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If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become
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If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 11:49 AM

Oklahoma State will be putting QR codes on their helmets for people to scan and donate to their NIL fund.

https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1825920457305927849

The next step will be posting a player’s Venmo account on the Jumbotron when they make a big play…

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Incredible...***

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Aug 20, 2024, 11:51 AM



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"Still mad because Lincoln freed your slaves?" - Bluffton "Race-Baiter" OrangeMan 11/21/24


Re: Whatever Happened To Just Playing Football ---

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Aug 20, 2024, 11:58 AM

This nickel and dime wheel is turning way too fast.

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Re: Whatever Happened To Just Playing Football ---

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:30 PM

Dabo needs to stick to guns and avoid the transfer portal. Winning a Natty without it solidify his stand, and bring more HATRED from the so-called College Football pundits like Joel Klatt( a fierce Clemson hater at CBS) and others.

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Clemson will never win another natty without using the portal

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:14 PM

that would be like saying Andy Reid needs to win another Super Bowl without using free agency.

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So be it. I'm a fan of the University. We can play D3 for all I care.***

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Aug 30, 2025, 6:07 AM



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You're a fan of Clemson cheering for the failure of Clemson?

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:32 PM

Brilliant!!

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If we have low player turnover, no off field incidents, a commitment to graduate

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:47 PM

players, then that is not failing. Having mercenaries come in and take money with no commitment to the university is failing.

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Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

while every other team in America upgrades those lost spots is 100% a path to failure.

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Mine and your definition of failure is different.***

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:55 PM



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Yeah my definition of succeeding isn't the Ivy League. You're right.***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:43 PM



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That's obvious***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:51 PM



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Maybe in the future Clemson University will have the professional team you want***

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Aug 20, 2024, 3:16 PM [ in reply to Yeah my definition of succeeding isn't the Ivy League. You're right.*** ]



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Don't want a professional team. Just a modern college football team

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Aug 20, 2024, 3:39 PM

that isn't trending downward

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Re: Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds

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Aug 20, 2024, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds ]

so what. most of those transfers either got in trouble, or were never going to see the field or those 17 & 18 year olds were already better than them.

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That's completely bogus.******

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Aug 21, 2024, 3:47 PM



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Re: Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:33 PM [ in reply to Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds ]

Then you will have get rid of Dabo and get one the biggest cheaters in the business. If that is the way you want to win you belong at UGA , OSU or one of the schools who want to win at all cost !!!!

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Re: Having 10-15 transfers yearly and replacing them with 17 and 18 year olds


Aug 20, 2024, 4:50 PM

It's not cheating anymore.

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It never was cheating.

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Aug 21, 2024, 3:48 PM

The old NCAA rules against it were federal law violations and blatant exploitation.

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We don't have those things

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Aug 20, 2024, 2:34 PM [ in reply to If we have low player turnover, no off field incidents, a commitment to graduate ]

Transfers are mercenaries? That's a false premise. It's a gross oversimplification.

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It's an accurate adjective for the motivation of some players and schools***


Aug 20, 2024, 3:20 PM



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Bovine scat******


Aug 21, 2024, 3:49 PM



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That's a false dilemma.


Aug 21, 2024, 3:45 PM [ in reply to If we have low player turnover, no off field incidents, a commitment to graduate ]

Clemson folks are supposed to be smarter than that. Eschew logical fallacies.

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***Never is a really really long time***


Aug 20, 2024, 1:54 PM [ in reply to Clemson will never win another natty without using the portal ]



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That has about the same chance of an Amish guy...

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Whatever Happened To Just Playing Football --- ]

...driving a horsedrawn carriage winning the Daytona 500.

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Re: That has about the same chance of an Amish guy...


Aug 20, 2024, 2:20 PM

So you're saying there's a chance...Remember, if you hang out at the back you miss "the big one".

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Re: That has about the same chance of an Amish guy...


Aug 20, 2024, 2:36 PM

Funny chit there.

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Re: Whatever Happened To Just Playing Football ---


Aug 22, 2024, 7:45 AM [ in reply to Re: Whatever Happened To Just Playing Football --- ]

Don't get so worried about Jowel Klap...he does get an opinion even if it is tainted by the SEC disease...we have lots of posters tainted by the same disease and harboring the Clemson and of course the anti ACC and Swofford pox...make enemies out of your friends and love a bunch who would not pee on you if your guts were on fire! Ain't College football just grand!

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Players need to get NIL money counted as tips to avoid taxes soon.

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:06 PM

nm

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Hospitality workers' tips get taxed as regular income; assuming they report it.***

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:39 PM



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Is it not a tip? Im sure people will be scrambling to give the bonus right after


Aug 20, 2024, 2:32 PM [ in reply to Players need to get NIL money counted as tips to avoid taxes soon. ]

touchdowns.

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in this NIL QR code scenario.***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:33 PM



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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:25 PM

how much to call a play, $1000?

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:26 PM

I am not a tech person and went screaming and yelling when I got rid of my flip phone, but how would someone be close enough to scan a helmet? Every school has an NIL link on their website so this is no big deal.

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The in-stadium capabilities after big plays will be there, don't kid yourself.***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:34 PM



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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:34 PM

Good idea! Tigers should use it as well. Kids need support.

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Kids need lessons in life to include accountability

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:39 PM

responsibility, and working hard through adversity to achieve. Throwing $$ at them really teaches them a lesson.

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Bring exploited by the NCAA doesn't teach that******


Aug 20, 2024, 1:29 PM



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Re: Bring exploited by the NCAA doesn't teach that******

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:18 PM

Well the players did sign the letter of intent and I have not seen a one that had a gun to his head to do so?

