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Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?
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Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:20 AM

I learned here that portal players are typically up for auction, and they go to the highest bidder. I'm assuming that we outbid the other suitors. What do we think the winning bid was?

Also, since portal players have been called disloyal quitters with attitude problems by many here, are we worried how this will impact our culture?

TIA.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:22 AM

You sound mad that Dabo bit the bullet?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:34 PM

No, I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong but I kinda get what he did here. I'm assuming he read the article from the interview and understands (like Brad's had to do) is find those diamonds and they don't always have to be a prima Donna looking for a handout... that there are kids just looking for a hand up.

I will apologize to everyone if I read it wrong, but jk is the only one that can say whether I got it right or not.

Judge Keller®

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All we have heard here for years is that Dabo doesn't use the portal

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:12 PM

because it is filled with players who are disloyal and/or have attitude problems, who are running from something and seeking a payday, and that to get players from the portal it comes down to a bidding war and Dabo isn't going to do that.

Ergo, since we have now used the portal, the logical follow-up question is how much it cost us to win the player's services.

A follow-up question is if we are also to assume that he's a quitter/has a bad attitude and if that will negatively impact our team culture.

These are logical questions for those who have steadfastly defended Dabo for not using the portal while attacking those who do.

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Please link 3 people saying those things about portal players

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Dec 17, 2024, 5:36 PM

Troll and a liar.

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Re: All we have heard here for years is that Dabo doesn't use the portal


Dec 26, 2024, 5:43 PM [ in reply to All we have heard here for years is that Dabo doesn't use the portal ]

Ban me if you wish, but JK is a disingenuous Dabo hater. He needs to be sent to a coot site. I am sick of the naysaying HS. WE won ten games again. Go blow your smoke up some coot's pattootie.

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:01 PM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]



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I'm thrilled! Just wondering what it cost us.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]

Getting players from the portal requires bidding wars, right?

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Re: I'm thrilled! Just wondering what it cost us.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:12 PM

No, not for good to average players.

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So you're suggesting that we used the portal to get a player who is merely good

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:13 PM

to average?

But I thought that there weren't any players in the portal good enough to play for us.

Why did we get him if he isn't a difference maker?

I'm confused.

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Re: So you're suggesting that we used the portal to get a player who is merely good

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:18 PM

Your not confused. You're just being a smartass.

Dabo didn't say there weren't any players in the portal good enough to play for us. Nobody else said that either.

What HAS been said most of the transfer portal players are not elite, which is 100% true. Most of the players available would not have made us elite. The transfer portal is not a magic exiler.

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Direct quote from Dabo.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:20 PM

“I mean, it’s really pretty simple. Most of the guys in the portal aren’t good enough to play for us. That’s just the reality of it.” -Dabo Swinney

https://www.on3.com/college/clemson-tigers/news/dabo-swinney-most-players-transfer-portal-not-good-enough-play-clemson/

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Direct quote from Troll Keller...

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:25 PM

"I'd love to see us go on a deep playoff run, although my concern would be that Dabo would use it as "evidence" that what he's doing is working perfectly. If we have one really good year out of several (i.e., temporary success), how does that make us any better than teams that do the same thing using the transfer portal?"

Actively pulling against our success to try and save face. Disgraceful (for a Clemson fan, not a troll).

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Re: Direct quote from Dabo.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Direct quote from Dabo. ]

You just backed his point up.

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Re: Direct quote from Dabo.

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Dec 21, 2024, 10:53 AM

Bumped

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Re: Direct quote from Dabo.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Direct quote from Dabo. ]


“I mean, it’s really pretty simple. Most of the guys in the portal aren’t good enough to play for us. That’s just the reality of it.” -Dabo Swinney

https://www.on3.com/college/clemson-tigers/news/dabo-swinney-most-players-transfer-portal-not-good-enough-play-clemson/


Reading comprehension and JK don’t go well together. Dabo said “most” not “all”. Yes some are all in it for the money, and Clemson won’t get them. Some are bad for the program and hopefully Clemson doesn’t get any of them either. Some aren’t either. Some are under the radar looking to get a shot at the P4 level and Clemson got one of those guys.

You want to start crap but you realize you’re on a football board…you know that same football program that has had significantly more success than your oh so underperforming basketball team.

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You should keep reading the article I linked.

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

Dabo says what he thinks about the others too.

