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House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 5:24 PM
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Why do all Carolina fans immediately say that history doesn't matter when Clemson fans brag about 65-40-4 or Carolina's poor history in football?
For example, Carolina fans will be giving me a hard time and then, when I bring up 65-40 or anything like that, they say history doesn't matter. But then they will turn around and brag about 3 in a row over the Tigers. Is that not considered "history"? Or at least the first two of that streak are considered "history"?
If you think the "rule" should be that you should get to brag about any current winning streak (aka. 3 in a row), then that leads to my next question:
What are you going to hang your hat on when we beat you again? Are you still going to brag about your "3 in a row" because if so, well then we did much better by winning 4 in a row from 2002 - 2005. Heck, we even won 7 in a row at one point (1930s). Plus, bragging about your "3 in a row" would be considered "history" anyways so that means you can't use that at all. But maybe ya'll can get a banner put up in the stadium or rings that say "3 in a row".
I would like to hear some honest answers. I have always been confused about this...
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 5:40 PM
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I've always said on this board clemson owns us. It's just when i bring up the fact that we aren't the coots of old then all the sudden it's "coot logic". It goes both ways. You're up 25 games in the series. Freakin 25!! I don't deny that! However I love hearing the tater logic that so many claim doesn't exist. I remember this board in 2010 SWORE up and down clemson would beat us because it was your first night game of the year. That's called coot logic or tater logic. However you call it. I try to talk straight up with people on this board until people say stupid stuff and then I'll fire back with stupid stuff too. Many on this board know I'm not bad and try to look at things fairly. It's just hard for 90% of the board to do the same.
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Why because you had one good year? Has alot to do with
Apr 18, 2012, 5:43 PM
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Tenn, Fla & Georgia being down and the fact you're cheaters
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Re: Why because you had one good year? Has alot to do with
Apr 18, 2012, 5:50 PM
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Bryantiger, here's the problem with that. Can you or any clemson fan for one second give a little credit where it's due??? Look at the recruits we bring in now. Don't you remember when Tennessee stole every South Carolina 4-star and above from this state and we couldn't land a one? That's just ONE example. Could it be that maybe we are getting those players to Carolina now and that could be a reason we are equal or better to them the last few year??? See...this is a tiger board and no one will admit that by posting. But how can you now see that??? Look at clemson in the state of Florida recently. Remember the FSU days when they dominated?? Maybe they aren't so much since you are getting great players from there! When Tenn, Fla and UGA owned us it was because they were so good and now we beat them all back to back years and we don't get credit because it's just because they are bad.
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Re: Why because you had one good year? Has alot to do with
Apr 18, 2012, 6:04 PM
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FSU was cherry picking our state, too.
I will agree that those 2 schools have lost that ability in SC, but FSU gets quality players regardless.
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Re: Why because you had one good year? Has alot to do with
Apr 18, 2012, 6:06 PM
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Bobby Bowden HIMSELF admitted they were recruiting players based on website rankings and not players to fit needs. They were going after the hyped up names and not who they thought would fit in. HUGE MISCONCEPTION!
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can you honestly say that the cheating had nothing to do
Apr 18, 2012, 7:50 PM
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with the recruits y'all got. if i am a 16-17 yr. old highly recruited ball player and visited a school that the star players were living in a all-perks provided ( limo, cleaning, etc.) up-scale hotel at little to no rent, do you think that i would not look long and hard at that. and that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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broseph
Apr 20, 2012, 1:55 AM
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that tinfoil hat be on tight, no?
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Re: broseph
Apr 20, 2012, 4:06 AM
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and if you think it wouldn't influence a kids decision, you are fooling yourself,or you are one. which is it?
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I'm not a big fan of that argument. We FINALLY took
Apr 18, 2012, 5:50 PM
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advantage of the ACC being down after being down for 8 or 9 years. That's what good teams are supposed to do.
It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the whole university exploded tomorrow (if no one would seriously be hurt) but I'm not gonna make excuses about the fact that they've manhandled us the last 3 years like no other team (outside of WVU) has beaten us.
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I honestly wasn't trying to flame or call out anyone, but
Apr 18, 2012, 7:34 PM
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I was seriously curious about the whole "history" argument. Can you clarify that?
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 5:46 PM
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Who do you believe I'd the better program right now ?
