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TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 11:29 AM
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Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
Clemson was ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY's updated preseason top-25. "D.J. Uiagalelei provided an early look to the post-Trevor Lawrence era in his two starts — a comeback win against Boston College and double-overtime loss at Notre Dame," USA TODAY's Erick Smith wrote. "The announced return of Justyn Read Update » |
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Re: #3 on 247
May 18, 2021, 12:25 PM
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Haha The article talks about the replacing Alabama has to do along with new OC. New QB, new WRs, New RB, mediocre Defense. But then they say how they are the most experienced at the end. Most talented? Maybe. They were just as talented in 2018 as 2020 but experience was the difference. They will drop off this season. Not a believer in Bryce Young.
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Why don't you believe in Young?***
May 19, 2021, 7:27 AM
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Re: Why don't you believe in Young?***
May 19, 2021, 10:17 AM
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I was thinking the same thing. Feels like people doubt him for the same reasons they doubt DJ Uiagaleilei, & just as illegitimately. But I'm listening, honestly.
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Re: Why don't you believe in Young?***
May 19, 2021, 1:39 PM
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Exactly, Young is a good QB. I honestly don't understand the hooplah over Rattler? He is just slightly above average and that is because of his athleticism. He is not a stud passer, he will throw a turnover but he does make plays. If he was at a different decent school like Ta&m or OkSt, he wouldn't be getting the same hype as he is at Okla and their success QBs with Riley as coach.
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Rattler is legit
May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM
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He may have been turnover-prone as a true freshman that leaned on him from the start, but make no mistake, Rattler is legit; athletic, quick, talented & strong.
He's also got moxy, confidence, so to speak. It's a bit of an x-factor, but I bring it up because his problems last year IMO were fundamental, which means fixable. Rattler has the ability & opportunity to be elite, for sure, and he's in a scheme with a coach who is known for doing exactly that better than arguably anybody else.
I'm not certain Rattler will be elite or how high his ceiling really is, but we certainly didn't see it last year & he'll be exciting no matter what.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 11:45 AM
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Fair ranking for us. Defense is loaded but only as good, or horrible, as the last game. Many questions on offense, inexperience at QB, will the line block better, can anyone replace ETN and on and on. We will have some answers soon against Georgia.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 1:39 PM
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I just wonder how high we CAN move; we can beat UGA and move to #1, but with the remaining schedule it seems highly unlikely we stay #1 no matter what we do. I wish that weren't the case, but we're only able to control so much, and in this case we did by replacing Wyoming with UGA.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 2:36 PM
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Being ranked #1 does nothing for us, unless it is after the CFP Championship.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 3:17 PM
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Right, but being ranked less than 4 is a legitimate problem (i.e., there are only 4 CFP spots), and not having an opportunity to be ranked #1 is just as legitimate. I hate not being in control of our own destiny.
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You're never truly in control of your own destiny with a selection committee
May 19, 2021, 9:19 AM
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That said, if we beat Georgia and go undefeated we are never going to miss the CFP so we are essentially in control of our own destiny and it doesn't really matter much where we start. We could be preseason #10 right now and we would still be a lock for the CFP if we beat UGA and win out.
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Re: You're never truly in control of your own destiny with a selection committee
May 19, 2021, 9:36 AM
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Again, that's not accurate, though.
Let's put it this way, if we hadn't replaced Wyoming with UGA last year, we wouldn't stand a chance of controlling our own destiny, right? Adding UGA alone MIGHT be enough, but again, my whole thing is it shouldn't be down to crossing fingers. There are 5 Power conference champs plus ND & only 4 spots, and we've seen teams with tougher schedules go undefeated and not make the CFP, after all.
Suggesting we'd be a lock with our schedule feels like taking every other P5 champ & Notre Dame for granted; two of them will PROBABLY lose, but that's the point; without the loss, we don't control our own destiny, because make no mistake, someone would have to be left out if all 6 were undefeated, and it seems unlikely that we'd be guaranteed to be safe, know what I mean? We don't have to love it, but the idea of us finding out the hard way is sincerely terrifying (again).
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Tell me the last time there were 5 undefeated P5/major indy
May 19, 2021, 9:44 AM
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teams. I'm not sure that's even happened. It's very rare to have 3, much less 5. Nothing is ever 100%, but being terrified over something that's ridiculously unlikely doesn't seem like the way to enjoy CFB.
