no Renfrow(the greatest walk on ever to play for Clemson)
Just not seeing it on the offense which makes it hard for me to be critical of DJ’s play. Apples and oranges when talking talent in TL’s era vs the DJ era.
Again I really hope I’m wrong. Hell we all want to win another national championship but all of us have seen 2 recent national championship teams and this one is not there yet. Few offensive weapons short imo. We may already have them and they have just not peaked, but have not seen a wideout yet that is what I consider a game changer. If we are going to throw on 50% percent of our offensive plays we need some studs to be able to get separation and make plays downfield.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 12:39 PM
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Not me.
Oh, the irony -- so many of the same folks who yell about the team not playing complete games don't want to play a complete season.
If you're a true competitor you are not one who chases numbers on paper or stars for next year's class ... you're one who takes on challenges wholeheartedly, striving to get the best out of yourself and your mates no matter how tough the circumstances -- even knowing that the day could end with your a$$ in a bucket. You scrap for every yard, every down, every game, all season.
SPOT THE BALL!
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That has got to be one of the dumbest arguments of all time.
Nov 16, 2022, 12:40 PM
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You can't win the Natty if you aren't in the tournament. (Sorry, UCF, your pretend trophy is just that, pretend).
If the talking heads could predict what was going to happen in the Playoffs, then 44-16 wouldn't have been such a "Gobsmacked" surprise for a certain Cue Ball with Ears. I say, we get in there, and roll the dice. Nobody remembers who finished second anyway, but they DO remember who finished FIRST. Only four teams get that chance each year, and I want us to be one of them.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 12:44 PM
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I would rather not give the media fuel for all summer to tell us we didn’t belong/I told you so.
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Well, I like for things to be given to me without working for them,
Nov 16, 2022, 12:52 PM
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so I’d rather we stop playing altogether since it’s unlikely we’ll win the NCG. If we can get the preseason #1 ESPN ranking for next year, I’ll rub it in all my video game buddies’ faces!
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 1:45 PM
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Based on the product we are putting on the field we would get our a@@ kicked. Just being real with ya playa playa...
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 1:48 PM
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CFP for me but will still be a Tiger whatever happens.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 2:15 PM
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@saddis56 Always a Tiger I will wholeheartedly agree with.
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A playoff seed, even 4 seed would delight me.
Nov 16, 2022, 3:38 PM
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I'm not going to post this with an apologetic tone, I'd be overjoyed to see us play Bama in the Orange Bowl and be their 3rd loss and possibly put Nick in the old folks home. Seeing Bama fans lust after Dabo and the entire ESPiN crew break down in tears when Dabo suggest he is not considering what Bama wants, in so many words. That would allow me to die happy.
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Re: A playoff seed, even 4 seed would delight me.
Nov 16, 2022, 8:38 PM
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I would like to see the meltdown after the Tigers beat UGA.
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It is best to end the season with an upward trajectory
Nov 16, 2022, 6:04 PM
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If Clemson makes it into the CFP this season, it will be as the 4 seed - meaning we will likely face Georgia or Ohio State/Michigan (more likely Ohio State IMO). From what we've seen this season it would be an absolute MIRACLE for Clemson to be competitive with either of those teams. We don't match up well with either of those teams, on either side of the ball. So... chances are we get slaughtered by either team. If you disagree with me on that prediction, fine. That's the way I see it this season.
We already took a beatdown from an average, one-dimensional team that Stanford, Marshall and Navy matched up with better than we did... and that after a season in which we haven't exactly been dominant against ANYBODY, even FURMAN AND LA TECH. Between last season and this one we lost a lot of the credibility we have from the years when we were actually competitive at the top level. Sorry to have to say that but it's the truth.
I feel the same way as everyone else. I want to be in the Final Four of college football. I want to be one of the big boys. But if we get crushed again like we did the last time we made it, I believe it will be a big hindrance to recruiting the caliber of players we need to get back to the top. If we beat an Alabama, Penn State, LSU, USC, etc. in a New Year's Six bowl (or at least play a close, competitive game with them), in my opinion it is MUCH better for going into next season's recruiting than taking another royal beatdown. It's better to NOT be the ones who clearly don't belong AGAIN.
That's my opinion. Let the fan virtue-signaling personal insults begin. I've been here longer than all you people anyway. I don't care.
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Not me. In a couple more years, the score is forgotten.
Nov 16, 2022, 7:10 PM
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But we can tell recruits, "we made the CFP 9 of the last 10 years, and you'll help us keep getting there."
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having “too many questions” to work on
Nov 16, 2022, 7:21 PM
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….each week has led me to conclude that this years squad isn’t playoff-ready. Would rather not take another @ss-beating of epic proportion on national tv.
One week it’s the secondary, or the front 7, or DJ, questionable play calling, ineffective WRs….Shipley has been the only consistent this season and unfortunately he’s just not enough.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 16, 2022, 8:45 PM
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Much rather be in the playoffs, might be easier to take if we lose as I would not be expecting a win against anyone in the top 4. We don’t have enough offensive fire power or an OC that can get the job done.
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It's a fascinating proposition
Nov 16, 2022, 9:15 PM
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There is no doubt 2022 Notre Dame was/is a far tougher and better team than Clemson this year. And while I wonder what confident 5-star players could do to our Tigers' delicate psyche, I say bring on UGA or Ohio State and let's see how we match up against the supposed best in the land. If not the playoffs, let's take on Bama and see how tough we play when motivated.
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Re: Who agrees with notion we’d rather not be embarrassed by going to the playoff?
Nov 17, 2022, 2:39 PM
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It’s all about he Benjamins. Getting wrecked in the CFP pays better. Money buys talent (legally now).
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110%er [5222]
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You can't win the Natty if you don't play in the CFP!***
Nov 17, 2022, 2:57 PM
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