I think Carolina fans laugh at the history because it is used to make a claim about the present.
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How are you referring to program?
Apr 18, 2012, 7:43 PM
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I will start out by giving a slight edge to Carolina due to head to head.
But when you say program, do you mean relative to everyone or relative to what the program has always been.
If it is based on comparisons to their own history, then Carolina is in better shape because they have never really had success until this past year. The only way Clemson can match their success is by winning the national title.
If it is based on a national scale, then I might say Clemson. Right now, Carolina has an old coach who is about to retire in a few years and they just lost their best coach is Ellis. As for Clemson, we just won our conference and we have a coaching staff that is young and very good. I honestly feel that our program is headed in the right direction. It still has plenty of room to grow. As for Carolina, I just don't see the program as a whole growing too much more under this current staff. I honestly feel that after Spurrer, they need to go get a young, hungry coach.
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Re: How are you referring to program?
Apr 18, 2012, 8:01 PM
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I wouldn't say the coaches at Clemson are locked in after this coming year. If Clemson has success like they did last year, then schools are going to go after Morris and BV. Both want to be a HC and if the right school comes around, then I don't see anything stopping them.
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What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 5:49 PM
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Why are the majority of your fan base offended and pissed off by Coach sweeneys comments
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 5:54 PM
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Not me. Spurrier talks crap all the time. If you are reffering to the fake Q&A that David Hood set up after we crushed you then the answer is no. Dabo didn't do his research and just ASSUMED Spurrier said that when it was Todd Ellis. So no I could care less what he says.
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 5:56 PM
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No ...the recent comment when he talked about turning the tide back in the rivalry and that we had bigger plans than just beating yall..Seems most on fgf are pissed
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 6:00 PM
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I don't know jvtiger77. I guess they look at it as "we beat him like a drum for 3 years and he still doesn't give us any credit". I mean that's the way I look at it. It's somewhat true if you really think about it. Dabo isn't stupid. He's a smart man that knows part of coaching is keeping the fan base happy. ALL COACHES DO IT. They hope to keep it in house, but we know that's impossible this day and age. That's why i took it with a grain of salt because he's SUPPOSED to keep people interested.
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 6:04 PM
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I dont see it as any kind of disrespect at all...He knows thats what he has to do and why wouldnt he say that is something we plan to do. But also in no way should that game be #1 priority for either team
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 6:09 PM
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It's not to Spurrier and that's why we've won 3 straight in my opinion. For the fans...yes. However Spurrier wants to win the SEC before beating clemson. Several Carolina fans didn't like those comments, but it's made our players play more loose against clemson and that's a fact. Loose Boltz made banners on every freakin corner that said "Beat Clemson". How'd that work out Lou??? Spurrier comes in and says our job is to try to play a little better than the week before and hopefully play our best game of the season. HUGE DIFFERENCE and it's shown on the field.
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LOL. What a bunch of nonsense...
Apr 18, 2012, 11:28 PM
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"Spurrier wants to win the SEC before beating clemson"
YOUR coach has seen to it that you've had 2 weeks to prepare for Clemson for several years. He has placed an obvious focus on the Clemson game.
Anything else you try to say is BS. You're full of it.
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Re: LOL. What a bunch of nonsense...
Apr 19, 2012, 6:41 PM
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You clowns will make any excuse as to why you have lost to SC the past three years.
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Re: LOL. What a bunch of nonsense...
Apr 19, 2012, 6:56 PM
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To be fair, the whole SEC has made sure they've had two weeks' worth of prep before rivalry games.
It's cheesy and cowardly, but it keeps their conference looking good.
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Think about this...
Apr 19, 2012, 10:16 PM
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It should be a priority, especially for Clemson, because if Clemson is unable to beat Carolina while they are "up" and the ACC is "down" then they will never have an opportunity to play for a national title.
Clemson fans talk about history, recent and past, in context of the state of the program. Since the program has won an ACC Championship and has played in a BCS bowl game, how can the program continue to grow? First, it can get back to a BCS game and win. Then what? Play for a National Championship. This will never happen if Clemson continues to lose to Carolina, whether Carolina is better or worse.