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Re: Tell me the last time there were 5 undefeated P5/major indy
May 19, 2021, 9:57 AM
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It feels like you're deliberately dodging the point, but you're right; those teams play competitive enough schedules, too; that's why we better control our destiny to the CFP (once they lose) than anything ancillary like the Heisman.
Let's put it this way; what if Alabama played 1 ranked team, no bye-week teams, & got into the playoff every year? We'd be livid, but they also wouldn't be winning Heismans, either.
And what if we (i.e., Clemson) played 6 ranked teams including multiple conference and division winners from the year before plus 8 opponents coming off byes? We'd be livid about that too! BUT... we'd control every bit of our own destiny outright.
Make no mistake, I WILL celebrate when Notre Dame and Oregon both take their first loss & we immediately likely control our CFP destiny from there, but just the IDEA of us missing out, yes, it's terrifying, even heart-breaking. This team is elite & they don't have an elite opportunity; we just have to wait for it, no matter how likely.
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Honestly I'm not sure what the point IS.
May 19, 2021, 10:39 AM
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That our ACC schedule is too weak to ensure we get a spot in the playoff?
More often than not our schedule is going to be on par or better than the Big XII and Pac 12 champ's schedule. Sure the SEC and Big Ten teams get more opportunities to prove themselves, but that also means they are more likely to lose.
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Re: Honestly I'm not sure what the point IS.
May 19, 2021, 12:05 PM
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I understand why you'd think that, but it's not accurate is all.
But in spite of the league improving, we're still not playing Notre Dame, Miami, or North Carolina. Bad coincidence, maybe.
Fixable problem? Definitely, and always.
But I'm listening; who WOULD be left out instead of us?
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wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 12:01 PM
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Re: wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 1:40 PM
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Not that it matters; we didn't get either on the schedule again.
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Re: wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 7:59 PM
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They are on the schedule.
Its called the ACC championship game
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Re: wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 9:14 PM
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Literally they aren't on the schedule then, though, right?
And more to your point, more of those teams will likely play another of these in their own conference championship. If we do get UNC, for example, that might be great. Enough to control our own destiny? Fingers crossed I guess, but I wish they were on the schedule so we had more opportunities outright. It sucks that we keep getting hosed by our schedule, and it shouldn't be up to us or the ACC to fix.
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Re: wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 2:49 PM
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in case you were being serious... when they say "out of the acc".. they meant "from the acc".. gosh i hope you were being serious and i didn't just fall into the most gullible part of the internet.
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Re: wait, UNC and Miami are out of the ACC now?***
May 18, 2021, 8:00 PM
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Bwhahahahahahaha
+1 just for being you
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I would put UGA, CU, and OHST all above OU.
May 18, 2021, 1:03 PM
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But when will they ever learn?
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 1:37 PM
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We play one team on this list; nearly everyone else plays at least 3.
Thank God for UGA, for sure, but I hate that we don't have better control of our destiny to be eligible for things like the Heisman & the CFP.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 8:38 PM
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We do have complete control. Win them all and we are in. No speculation! Pretty simple. I will not listen to your ifs, ands, or buts because you would be wrong.
Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 18, 2021, 8:49 PM
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That's not accurate at all, though.
Again, we're not guaranteed to be in just for being undefeated; if all other P5 conference winners alone are undefeated (not to mention Notre Dame), who's left out but us? Honest question. I just don't see it, no speculation indeed.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 8:44 AM
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Your take is ridiculous. First, you’re not gonna have an undefeated team from all five P5 conferences. That’s just not gonna happen. People always get lathered up about this but it never happens.
Second, we are playing the biggest regular season game of the year against Georgia. If we beat Georgia and go undefeated and win the ACCCG (which will be against a good team) we will be in the playoffs.
If we lose to Georgia, even if we go undefeated during the regular season, we are probably out of the playoffs. Even if we play a top 10 team in the ACCCG. But even then it’s possible we could get in based on what happens to everyone else in the country. If everybody has one loss and the Georgia game was close then we still probably in, especially if Georgia wins the SEC east.
Speculation at this point is always totally ridiculous. Seasons never ever play out the way people predict. Injuries and so many other issues happen along the way as well.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 9:44 AM
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"You're not gonna have 5 undefeated P5 winners..."