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Re: Direct quote from Dabo.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:56 PM [ in reply to Direct quote from Dabo. ]

He's not wrong.

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If you were not so emotional in your dislike of Dabo you would have noticed

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Direct quote from Dabo. ]

the obvious difference between "most" and "all."

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Re: So you're suggesting that we used the portal to get a player who is merely good

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Dec 17, 2024, 5:28 PM [ in reply to So you're suggesting that we used the portal to get a player who is merely good ]

Tell us jk, the elite players brownell picked up from the portal, and how much he paid?

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Re: I'm thrilled! Just wondering what it cost us.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:09 PM [ in reply to I'm thrilled! Just wondering what it cost us. ]

Not for an FCS receiver who wanted a chance at D1 football. He’s a diamond in the rough, hopefully.

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Youre FOS.


Dec 17, 2024, 5:28 PM [ in reply to I'm thrilled! Just wondering what it cost us. ]

Troll

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:23 AM

Alright ,I actually agree with most of your takes, but I’m honestly starting to think you’re a troll.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:55 AM

Uh, yeah. Obvious troll. Been that way for quite a while.

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I'm not trolling at all.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]

There have been tens of thousands of posts here over the last few years by posters who said the portal is evil, players in it are problem children, and that to get players in the portal you have to participate in bidding wars. Plus, we were told that these players are often quitters who aren't talented enough to help us.

These were all reasons used to justify Dabo not using the portal.

Now we got a player from the transfer portal. The logical questions are now how much he cost, how good is he, and what is his attitude like.

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Re: I'm not trolling at all.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:41 PM

You are 100% trolling.

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It's very enlightening that you claim to know my intentions better than I do.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:54 PM

Arrogant much?

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Re: It's very enlightening that you claim to know my intentions better than I do.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:13 PM

It's not arrogance. It's rather simple deduction.

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Re: I'm not trolling at all.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:13 PM [ in reply to I'm not trolling at all. ]

Troll? Maybe.

Ignorant? Maybe.

Dishonest? Maybe.

Proud of devising questions that would lead the targets of those questions that you are some combination of the above? Definitely.

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Do you acknowledge that, prior to the start of the 2021 season, Dabo went great guns after a Center (FYI, FB teams have a position on the OL known as a Center. The BB center is not topic of this post.) from UVA. His family name was Ogundeko or something similar to that. We lost out to Michigan for the guy. He played two years for the Wolverines; I don’t recall if he made one of the All American teams.)

If you knew about this portal pursuit, then your questions reveal that you are a liar.

If you didn’t know about this portal pursuit, then your questions reveal your ignorance.

If you didn’t put any work into your questions, but had the objective of eliciting argumentative responses, then this proves that you are a troll.

Which one describes JK, I don’t know. I don’t care enough to comment further about your ridiculous posts in this thread.

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Re: I'm not trolling at all.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:33 PM [ in reply to I'm not trolling at all. ]

We don’t see you worrying about any of that every time Brad brings someone in. You fool no one…

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Re: I'm not trolling at all.


Dec 17, 2024, 4:26 PM [ in reply to I'm not trolling at all. ]

I suppose you are not exaggerating either? Tens of thousands of posts?

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You are bottom of the barrel ignorant


Dec 17, 2024, 6:22 PM [ in reply to I'm not trolling at all. ]

You wont see my post, because you have myself and about 60 others on ignore.
But for the newbies here or for the JK fanclub -

Basketball has used the portal and been very successful. Please tell me why football using the portal would somehow be detrimental to the program?? Do you even listen to yourself? You are asking questions you already know the answers to in a feeble attempt to keep trolling. It’s asinine.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:24 AM

the people who need to know and who paid are sure to know. no reason to bandy this info about

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:25 AM



I don't recall you asking this question when Brownlee signed portal players.....funny. Keep digging that hole for yourself. I hear Jamaica is nice this time of year.

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No, because Brownell didn't spend press conference and interview time

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:18 PM

railing against the portal and talking about how awful it is and how his transfer portal is in his locker room.

Instead, Brad embraced transfers early on because he knew that they are a great way to add talent and veteran experience to a team.

I am glad Brad uses the portal, and wish Dabo hadn't taken so long to.

I can't wait to see how you and others defend Dabo using the portal after spending so much time talking about how bad you think it is. I have my popcorn ready.



