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Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today
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Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:21 PM

Uga is the ones that should be using the words “ We to deep” because they lost a bunch of talent last year and had studs to replace them with this year.

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Meanwhile…..

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:23 PM

We have Spector and Drew swinney playing meaningful snaps in the OB and some fans still think we’re “Elite” and we’ll “be back next year”

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Those are facts

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:27 PM

look for this thread to be banned

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Re: Those are facts

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:27 AM

Look for Pheebo to be banned or at a minimum, called a coot.

That's what this board has become...disagree with someone's opinion and those are the two results.

It was good knowing you Pheebo...I'll be next.

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Re: Meanwhile…..

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Jan 10, 2023, 5:55 AM [ in reply to Meanwhile….. ]

Recruiting .. and coaching matters..

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Exactly why Streeter needs to go.***


Jan 10, 2023, 7:13 AM



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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:24 PM

Not as much as top level coaching that helps hide deficiencies and makes 4* players just as competitive.

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What you saw tonight was elite talent and elite coaching

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:26 PM

Clemson now has good talent and below average coaching

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Re: What you saw tonight was elite talent and elite coaching

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:52 PM

Feel free to find another team because Coach Swinney isn’t going anywhere. He’s won 2 Natty’s and your qualifications to determine coaching staff is???? Oh that’s righ, Clemson is all filled up with cry baby fans

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Re: What you saw tonight was elite talent and elite coaching

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Jan 10, 2023, 2:21 AM

Shut up I'm sick of people like you!!..what has he done now that he doesn't have the elite talent anymore????? This program has been on the decline since the Lsu game but people like you fell to see that!!

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Re: What you saw tonight was elite talent and elite coaching

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Jan 10, 2023, 6:59 AM [ in reply to Re: What you saw tonight was elite talent and elite coaching ]

Calling them out doesn't mean your not a fan. The facts are ole Dabo is falling behind the other elites. Mainly because of his ole school thinking. If he keeps it we are not winning another title. Those are facts and will be proven. I don't mind 10-2 so it's cool with me. Do you like those record? With no natty??

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Don't worry, the staff can find loads of diamonds....

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:36 PM

in the ruff. You remember that Renfrow was a walk-on, don't you?

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You do realize

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:40 PM

Renfrow was one in a million right?

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I believe your meter needs adjustment

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:41 PM

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today


Jan 9, 2023, 11:58 PM

Georgia. The best team money can buy.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 9, 2023, 11:58 PM

Tonight you saw the future of college football. Whoever can buy the most 4 and 5 stars will win. It’s all about money now. I hate to say it but there is no way we can keep up with these large alumni base schools. We just can’t put together the NIL dollars that they can. Having SEC money isn’t enough, you HAVE to be able to put together big NIL packages through alumni groups and or their businesses. We simply don’t have enough of either. I will always love my Tigers but I just don’t see how we can compete. The numbers just don’t add up.

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Jan 10, 2023, 4:39 AM

This is what’s known as reality……..

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 6:49 AM [ in reply to Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today ]

Macrotiger said:

Tonight you saw the future of college football. Whoever can buy the most 4 and 5 stars will win. It’s all about money now. I hate to say it but there is no way we can keep up with these large alumni base schools. We just can’t put together the NIL dollars that they can. Having SEC money isn’t enough, you HAVE to be able to put together big NIL packages through alumni groups and or their businesses. We simply don’t have enough of either. I will always love my Tigers but I just don’t see how we can compete. The numbers just don’t add up.


(Cough, cough) Texas A&M (Cough,cough)

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DJ had NIL deals with Bojangles and Dr. Pepper, didn’t he?

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Jan 10, 2023, 7:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today ]

His NIL deals supposedly were valued in the millions.

It’s ridiculous that some of you keep saying that it’s all about money and we can’t play that game. It’s a lame excuse for why we aren’t as good as we used to be.

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Re: DJ had NIL deals with Bojangles and Dr. Pepper, didn’t he?


Jan 10, 2023, 9:34 AM

That’s ONE player JK. The large alumni/wealth schools are able to buy entire OL and DL at this point. As others have said, this is just simple math. Having great recruiters, “family atmosphere”, or any other schtick will not win it now.

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Re: DJ had NIL deals with Bojangles and Dr. Pepper, didn’t he?


Jan 10, 2023, 9:53 AM [ in reply to DJ had NIL deals with Bojangles and Dr. Pepper, didn’t he? ]

You use the same analogy to explain our woes under Brownlee. You can’t have it both ways.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 7:13 AM

Smarts opening statement last night was we are coming to hunt. Thats a big part of what we are missing now. Somewhere along the line Dabo lost that edge.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 7:19 AM

Agree with you Wrigley. We don’t that “smash mouth” mentality anymore. Georgia’s approach - “we will impose our will”. Our approach -“ we will try and take what the defense gives us”. Very different mentality!

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today


Jan 10, 2023, 9:39 AM

Uggghhh. That phrase makes me want to vomit. “Take what the defense gives us” keeps being used as some sort of poor man’s enlightenment phrase. Winners take what they want…what they think is rightfully theirs…they don’t wait on handouts.

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today ]

That is the best post of the day. So true about Dabo. We noticed it during the Covid year that the spark was gone. Not sure why but if you listen to Kirby and you listen to Dabo, it becomes obvious which one is on the hunt. Of course, Smart will probably pack it in mentally in a couple of years due to the stresses of the job. Saban is the only modern day coach who has retained the fire into his old age.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 7:32 AM

Yea, like Stetson Bennett.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 7:43 AM

Uh, Stetson Bennett? McConkey? What you saw tonight is what an elite OL will do for you, not to mention an elite DL, but Clemson has had no issues with an elite DL.

The difference is easy to identify, harder to execute: get an elite OL. With an elite OL, it doesn't really matter about the scheme, but Monken is also a great play caller.

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Tonight you saw what NIL money means today***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:00 AM

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


i dont know if they can string that many words


Jan 10, 2023, 8:38 AM

together without profanity or battery throwing

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:45 AM

Not necessarily. They don't have a bunch of 5* kids running around making plays on O. They do have more on the defensive side of the ball. But on offense they have a few 4* RBs. Their top WR was a lightly recruited undersized 3* kid. The QB is an undersized guy that wasn't recruited at all. Bowers was a 4* recruit.

What sets them apart is urgency. Kirby took the Saban playbook and improved on it. He said it after the game...the worst thing that can happen is entitlement creeps in. Said they didn't have any of that. Their 5*s play just as hard and urgently as their 3*s, and vice versa. There's a reason UGA isn't pushing for Burch, even with Muschamp on staff. He doesn't fit that profile.

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Re: Tonight you saw what 5 and high 4 stars means today

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:24 AM

The_USC said:

Not necessarily. They don't have a bunch of 5* kids running around making plays on O. They do have more on the defensive side of the ball. But on offense they have a few 4* RBs. Their top WR was a lightly recruited undersized 3* kid. The QB is an undersized guy that wasn't recruited at all. Bowers was a 4* recruit.

What sets them apart is urgency. Kirby took the Saban playbook and improved on it. He said it after the game...the worst thing that can happen is entitlement creeps in. Said they didn't have any of that. Their 5*s play just as hard and urgently as their 3*s, and vice versa. There's a reason UGA isn't pushing for Burch, even with Muschamp on staff. He doesn't fit that profile.


Oh wow!!!!

A chicken with a rational post!!!

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