Therefore it has to be a priority for Clemson to beat their rival. It certainly is a priority for Carolina, whether Spurrier admits it or not. I have a feeling Spurrier downplays the game to the media because that is the Spurrier being Spurrier. He does it to slight Clemson.
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FGF is like Tigernet except maybe a tad worse as in
Apr 18, 2012, 6:02 PM
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there are a ton of idiots, like us, who don't quite represent the fanbase as a whole who post.
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Although graduates of Clemson, especially the last 10 years,
Apr 18, 2012, 6:05 PM
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are far and above more educated than your average SCar graduate.
Trust me. I remember going to high school with some people who ended up there.
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 6:41 PM
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Dabo said and this is a direct quote "wether Spurdick said it or didn't say it he could careless but he must have said it because it is what Wed. and he hasn't rebuted the comments" then he went on the rant I swear most of you people sound like a bunch of women on here Grab something talk about it and don't even know what your talking about, You Usuck coach had a chance to clear the air and he didn't until after it was responded to so there
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Direct quote? "Spurdick"?
Apr 18, 2012, 9:51 PM
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I think you took liberties with the retelling of that quote.
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If Spurrier didn't say it, your website shouldn't attribute
Apr 18, 2012, 6:57 PM
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it to him. Also, Spurrier should probably address it sooner than he did. Real convenient to refute it after it gets turned into something big.
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"...that David Hood set up..."
Apr 18, 2012, 11:23 PM
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Do you have anything to back that up?
By the way, Dabo didn't assume anything. He took the word of your school. I guess that was his mistake.
Please stop making things up. Dabo merely spoke the truth.
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 19, 2012, 6:42 PM
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I laugh at everything your coach says. He's a clown that is there to entertain us all.
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Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 5:51 PM
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I don't understand that either jc fwiw
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Re: Re: What I would like to know is
Apr 18, 2012, 6:00 PM
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Average fgf poster is retarded.
Unfortunately most sports fans are retarded.
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Its simple...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:02 PM
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ITS A RIVALRY!! anything we say that benefits us will be negatively spun by the Coots. This also can be said vice versa...that's what a rivalry is!
If they were to say we were right abt everything they wouldn't be very good coot fans!
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:04 PM
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I think history matters, but the further back you go the less it matters. Just to illustrate, the current day emotions attached to your 7 in a row back in the 30's aren't nearly as strong as a win next year would be. Time has a way of minimizing things.
I for one assumed quoting the series record was a way of numbing the pain. Is that wrong?
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:11 PM
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Not at all. If I were a clemson fan I'd do the same thing every time a coot said something. Although the overall record has lost some of the luster in baseball for obvious reasons. I don't hear clemson fans brag about that series too much.
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What is that record anyway?***
Apr 18, 2012, 6:14 PM
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Re: What is that record anyway?***
Apr 18, 2012, 6:48 PM
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169-127-2 Clemson
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Re: What is that record anyway?***
Apr 18, 2012, 7:37 PM
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Not nearly as good as our CWS record against you.
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Didn't we beat you in baseball last? Back to back champs
Apr 18, 2012, 6:15 PM
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means nothing when your last lost came at our hands.
We've dominated in the most recent history.
THOSE ARE THE FACTS
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Re: Didn't we beat you in baseball last? Back to back champs
Apr 18, 2012, 6:18 PM
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LOL...ok. You own us in baseball. We've played for 5 National Championships and won 2 of them. Congrats on your last win.
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ownage***
Apr 18, 2012, 6:35 PM
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:26 PM
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Its wrong to say that it numbed the pain. Nothing will exactly numb coot pain with all the beat downs that Clemson has put on you coots. Until you even, or go a head in the all time score. And that will never happen so, y'all will be forever in pain. Y'all hate November worst than any fan base in the nation. Even non believers in God, start praying the week before the game.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 7:40 PM
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Numbing the pain was referring to your pain after 34-17, 29-7, 34-13, but your point isn't lost. Maybe y'all should pray more. Something isn't working.
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3 wins does not a lifetime erase, cocklover.***
Apr 18, 2012, 11:30 PM
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Re: 3 wins does not a lifetime erase, cocklover.***
Apr 19, 2012, 7:45 PM
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Nope, but it's a good start.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:11 PM
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Anything that a coot says is confusing.
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I'm not going to hang my hat on anything.
