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The slow fade into the football landscape
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Sep 14, 2025, 10:39 AM
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is certainly painful.
Those among us who've had highs and lows accept these things as part of life. Mountaintops imply valleys, and the valleys are more numerous.
Others get down, lose perspective, and want to play the blame game.
Coach Swinney is still the greatest coach the university has ever seen in terms of winning and losing.
I also happen to believe he is the greatest coach the university has ever seen in terms of culture and character.
But yesterday felt uncomfortably like the Bowden years, when "We're so close!" became a sort of anthem.
The $1M question of course is how long before Coach Swinney runs out of runway?
None of us little fans can know that one. We can only choose to bash the program in the meantime, or keep silent, or drink coffee and write little opuses like this one.
If I'm Neff, I'm thinking 3-5 years out, and I'm scanning the national talent pool for likely successors, because this next go-round, you aren't hiring to replace a Bowden -- you can't take a flyer on an unknown WR coach and hope for the best.
It'll have to be a name-brand who can energize the base again, and there aren't many of them out there.
Greatness is fun, but, it does come with a lot of complexities.
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Asst Coach [821]
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
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Sep 14, 2025, 11:13 AM
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You think he stays 3-5 more years?? At least 4 losses coming this year - and then losing a ton of talent and a new qb for next year..
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National Champion [7259]
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I do.
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Sep 14, 2025, 12:21 PM
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Big ships turn slowly, especially those with nine conference and two national championships.
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Game Changer [1751]
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Re: I do.
Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM
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We’re not that team anymore. There are kids in elementary school that weren’t alive when Clemson was legit in the playoff
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National Champion [7259]
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But we are still that program.
Sep 14, 2025, 5:11 PM
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National Champion [7477]
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Re: I do.
Sep 14, 2025, 5:15 PM
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How slow? It’s been 5 yrs now!
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National Champion [7259]
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Disclaimer:
Sep 15, 2025, 10:39 AM
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If this team rallies, actually wins the ACC, and makes a run (e.g., makes it to the second round) in the playoffs, reset your 5-year clock to year 0, and start over.
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
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Sep 14, 2025, 5:16 PM
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At 11.5M per year for the next 6 years after this season and hefty buyouts it is a long putt. I share your sentiment but he would probably have to be willing to work with us on an early buyout to pull it off.
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National Champion [7259]
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I grew up watching the Cowboys
Sep 15, 2025, 11:13 AM
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30 years after the last Super Bowl, they still haven't lined up the putt ... because there's one guy at the top with three faded rings who still won't admit he isn't the smartest football guy in the room.
Not comparing that guy to Swinney. Am saying that when you break that glass ceiling and win a few titles, the power dynamics shift quite a bit. As do the optics.
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Game Changer [1868]
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If he stays 3-5 more years, then the program will need to be resurected
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Sep 14, 2025, 1:14 PM
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Because it will be dead. If he leaves after this year, we still have some talent, some reputation, less of a mountain to climb. But if he stays 3-5 years, then we’ll be where we were after Danny was run out.
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National Champion [7259]
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We won the ACC and made the playoffs last year.
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Sep 14, 2025, 5:12 PM
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I don't think we will this year. But that isn't exactly falling off a cliff.
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National Champion [7477]
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Re: We won the ACC and made the playoffs last year.
Sep 14, 2025, 5:17 PM
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lol, in the ACC. Clemson wouldn’t sniff the conference championship game in the SEC or B1G.
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National Champion [7259]
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I don't disagree based on
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:28 AM
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Clemson's record against B1G/SEC teams of late.
But as long as Clemson football is in the ACC, it's Clemson football's job to win the ACC, not the B1G or the SEC. Yet.
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CU Guru [1548]
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
Sep 14, 2025, 2:20 PM
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“The $1m dollar question”
More-so the $11+ million dollar question
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Orange Beast [6442]
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
Sep 14, 2025, 2:35 PM
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I don’t think it’s that analogical
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Game Changer [1922]
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
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Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM
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Great point. I was born in ‘93 and my first cfb memory was the beat down of the Coots. But so many saturdays spent watching football with Mema ended up like yesterday. So many “we’re gonna be good this year” turned into 7-5.
It just hurts when it’s the guy who took you from 7-5 to 15-0 and now we are headed down the bell curve with the same dude.
It is what it is but it hurts!
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Re: The slow fade into the football landscape
Sep 14, 2025, 5:19 PM
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Sequence of returns risk…
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National Champion [7259]
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Not sure I follow you on that one.
Sep 15, 2025, 10:31 AM
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I don't understand the concept well enough.
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