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I'm for taking away some of Brad's salary to pay transfers that will play for a


Dec 26, 2024, 9:37 AM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]

winning program, instead of a mediocre one.

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Dumb post.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:26 AM



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If you saw his "offer list" you might not ask this question***

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:26 AM



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I did see his offer list.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:23 PM

I assume we were able to outbid them.

But that raises another question: why does Dabo think he can contribute for us, since he has said before that players in the portal typically aren't good enough to play for us?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:27 AM

His only other offers were from little pop warner schools…hopefully we didn’t pay much at all!

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 8:33 PM

Another troll^^^^

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Everybody has been pretty on board with this addition

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:30 AM

I know you don’t actually care, but it’s interesting to see you try to stir the pot for no real reason. Maybe you should go back to Jamaica.

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I'm very much on board with this. Wish it hadn't taken so long.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:24 PM

I just want to hear from those who have been so anti-portal, stating that we don't use it because it requires bidding for players, to tell us how much it cost us.

Or are you suggesting that they might have exaggerated a bit, and the portal isn't just about paying players?

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Re: I'm very much on board with this. Wish it hadn't taken so long.


Dec 17, 2024, 6:17 PM

You just said there were 10 thousand posts on the subject, then ask if someone is exaggerating on this post. Perhaps don't exaggerate yourself before asking the question.

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bumped***

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Dec 26, 2024, 9:02 AM [ in reply to Everybody has been pretty on board with this addition ]



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Could you possibly be an even bigger "a$$ hat"?***

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:32 AM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Name calling isn't allowed on TigerNet.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:24 PM

Please review the site's terms of service. Thanks.

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Neither is trolling...

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:34 PM

something I thought you would have learned following your banishment to Jamaica.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


I'm not trolling.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:35 PM

If you can't see how logical my question is, after all of the discussion here about portal players requiring a bidding war, I can't help you.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night princess!***


Dec 17, 2024, 1:51 PM



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Re: I'm not trolling.

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Dec 17, 2024, 6:11 PM [ in reply to I'm not trolling. ]

All players in the portal do not require a bidding war. Most of the elite ones do though. Most. What Dabo did was find a guy that has the measurables we need. He also is giving him a chance to play D1 ball. He basically replaced Stellato. Or Johnson. I don't see a problem taking a chance on a few guys. Maybe he gets some 50/50 balls. Maybe he has a chance ro get in the 2 deep rotation. It looks to be a good fit, since the guy committed while on campus so he obviously wants to be here.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:33 AM

We paid him in bitcoin. So I can’t give you an exact price because the value of bitcoin keeps going up and up.

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Fair enough.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:25 PM

I was afraid it was in IOUs.

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I appreciate you taking the opportunity to show your true colors on here.

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:36 AM

Because they sure ain't orange, lady.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:37 AM

Judge hates Dabo.

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Please stop, you're making yourself look silly.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:25 PM



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He paid us***

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:38 AM



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IE, I hate Dabo and want to berth Brads children***

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:41 AM



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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 11:57 AM

I’d say minimum $350k to $500k. It’s great to see Dabo adapt and evolve with the changes.

You know I hate NIL and the portal. But, we can’t stand on moral high ground and expect to compete with those utilizing those tools. It’s like anything else, use it wisely and it will pay off. Ignoring it has given us a rough few years.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:39 PM

I seriously doubt we are anywhere near that ballpark on Tristen. This is a kid looking for an opportunity at this level instead of just a payday. Probably enough funding to help him relocate and settle in, plus a little walking around money.

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Thank you, the first actual answer to my question.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:26 PM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]



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Dec 17, 2024, 2:49 PM [ in reply to Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR? ]

LOL. No way in hizell are we paying that much for this kid. He may turn out to be a contributor but I think there is an equal chance he doesn't. That kind of money would only go to someone you knew would contribute 100%.

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:01 PM

I am happy knowing how miserable you have to be seeing us win the ACC and make the playoffs. If we somehow beat Texas your depression will be hilarious.

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LOL, whatever helps you sleep at night.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:10 PM

It was pitiful watching brownie be brownie and be too dumb to call timeout to setup a play Saturday. You never came on the board to discuss that. Let’s do that now. How many NATTY’s does your boy crush have???

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:15 PM

Dabo called me last night and said he paid $1.5 Million for him. We have to keep it quiet because he told me not to tell anyone.