Apr 18, 2012, 6:27 PM
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I don't wear hats.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 6:46 PM
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There was a thread very similar to this yesterday, but I will try to answer.
Yes, history matters. Clemson has a lot of be proud of and all that. USC - well not so much. Outside of the Heisman trophy and a few solid years in the 80s, it isn't much to write home about.
History is important, but it must be kept in perspective. It is only important in two respects in sports: If it effects the current state of a program, and in the memory/minds of fans. The farther away you get from it the less it really matters. Do games in the 20s really affect that much? Not really. The 81 championship on the other does mean a good deal - The fans remember it and it is something a program can pride itself on and sell to recruits as a fairly recent title.
As for the downplaying of history amongst USC fans. Well, wouldn't you? When the past is not so great what point is there in dwelling on it? USC has had some solid success the last two years and seems to be in good shape to continue. I think most Clemson fans would admit this. Why not look to the present and the future rather than dealing with things beyond our control.
For me personally, the last three years have added significance because they are the three years I have been at school. I'm sure most fans on here feel similarly about their college years.
Longs story short, yes history matters. There is a spectrum of significance, but all history matters. However, no one should define themselves by their history. If you have a great past, cherish it and flaunt it, but don't live by it. If your past is less than stellar, look to the future and the present. Clemson has a lot to be proud of in both regards, USC perhaps only in the latter.
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Great point
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 7:03 PM
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nobody will be proud of any NCAA violations/punishments that is put on their program but that will not stop fans being proud of their school. Its a mistake that the program must live with and improve on to be better in the future. Many schools have been through it..Southern Cal, Ohio State, and even Clemson.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 7:37 PM
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because yall never talk about georgia or georgia tech domination over clemson.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 8:09 PM
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In regards to Ga Tech, they were a dominant team when they were running up the record and would never "stoop" to play CU at Clemson. Since they joined the ACC and actually started a home and home, the record has evened out much more. CU dominated Carolina despite the yearly home field advanage for years. That's one BIG difference.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 8:11 PM
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did you go to the prowl and growl at the fair grounds aikentigger?
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Orange Blooded [2557]
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onions....unicorn....motor oil....bridge....poop.....
Apr 18, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Yea, I don't get it either.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 8:15 PM
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the point is things change, if not than yall can't ever be better than gt.
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All-In [27366]
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Asking a coot to explain anything is like playing
Apr 18, 2012, 9:20 PM
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frisbee with a manhole cover.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
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on the 65-40 matter,the coot,for the most part,exhibit the usual immaturity and childishness that perennial losers always do.they'll grasp at any straw to try to level the playing field.
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Oculus Spirit [90820]
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Tigers have more "4-peats" in series with Coots, so things..
Apr 19, 2012, 9:41 PM
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can go the other way...hopefully starting in November 2012 in Death Valley.
Go TiGERs!
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 19, 2012, 10:31 PM
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okay i will admit yall are that much better than us if you can admit that uga and gt are that much better than yall.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 19, 2012, 10:33 PM
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After the last few years, I might give you GTech, but not UGA.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 19, 2012, 10:39 PM
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41-17-4 uga 50-25-2 gt. by yalls logic yall will never be better than either.
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funny thing is you got that kind of record vs everyone
Apr 19, 2012, 11:49 PM
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including Duke.
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the thing that is even funnier than that is
Apr 20, 2012, 12:12 AM
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Clemson has a losing record to every team in the SEC (even Vandy and Kentucky, besides South Carolina and Mississippi State (1-1-1).
Since South Carolina has joined the SEC, you are only 12-8 against us, not really dominating.
Take away the games against South Carolina and Clemson's record against the SEC is an abysmal 48-123-10.
See, we know we are a mediocre program, you constantly remind us. Maybe it's time you realize Clemson is only a mediocre program as well.
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Re: the thing that is even funnier than that is
Apr 20, 2012, 1:30 AM
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House boy your overall record vs acc is 56-234 look it up #######.... Sorry I can count!
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Re: the thing that is even funnier than that is
Apr 23, 2012, 4:09 PM
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Who's record would that be?