LIKELY true. But you're making the same point; we NEED them to lose, THEN we can control our own destiny (never mind the # of times we've had teams in the playoff with a loss, too).
We don't have to like it. Hell, we SHOULDN'T like it, but if we don't do something about it, who will? Nobody will care for us, know what I mean?
Stop and think about an undefeated Ohio State, Oregon, Oklahoma, Alabama and Notre Dame, then throw in Clemson. Someone's out, obviously, but suggesting we are a LOCK just doesn't make sense; we only play 1 top-25 team & we don't even have any bye-week opponents (again). But we also take for granted we have a 4-team playoff; imagine if we were trying to pick the best 2 again & it becomes instantly clear how little we'd control our own destiny. The CFP has been immeasurably beneficial for us in spite of the ACC being the opposite.
Here's my whole thing; this team IS elite. We agree on that, right?
An elite team should have the ability to control its destiny outright, and including for things like the Heisman. It's a fixable problem, too, now that we have the first-ever singular ranking system. My take is not ridiculous, & our boys deserve better opportunities, know what I mean?
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 1:37 PM
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Oh no chicken Little the sky is falling the sky is falling!
People like you are ridiculous. You’re getting all lathered up over something that has 1,000,000,000 to 1 chance of actually happening.
When is the last time we had five undefeated teams at the end of the season? By the way, I’m talking regular season. Maybe I’m wrong, but there has never been a season where all five power conferences had a team go undefeated. And oh by the way we now have conference championship games as well. So tell me, when have we had at the end of conference championship games five undefeated teams? And all five of those teams represent the five power conferences? The odds of that happening are astronomical!
But even if it happens so what? We have the biggest regular season game of the year on our schedule. We will play a top 10 team most probably in the ACCCG. If it happens we will not be the one on the outside looking in if we take care of our business.
Ergo, as usual, Clemson controls Clemson‘s destiny. Beat Georgia in September and run the table and we are in the playoffs no matter what happens with the rest of college football. If we lose to Georgia, things get interesting. Then yes, we will need help. And we should!
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 2:39 PM
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Yeah, see, once you start insulting me I just kinda tune out. I gave you a shot, but then you insisted on more insults. Thanks, but please, if you want to have a conversation, we can try again instead.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 21, 2021, 6:05 AM
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If you call that insulting you have a very fragile ego. Also you are being totally ridiculous. Pointing out the obvious is not insulting it’s just showing how ridiculous you are.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Ergo, Clemson controls its own destiny....AS LONG AS OTHER TEAMS LOSE.
Ignoring the probability of it IS taking it for granted. And that's OK! I totally get it. It's easy to get complacent; even some of our best players have done that before.
You're saying Clemson has a high chance of becoming able to control its own destiny. I don't disagree!
But all it takes is ONCE. You keep insisting how it doesn't matter because it hasn't happened before, but stop and think IF it did, then what? How bad would it stink for OUR guys who worked their tails off for the opportunity they didn't even get? We'd be furious, of course, right?
But who would listen?...
I'm no pessimist. I'm not furious about it, honestly. But this is a fixable problem. The league fixed it on accident for a single season last year. It consequently resulted in the most-watched ACC football game in history & Clemson controlling its own destiny to more opportunities than it has in years. It's not a coincidence; it's providence, and it's absolutely fixable.
You're right, if it ever happened it would be the first time, and perhaps just as likely the last. But it would be horrible, and we would be on the outside looking in, make no mistake. Our boys deserve better, simple as that.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 21, 2021, 6:15 AM
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I seriously want what you are smoking. Actually, I don’t, because you are paranoid. What college football world are you living in? How does Clemson not control its own destiny? Do you think if Clemson goes undefeated we need someone else to lose for us to get into the playoffs? Are you six years old? Have you not been watching the playoffs the last five or six years? If every power five conference has an undefeated team do you think Clemson is the one that gets left out? That is utterly ridiculous. First we play the biggest game of the year. We’re playing a preseason top five Georgia that the critics love. We are the second best team in the country over the last 10 years. Clemson controls Clemson‘s destiny. Go undefeated and we are in the playoffs. Regardless of what happens with the rest of college football. The only way we need help getting into the playoffs is if we lose to Georgia. If we lose to Georgia, it’s going to be interesting. But otherwise, win and we are in!
