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Campus Update: Clemson suspends 24 fraternities’ social, new-member activities

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Even the Miss American pagent has your attitude...

Sep 23, 2014, 11:31 PM [ in reply to Trust me. This is not a smart move but an over reaction! ]

Miss America Kira Kazantsev was kicked out of her Long Island college sorority after a hazing scandal, she admitted on "Good Morning America" Tuesday morning.

“Under the broad definition of hazing, yes, I was involved,” she said. “At the time, unfortunately, that was just the culture of the university, and I was hazed, and I was kind of brought up through the organization thinking that is appropriate behavior...”

The newly crowned pageant queen, whose platform in the competition was anti-domestic abuse, was kicked out of Hofstra University's Alpha Phi sorority last year after she sent an email ahead of an event to members of her sorority that she said was misinterpreted.

"In the email I made a joke that was taken out of context and forwarded,” she said.

So what was the joke? “That we would make the evening scary for the pledges."

"Kira has been fully transparent with the Miss America Organization about her termination from the Alpha Phi sorority," a Miss America Organization spokesperson told FOX411. "It's unfortunate that this incident has been exploited to create a storyline that distracts from what we should be focusing on: Kira's impressive academic achievements at Hofstra University, including earning a triple major from the Honors College and her commitment to serving her community. Kira is an exceptional ambassador for the Miss America Organization, and we are excited to be a part of her journey as a force for good across our nation, promoting education and service and working to empower young women."

On Tuesday, Kazantsev, 23, published a new post on her blog and appeared on Good Morning America to respond to the claims, which included, "pledges ... called names, berated for their perceived physical flaws and imperfections, and made to perform physical tasks to the point of bruising and exhaustion,"

So, I guess what they think this country has come to is if you are smart you are a winner, no matter that you were kicked out of an organization on college for hazing.

I guess if you are smart, you can treat people like crap and it is OK. Pretty sure the pagent is about character, too.

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The headline was not misleading. Last weekend IFC suspended activities because the University pressured them into it. Later, on Tuesday the university not IFC suspended all activities.

And I think it is important to note that a lot of the "activities" behind suspended are not what people assume. They include philanthropies, many of which raise thousands of dollars for charity, and sober brother/sisterhood events and other activities.

Not having parties out of respect is one thing, and one I think many people are OK with, but the university suspending all activities, including from the organizations who had no allegations is another thing entirely.

Also, in my personal opinion I believe that issues that are this serious should be conducted by the police, the american judicial system, and professionals, not a group of PHD's and grad assistants who have their own view of how things should be done. The concept of "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" and "innocent until proven guilty" has come up and for those of you that don't know, Clemson does not abide by that. Clemson practices preponderance of the evidence and holds parties as guilty until they can prove that they are innocent. It baffles me that the office of student affairs could have the audacity to say you should hold parties guilty until proven innocent and charge people as guilty without needing proof beyond a reasonable doubt, going against EVERYTHING this nations judicial system stands upon, despite 200 years of refinement to our judicial process by America's brightest minds because a few have been given too much power at Clemson in the office of student affairs.

Campus Update: Clemson suspends 24 fraternities’ social, new-member activities

Trust me. This is not a smart move but an over reaction!