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I for one hold out sincere hope

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:22 PM

That when you finish menopauze you are a much happier human

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:23 PM

The hand was obviously forced or at some point we wouldn't have a football team anymore unless it was half walk-ons. See in basic math, when you lose more players a year to graduation/portal than you have coming in through recruiting, you have no choice but to adjust. Dabo hung on as long as he could, if he wants to keep coaching, it'll have to come to this.

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Better late than never, I guess.***

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Re: Better late than never, I guess.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:30 PM

The portal is not going to change whether or not the program is elite. We would be a 10-win team regardless of whether or not Dabo had used the transfer portal earlier.

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That's a bold statement. You have a time machine or something?***

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Re: That's a bold statement. You have a time machine or something?***

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:40 PM

A time machine is unnecessary to reach that conclusion.

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Please show your work then.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:55 PM

You said:

"The portal is not going to change whether or not the program is elite. We would be a 10-win team regardless of whether or not Dabo had used the transfer portal earlier."

How do you know that?

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Re: Please show your work then.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

Because to be elite, we would have to have Elite players. We would have to have a quarterback on the level of DeShaun Watson or Trevor lawrence. We would have to have receivers on the level of Mike williams, or Sammy watkins, or Tee Higgins. We need defensive linemen like Christian Wilkins or Austin Bryant.

There are very few players of that caliber in the transfer portal. At best, most of the players in the portal are at the level we have now.

Moat of the teams that heavily use the portal are not elite. Ole Miss is not elite. South Carolina is not elite. Colorado is not elite. Miami is not elite.

The elite teams that do get 4 to 5 portal players (Georgia, Ohio St., Oregon, etc) are elite wven without those portal players.

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Re: That's a bold statement. You have a time machine or something?***


Dec 17, 2024, 3:02 PM [ in reply to That's a bold statement. You have a time machine or something?*** ]

You make these same type of statements all the time. Like when you say if Dabo doesn’t use all the tools available to him our program will continue to decline. Where’s your time machine, troll?

Here’s one from after the GA game where your time machine failed you.
“These are the words of a delusional coach.
I love the fact that Dabo is a positive, upbeat person, but I feel like he's in denial.
He keeps talking about how talented we are, how well conditioned we are, and how we are going to have a great year. Keeps repeating these same statements. He wants it to be true so badly, and I think he believes it.
I'm afraid he is going to be very disappointed.“

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:25 PM

No idea, how much does it cost to buy a basketball team every year?

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Not sure what this has to do with our football program.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:31 PM

But since you asked, Brad values the transfer portal and NIL, and has been outspoken about how both - along with facility upgrades and increased administrative support for our men's basketball program - have helped us upgrade our talent in recent years and achieve new heights as a program.

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The way Brad hemorrhages his HS recruits, without NIL and the portal


Dec 17, 2024, 3:09 PM

he wouldn't even have had 6 to put on the floor vs West Va like he did a few seasons ago. Fortunately Dabo's mastery of getting the most out of our limited NIL war chest - winning ACC championships and getting into playoffs and such without breaking the bank - offers other coaches that don't possess Dabo's retention skills more flexibility and opportunity.

You're welcome.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:25 PM

Looking at out competition was he may have been free. Holiday special.

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Is this the type of person you are in real life?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:26 PM

It must be tiresome. I will continue to thumbs down EVERY one of your posts because you obviously don’t give a dang about Clemson.

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You do you.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:33 PM

But TDing every post has to be much more tiresome than my life is.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:28 PM

You weren't paying attention.

Elite portal players go to the highest bidder. Good to average players, not so much.

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Why are we going after good to average players then?

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:34 PM

If what Dabo said is true, and most of the players in the portal aren't good enough to play for us, why this one?

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Re: Why are we going after good to average players then?


Dec 17, 2024, 1:48 PM

The recruiting class was much smaller this year.

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What does that have to do with why we are not going after better players

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:56 PM

in the portal?

You seem to be suggesting that this young man we just got is merely good to average. Why do you think he will be good enough to play for us then?

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Re: What does that have to do with why we are not going after better players


Dec 17, 2024, 2:41 PM

We have alyways good to average roke players on the team (Noble Johnson, Troy Stellato, etc.). This guy is basically going fill that role. Normally, that role would be filled by normal recruiting.