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 1:56 PM
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We would be in! Your very "What if?" scenario and we are still. We are preseason ranked higher than Oregon and Oregon doesn't play a top 5 team. They would never jump us if we were undefeated. But as others mentioned, there is no way your scenario happened where all 5 P5's are undefeated. Go ahead and carry-on with your fantasy what-if's.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 2:54 PM
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So you're saying an undefeated Oregon would be left out instead of us, because of UGA in week 1, correct? I'm listening, but then what; would it be enough?
I don't expect to change ANYONE'S mind that it's not "us against the world" and we control our own destiny and nobody else deserves to, but sorry, I just don't think it makes much logical sense.
But here's the thing----it doesn't matter what you and I think. It never should. That's why we have the first-ever singular ranking system, a system that can solve this problem every year.
Again, take the Clemson part out of it; let's say you're right and Oregon is left out instead of Clemson, then what? We take it for granted BECAUSE we believe it's so unlikely to happen, but that's precisely my point; it only takes the one time, which would likely be the first and last time, but being so certain it couldn't be us on the chopping block is hard for me to swallow. I'd rather play Michigan or Texas or any other CFP-ranked team in week 7 instead of SC State any given year & so would every fan and the whole team, plus it would fix the problem by nature, and for every legitimately competitive team.
I'd rather try that than risk being the first team in that situation to be left out, nor would I want it on any other team like Oregon.
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I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 18, 2021, 1:46 PM
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We all know we are at the very least a top 2 team, Oklahoma or Ohio State are not beating Clemson especially after all they lost. Our O line will rise to the occasion with training & recruiting we will be much improved.
We are loaded at RB & WR, our real biggest concern is 2nd string QB. DJ better stay healthy against the dogs.
We’ll be 5 or 6 by the time the season begins & they push 3 more sec teams in the top 10 as usual. Might even rank the coots by the 1st game....lol
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 18, 2021, 1:55 PM
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Hey, at least we play the coots, LOL. Not sure how we can be ranked as high as two with our schedule unless other teams lose after we beat UGA. It doesn't matter, of course; we really only need 1 Power-5 team to lose a game (plus ND, but then again they play the max number of bye-week teams & 8 division or conference winners).
My guess is we'll likely be at or around 4 all the way into the playoff itself; it's up to us how we respond to it. Hopefully we keep our heads up.
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 18, 2021, 8:02 PM
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Reallistically, we have to beat uga and then smack the pants off the acc, especially acccg.
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 18, 2021, 8:50 PM
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Realistically, my fear is that's still likely not enough to control our destiny; we more than likely need someone else to LOSE before we have more control (never mind the Heisman).
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 19, 2021, 7:40 AM
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 19, 2021, 9:52 AM
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Hypochondriac? Isn't that like fear of germs or something?
I have a fear of us being left out of a playoff. Remember, it wasn't until barely a year ago we got UGA on the schedule to replace... Wyoming... That game alone is HUGE. Is it enough? Maybe. Is it a guarantee? I think we all know it's not once we stop to think about it; we need other teams to lose, simple as that, and I don't love that part. Hope that helps make more sense.
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 19, 2021, 1:27 PM
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I just think you are worried about something this is never going to happen. With conference championship games, we know that it is not possible for more than 5 power 5 teams (6 if you include Notre Dame) to finish undefeated. I know that has not happened since the playoff have started or at any time in my memory. I think I'll wait to start worrying when 5 or more teams finish a season undefeated and 1 has to be left out of the playoff.
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 19, 2021, 2:15 PM
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But we agree on that; it's rare & unlikely that we'll not make the playoff BECAUSE those teams will lose.
Nobody's arguing otherwise, but again, what bugs me is that's often our ONLY response. We take for granted that it's NOT up to our guys.
Make no mistake, all it would take is one time to get left out, no matter how unlikely, and by then sadly I don't think anyone outside of Clemson would listen or care. Heisman opportunities aside, not controlling our destiny as an elite team SHOULDN'T happen, and is a fixable problem.
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Re: I was hoping that Georgia would be number 1
May 19, 2021, 2:18 PM
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Let's put it this way; what if we lose to UGA? Regardless of how bad we beat the rest of our opponents, even if we get to play another ranked opponent at some point, we're completely dependent on what other league-leaders do. Certainly I'd say us losing to UGA is more likely than having 6 undefeated conference champions, but hopefully this helps explain better why I believe our guys deserve better opportunities to control their own path to the title & beyond.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 8:24 AM
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Is Oklahoma and the rest of the Big12 for that matter going to field a defense this year?
