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The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 4:17 PM
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Began when Dabo decided to turn the FB program into a cash cow for high paying jobs for inexperienced friends and family. He decided to turn the FB
program into his little fiefdom full of loyalists who unlike the players would not be leaving every year. He knew he had complete control over the program and could do whatever he wanted.
I will be shocked if he makes other than window dressing changes. Get used to Tommy Bowden type seasons or worse.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 4:44 PM
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Here's hoping you are wrong. But it would not surprise if you are correct.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 7:19 PM
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If only “window dressing changes” and he keeps the multitude of friends and family on his gravy train, expect more of the same next year. The excuses and lame promises have already grown stale .. winning matters and Clemson is no longer a Natty contender, heck ..we struggle with ACC teams now ..
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 27, 2025, 10:28 AM
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Dabo has to make a choice - either fire the bulk of his friends and family hires (and instill his ethics in new, competent coaches) or ride the gravy train as far as it will take him, knowing he has changed the family trees of several coaches who probably didn't deserve the university's generosity. Which will he choose? We will find out because I don't think the BOT/Neff will remove him any time soon.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:01 PM
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Tommy Bowden 2.0
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 26, 2025, 8:57 PM
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Even though defending his past is a weak argument for Dabo, there is validity to remembering how Dabo elevated a (by the time he got HC job, we were a) mediocre FB program into a Top 3 national power.
That means something.
Furthermore, the five years since 2020 season were all (except one … 2025) 9+ win seasons.
Tommy Bowden at his best never sniffed Dabo’s record except for 2010 and 2025.
Dabo and Clemson should be fine with another year together. Big changes are needed by Dabo in 2036 for 2027 to be justify for sustaining the relationship.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:22 PM
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I’m beginning to think it was venables who was the key to success. Yes, Dabo was a great recruiter and that was enough years ago, but not anymore
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 27, 2025, 10:53 AM
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This is true, but at some point, the coach has to produce again. He can’t cruise the next five years of stuff he did 2015 through 2020 With Brent Venables behind the curtain. Losing five consecutive P4 home games is enough to get a head coach at a big time program fired in itself
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:05 PM
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Bingo. Already there with Dabo making his friends and family rich. We are in a season worse than any Tommy Bowden season.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:32 PM
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Ye of so little faith.
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its been 5 years. not much faith left***
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:34 PM
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:41 PM
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You’re free to leave any time you want. No one is holding you hostage. Fair weather fans ARe NOT FANS
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:43 PM
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Neither are blind homers that just follow and never ask any questions.
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This is a fresh take.
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Oct 26, 2025, 8:50 PM
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Thank you for thinking outside of the box.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:01 PM
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Sorry, but comparing the last 4 years to the Bowden/Charlie Whitehurst era is an insult to Tommy Bowden. Dabo's program has literally fallen off a freakin cliff since 2021 and has been far LESS enjoyable than the entire Bowden era. Dabo is now providing a product that is below that of the Bowden product. Then we can talk about the pay for this product vs the pay for the Bowden product. In all actuality, with pay factored in, the last 5 years have been THE WORSE PRODUCT IN CLEMSON HISTORY.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:20 PM
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When you put it in the context of how much Clemson is paying for sub-mediocrity, you make a valid point.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 27, 2025, 10:21 AM
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You weren't here for Hootie and others that followed them until DABO took us to the promised land
GMAB
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:23 PM
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If that were to be the case, I assume the results will continue to decline. Not sure how much rope he has if that were to happen.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:32 PM
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I believe you will see major changes in Dabo’s program and outlook at year end. Stay tuned. He will not like most makes any changes during the year.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
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Oct 26, 2025, 10:11 PM
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JYT, I agree that’s what began our problems. I think Dabo had good intentions. He built something really special, and he thought he could sustain it by hiring folks who came up through the system, who knew it inside out, and who had bought into it. He thought that would sustain success indefinitely, even when the time came to retire. It was special because he was building good men, graduating players at a high rate, and developing young men with high moral character, while winning championships year after year.
Turns out coaches actually need experience, the “Clemson offense” only works when you have players with skills that fit that type of offense, and you become stale because you don’t bring fresh ideas in from the outside. He is just now beginning to realize his theory to sustain the program has serious flaws. Add to that an unwillingness to change with the NIL/portal era, a few key injuries along the way, and refusal to make certain players compete for their positions and perform to keep them, and you have the football salad we have today.
I think we have skilled players, but they are not developing properly, and they are not being used properly. Cade is not a drop back passer, and our line can’t blow people off the line so that our one and only back (we could be using more) can bust through for a 10 yard gain every handoff. But they have other skills, and if they were properly used, we would not be losing to less talented teams.
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 26, 2025, 10:17 PM
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LOL
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Re: The downfall of the Dabo FB Success
Oct 27, 2025, 10:00 AM
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Paying his son to be a holder is all you need to know.
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