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Re: Why are we going after good to average players then?

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:42 PM [ in reply to Why are we going after good to average players then? ]

Look up “most”. You’ll find it enlightening.

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Re: Why are we going after good to average players then?

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:07 PM [ in reply to Why are we going after good to average players then? ]

This guy is being brought in for depth. I don’t think anyone expects him to start in front of our current first team WRs. This is the type of situation where Dabo has said all along he would use the portal. When the right situation and player came up.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:36 PM

They plucked this kid from the trenches... he basically committed instantly. Great job by the staff.

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I hope he's a great one.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:35 PM

And the first of many great players we get from the portal.

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We used Brad's Final Four incentive money that has been building for 14 years***

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:38 PM

If your reply is meant to come across as you hope Dabo will go after a starter or 2 in the offseason in areas of need , I agree.

Several moves have to made in the offseason with coaches and positional improvement on offense and defense to get Clemson back to a top 5 team. I really don’t believe we’re that far off, so it’s not as if Dabo has to exactly reshape Clemson Football.

Hopefully, he gets aggressive and we get back to being not only the best team in the state , but a Top 5 program

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Yes, I'd like to see us get at least 4-5 players from the portal this offseason.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:37 PM

I am a bit surprised that WR was our first one. I'm assuming that the coaching staff is expecting some additional WRs to transfer. Otherwise, it doesn't seem like a critical position of need like some of the others are.

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Re: Yes, I'd like to see us get at least 4-5 players from the portal this offseason.


Dec 17, 2024, 2:05 PM

Those 4 or 5 players aren't going to make us elite.

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Re: Yes, I'd like to see us get at least 4-5 players from the portal this offseason.


Dec 17, 2024, 3:10 PM [ in reply to Yes, I'd like to see us get at least 4-5 players from the portal this offseason. ]

Maybe it’s just the first position where a portal player was a good fit for all involved. I know that doesn’t fit your narrative but it’s probably what really happened. Dabo has said he will use the portal. But he will be just as selective there as he is in recruiting high school talent.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:38 PM

What do you think it should be? What's your plan? LOL.

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It should be based on his fair market value.

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:37 PM

And that should be weighed with how much of a need we had for another wide receiver.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:47 PM

So you gripe and complain that Dabo doesn’t use the portal then when he finally does you just ask stupid jerky questions?
But yes a team built from portal players will not be good for culture!
It will be the ruin of College sports!
Unless some rules are applied!

Look I kindly answered your jerk question!

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So you're acknowledging that the portal can be used selectively

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:54 PM

and with the same care and intentionality we utilize high school recruiting, with the goal of improving our overall talent level, especially as it relates to areas of immediate need due to current players being injured, not developing as planned, or transferring out?

And you acknowledge that it is possible to not only get players from the portal who can contribute as football players, but also successful students and members of the community?

Is that what you're saying?

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Re: So you're acknowledging that the portal can be used selectively


Dec 17, 2024, 2:51 PM

The use of the portal in the way you're describing is just going to maintain the status quo. It's not going to make us elite.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:48 PM

What does it matter....maybe 6 figures while paying our guys more?

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It matters because it has been stated here ad nauseam

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:58 PM

that Dabo won't get into a bidding war, and that is why he doesn't use the transfer portal.

Are you suggesting that this young man is the lone example of a portal player who didn't require money to get him to sign?

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Re: It matters because it has been stated here ad nauseam

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:13 PM

You are the only one suggesting absolutes on this thread. Most of us understand the gray areas involved in making almost any decision in this life.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 12:49 PM

I think the majority here have always trusted Dabo to use the portal when and how he saw fit and as needed to make our team better.

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Does this mean that you don't feel we should've used the portal before now?***

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Re: Does this mean that you don't feel we should've used the portal before now?***

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:15 PM

Now who is putting words in someone else’s mouth?

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We are definitely paying too much for your prattle.***

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:28 PM



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How do you know how much I am paid?

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:59 PM

That's between Crump and myself.

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Even if it were $0.01, it is too much.***

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:37 PM

Is it easier to field a successful ACC basketball team with 2-3 impact players vs a successful ACC football team, 7 time playoff participant and 2 time national champion?

What does Brad need to do to measure up to what Dabo has done?

If you were equally critical of Brad as you are with your sniping of Dabo, ok, but that’s just not how you work is it?