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 9:14 AM
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Doubtful. They just never do for whatever reason.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 9:48 AM
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Actually yes, that seems to be the consensus is that Oklahoma has a solidified defensive coaching staff & a legitimate execution including personnel.
We take for granted I think by nature when any team scores 40+ that the other team doesn't have a defense (including when it's us), but the sport has changed; shutouts are more rare than ever, for example.
I digress. Long story short, yes, Oklahoma is expected to be legitimately competitive including on defense & for the same reasons people use for us here at Clemson; staff, scheme, roster & experience are the main factors. Frankly I'm jealous; if we were in the BIG12, we'd control our destiny outright to both the CFP & the Heisman.
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Because why, exactly?
May 19, 2021, 10:45 AM
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Iowa State? Go look at Oklahoma's schedule and tell me what about it is so great aside from the fact they likely play the #2 team in the conference twice. Their non-con games are Tulane, Western Carolina, and Nebraska. The rest of that conference is down right now and, on paper, doesn't look any better than the ACC.
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Re: Because why, exactly?
May 19, 2021, 1:54 PM
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Yet they still play 4 times as many top-25 teams, so I'm not wrong to suggest they might likely get in above us if all things records-wise were equal. Hope this helps.
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How so? We will probably play 2 assuming our ACCCG
May 19, 2021, 2:24 PM
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opponent is ranked. They will play Iowa State and almost certainly a ranked team in the Big XII title game (possibly ISU again). That's 2 or 3 ranked opponents, but there's no guarantee of more than that. I'll hold off for now on assuming Texas is going to be a top 25 team.
At any rate, they aren't going to play 4x as many ranked teams, and there's a good chance that Georgia is the best team that either plays.
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Re: How so? We will probably play 2 assuming our ACCCG
May 19, 2021, 2:36 PM
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Well, yes, to be fair; again, even just the poll above has Texas ranked, but I'm not here to argue whether or not they should be, only that they will play 4 ranked teams by their OWN hands. We have one, UGA, which is ranked only a single spot higher than the Iowa State; hardly a coup, know what I mean?
We're not guaranteed to play a top-ten team again even if you are including (i.e., assuming, albeit with good reason) the ACC title game will be with one of the other 2 competitive ACC teams like Miami or UNC.
Bottom line, it shouldn't be up to us or the ACC or even just horrible timing (no matter how long the league struggles), & it's a fixable problem. Insisting it isn't a legitimate problem just means taking it for granted is all, & I get that for sure. Still, nobody would argue with bigger games, & last year proved it louder than the league had ever seen.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 8:48 AM
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I will never understand the fascination with Oklahoma. I’m sorry, but as far as I’m concerned, you have to prove yourself. Oklahoma repeatedly comes up short in the playoff era. Same as Georgia. Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State should be the top three starting the season until someone proves they are better on the field!
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 4 in USA TODAY updated top 25
May 19, 2021, 9:50 AM
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I dunno, I feel like we're nearly identical except our defense has been better, albeit against worse teams.
I mean, I think if we had to play every team in our conference every year, including teams with byes, and the best team twice, we might be in a similar position by nature (rather than because we're not as good as some say in August).
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What? Both teams have made the playoff a lot
May 19, 2021, 10:50 AM
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One of them is 0-4 in the CFP and the other is 6-4. Your argument that we've only been better because we have an easier path to the playoff doesn't make any sense. Getting to the CFP hasn't been that much of a problem for OU. Their problem is that they've largely been embarrassed once they've gotten there.
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Re: What? Both teams have made the playoff a lot
May 19, 2021, 12:08 PM
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"Your argument that we've only been better because we have an easier path to the playoff doesn't make any sense."
That was never my argument, though?
We are elite. We are elite in spite of the schedule, as is any truly elite team.
But an elite team that doesn't control it's own opportunity to compete for the most elite trophy should bother anyone.
You mentioned the BIG12; they added a single game and it's been responsible for multiple Heismans and playoff bids they wouldn't have had without it. It's just one game, and a guaranteed rematch at that. If we were guaranteed that game every year (like we saw last year twice thanks to the pandemic including the most-watched game in ACC football history), I'd say we could control our destiny vastly better by nature.
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Choklahoma Not Top 5***
May 19, 2021, 12:07 PM
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