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Orange Blooded [3974]
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We won 4 in a row from 97-00 too. My years. Woot!***
Apr 20, 2012, 2:00 AM
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 20, 2012, 11:15 AM
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1-0 is good enough for me. You're only as good as your last win.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 20, 2012, 1:27 PM
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Good Lord just look at all the posts in this thread. Its really quite amazing... revisionist history at its pinnacle. Now, I've been contemplating posting something on this website for sometime now and have always managed to hold my tongue. But this is absolutely ridiculous. If I hear one more person say anything about cheating my heads going to explode. Did you tigers conveniently forget that about how laced with cheating your precious '81 championship was. Nooooo. The NCAA quit counting your recruiting violations after 200 that year so there is no real number to show, this compared to USC 2-6 violations in the same year. Your "Championship" has a freaking asterisk so seems a bit hypocritical to say that reduced fees at a hotel and some meals were anything major. I swear man, anytime we have some success the tiger nation is so ready to come down and do anything to take it away from us because "you own the series." Well I'm sick and tired of it. I'm also sick and tired of everyone not giving us credit where credit is due. We have beaten you the last three years running (not huge accomplishment given the series record I know) But this last year we beat you when you were at your best in a long time and finished out as one of the top ten in the country. You had the 2nd best season in your schools history and won an ACC championship. This win fellas means something so do us all a favor and quit trying to take that away.
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 20, 2012, 1:35 PM
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you cheat
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 20, 2012, 1:47 PM
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"In 1981, Clemson celebrated its only national championship in college football, under coach Danny Ford, and the school’s first of any type. Less than one year later, the NCAA found Clemson in violation of a multitude of NCAA rules. These infractions ranged from improper benefits to recruiting violations.
The NCAA came down harshly on Clemson. The Tigers received a two-year postseason ban (1982-83), reduced the number of scholarships from 30 to 20 for the 1983-84 seasons and included a live television ban for 1983-84. (The complete details and violations and penalties can be found here.)
However, one thing is missing. Many of the violations listed occurred during the late 1970s and early 80's. During the recruiting years leading up to its national championship, Clemson tried to lure recruits with cars, cash, and transportation. It is undisclosed which of the recruits receiving these benefits ended up playing at Clemson, but at the very least, a few players on the '81 team received improper benefits while enrolled.
The question now has to be raised: Why did the NCAA not strip Clemson of its national championship?
Looking back at the situation 30 years later, it seems amazing that Clemson did not have to forfeit any games. Less than one year after the season ended, Clemson received heavy sanctions for violations committed in regards to players on the 1981 team. If what Clemson did was against NCAA rules, the players would have been ineligible." Quoted from Mark Berglund, Bleacher Report
I think its fair to say that you and your team are the cheaters wouldn't you say
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In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 1:56 PM
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it one little bit, do you dirt ######? Suck it, coot.
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:04 PM
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"In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like it one little bit, do you dirt ######? Suck it, coot." Wow a regular classy tigger fan. Dude if you really want to compare receiving a comped room at a hotel and some free meals with giving out cars and cash you really need to consider the old phrase "oranges to apples." As for the "suck it coot" part....look man I don't know what in the world you back woods folks are into up there in Seneca and Fairplay, etc., but in Columbia and the Piedmont we can have a discussion about football without resorting to "####" talking.
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:06 PM
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I think your comp'd rooms totaled in excess of $50,000...
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:09 PM
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Thats funny, probably was about the cost of 3 of the cars ya'll spent on that '81 championship team. Don't know for sure I'll have to get Danny Ford on the phone and find out.
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:11 PM
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not meant to be funny...I believe the NCAA mentioned around $55K in extra benefits. Now that might have inculded to the party boat for your recruits on Lake Murray, that was paid for by a booster but I can't be certain, I haven't read all the charges
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:14 PM
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In all honesty yes, I believe thats what has been alleged. But then again, Cam Newton has some stuff alleged and that didn't exactly stick. I'm just saying that to have people call us cheaters when its been documented in the past on your side is a bit much don't you think?
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:18 PM
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NCAA major FB Infractions history:
Coots 5 Clemson 4
Congrats on overtaking us in this category.
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Re: In other words, y'all got caught cheating & you don't like
Apr 20, 2012, 2:27 PM
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Well, in none of those five you listed did we sneak away with a national title did we?
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Re: House Coots, explain something to me...
Apr 20, 2012, 2:06 PM
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Your just proving to me one classy individual all over buddy.
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