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I'm not sure what this has to do with basketball.

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Dec 17, 2024, 2:01 PM

Feel free to start a new thread in the basketball forum if you want to discuss that.

What I can tell you is that Brad was an early adopter of the transfer portal and NIL, and was very intentional about that. Along with facility improvements and increased administrative support for basketball, this has allowed us to upgrade our talent level and have more success on the court.

I wish Dabo had taken the same approach. Maybe Brad has rubbed off on him, or Dabo talked to Brad about how to successfully navigate all of this.

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Re: I'm not sure what this has to do with basketball.


Dec 17, 2024, 3:18 PM

You brought Brad into the discussion in your original post. Now you can’t take any questions that relate to the relative success of the 2 programs?

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Methinks the ol' chap is utilizing a form of communication known as

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:53 PM

"sarcasm" - "A cutting, often ironic remark intended to express contempt or ridicule."

Or in other words, lighten up Francis ;) Y'all really do let him get in your heads!

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 1:59 PM

First of all if you can read this guy is not a high profile receiver in the portal. Second the list of schools contacting him is small. This isn't a guy that is going to come in and take a starting spot from anyone. He is simply replacing Troy Stellatto or Noble Jones.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 2:01 PM

Should say Johnson. Dumb phone.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:22 PM

It’s amazing much y’all let Judge Keller ruffle your feathers or is it all just an act??

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 5:19 PM

Keller is like an in-house game here in a way. A Troll master for sure. Any opportunity to pounce on a negative or questionable take regarding Clemson folks is sure to make a fast rotation onto the boards, with lots of opportunities to continue prodding after with heaps of the same. There's a Seinfeld side to it in that learning is forbidden from episode to episode. Plus, no hugs.

The snark, backhandedness, and feigned gravitas is off putting. Snarcasm is how I would put it. Feigned attempts at sarcasm with pointed slights and false foundations.

She's a pro. I don't mind the occasional Jamaica trip here and there she earns as the board does lighten up some with more time responding than reacting.

Tigernets, huh?

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 17, 2024, 3:29 PM

I doubt we paid much, if anything up front for this player.

The comments you referenced were generally made regarding high-profile, instant impact type players who use the portal to make money instantly. This guy is being brought in to provide depth and replace players we lost to the portal that didn’t start here. Evidently he either believed he can beat out our current starting receivers or he is content being a role player who will provide depth on a team that has proven itself to be a consistent winner. Some people are happy just being a member of a successful team. I doubt anyone believes he will come in and start next year so his cost is probably consistent with that of other current backups.
But you know all this and you are just trolling as usual.

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You're much better at this than Francis , he should take notes***


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Weasel troll is gonna troll

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Dec 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

Pathetic troll

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and scoks will scok***


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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 6:47 PM

Coot.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 6:49 PM

Auctions? Bids? Sound a bit racist to me. 😳

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?


Dec 17, 2024, 8:35 PM

Is it your concern I thought you would be deeply engrossed in the basketball game which the refs are biased towards the gamecocks.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 21, 2024, 6:57 PM

Bumped

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 26, 2024, 9:26 AM

I have an estimate on your P O S level. It’s remarkably high. Congratulations.

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Re: Does anyone have an estimate of how much we paid for our new portal WR?

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Dec 26, 2024, 11:38 AM

Boy, what a bunch of disingenuous posts from JK ..... everything from taking Dabo's (and other posters) words out of context, twisting them, or plain outright misrepresenting them. For the record, I do not like the portal for many reasons, but mainly for the instability that it is seeming to create in football programs. In sports with far fewer players, it probably makes more sense, but not football. The impact on a sport like basketball with something like 12 scholarship players, where one or two players can completely change a program is different than one where you depend on many more players to make an huge impact.

No one person here has said here that players in the portal are low character people disloyal to their team, gold diggers, trouble makers, etc. etc., but I would be shocked if among the almost 2,000 players now in the portal that there are not some in there for just about every reason. I assume, but do not know, that most of them are in there for what they think is a better opportunity for playing time, or a change to to play on a winning or championship team, or for more recognition of their talent to play at the next level. Some may just not be happy at their present school. Some may not like their position coach or their head coach. Some may not feel like they have had a chance to develop.

Personally, I think the sitting out a year and having five years to play four years is still a good system. I still feel like a commitment should actually have some meaning.

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