Couldn’t you say the schools exploited the kids as well? Aren’t the schools receiving all the tv money?

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MEG


capitalizing on opportunities when they present themselves.....solid life lesson


Aug 20, 2024, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Kids need lessons in life to include accountability ]

15 years ago a REALLY bad storm came through our area. A couple weeks later our surrounding neighbors were getting new roofs for free. A reputable roofing contractor knocked on our door and said he could get us a new roof for FREE. To my wife and I it felt "weird", "sleezy", "non-legit"..........after talking with neighbors who'd done it we decided to go through with it. The contractor met our insurance company at our house and showed them the "hail damage".............2 weeks later we had a brand new $10K roof for FREE. A GREAT decision to get our already 20 year old roof a FREE replacement, which paid dividends a year later when we sold.

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Man things have changed in the insurance world in 15 years.by making a claim


Aug 20, 2024, 2:40 PM

(which this sounds like it was) on a legit issue our insurance skyrocketed the next year even when we shopped it around when our existing coverage got bumped up. Insurance will essentially get their money back from you with higher premiums.

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yes....things change....take the advantage when it's there......


Aug 20, 2024, 3:00 PM

that's the point.


the economy was still hurting from 2008, so maybe that's it didn't go up a substantial amount.

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Re: Kids need lessons in life to include accountability

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:04 PM [ in reply to Kids need lessons in life to include accountability ]

Amen brother!!!

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The very epitome of "pay for play" right here to see.***

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:35 PM



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How do you keep Gamecocks out of your yard?
• Put up goal posts
What does a Gamecock grad call a Clemson Tiger grad in 2 years?
• Boss


So, if you accept money for doing anything, it's "pay to play"


Aug 20, 2024, 1:30 PM

And you are hypocritical.

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I am referring to the point that the OP linked in his post.


Aug 20, 2024, 10:52 PM

An yes, I think it is a crock of $h1t in college football. Sorry not sorry.

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How do you keep Gamecocks out of your yard?
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What does a Gamecock grad call a Clemson Tiger grad in 2 years?
• Boss


If you have ever changed jobs, the same goes for you.******


Aug 22, 2024, 7:15 AM



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I think it's brilliant.***

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:40 PM



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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Yeah I'm not getting my lazy azzzz off of the couch to scan my TV screen

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Aug 20, 2024, 12:43 PM

Hale I won't even do it to log into an app. I'll spend five minutes hunting and pecking the onscreen keyboard before walking 10 feet to scan a QR code.

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cutting edge and creative for today's game***

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:11 PM



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why's it a problem?***

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:12 PM



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Waiting for someone to hack the QR code and then instead of your donation


Aug 20, 2024, 1:24 PM

going into the general fund it instead puts malware/malicious code on your device and drains their account. Scan QR codes at your own risk!

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:39 PM

Game Over.That proves true college football is dead.That is beyond disgusting.If Clemson ever does this,I'll never watch another game.Save your arguments about how a player deserves this,that or the other.Nope.

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so the QR code is the line in the sand for you???***


Aug 20, 2024, 1:41 PM



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That's bogus


Aug 20, 2024, 2:38 PM [ in reply to Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become ]

It's the same silly kind of stuff that was said when the forward pass was innovated.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 3:35 PM [ in reply to Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become ]

I'm actively trying to start a company to do this.

For too long, we've had to deal with briefcases of cash and cars from local dealerships given to players.

I'm all about giving the athlete their due.

This all changed when Jordan got a cut from every Nike product he sold.

It's created 1,000s of jobs + given us all more access to sports.

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Think about it incontext of those lil sports: they don't make any $!!!

What if they could? What if they did?

More sports: more scholarships. More scholarships = more talented athletes = more championships.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 21, 2024, 10:22 AM [ in reply to Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become ]

Cope harder. We won’t miss you.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:40 PM

You're right but not in the way that you think you are.

This is innovative and forward thinking.

We can shake our fist at the sky about what CFB was like in the 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. but that isn't there any more. Maybe if those generations would have had some forsight and allowed for slow positive changes to be made we wouldn't be in this current situation. When it comes down to it - it's the old guards fault we are where we are; not the kids.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:12 PM

Not blaming the kids but the people that are supposedly over all this nonsense to put some type of guidance where at the end of the day more teams will remain competitive. It’s ok to pay for play but not when 5-10 universities (alum) can pay 10 times as much as the next school’s alum. Makes no sense.

Hoping a few on here are here in about 5 years and spew your rah rah BS on how this ultimately ended up.

Bluffton are you an agent? Don’t see you on many post but the ones about the pay for play. Seems strange!

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Wondered the same thing. He's either an agent or has a son playing college

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:17 PM

football or something. He's waaaay too invested in the subject to just be a casual observer.

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Re: Wondered the same thing. He's either an agent or has a son playing college

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:20 PM

Only thing he replies to. Fair Market Value?? Who knows that number especially for a kid out of high school.

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MEG


Re: Wondered the same thing. He's either an agent or has a son playing college

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:45 PM

The market knows. Their fair market value is what someone is willing to pay them.

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Nope.


Aug 22, 2024, 7:18 AM

I just don't like exploitation, and I don't like. Clemson fans reinforcing the stereotypes that our fans and skins are ignorant hillbillies.

Unlike many here, I keep up with the legal framework, I don't pine for the old, illegal NCAA rules, and I'm a out everyone getting fair market value, including college athletes.

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"Fans and alums"******


Aug 22, 2024, 7:20 AM



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You could actually edit your posts

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Aug 22, 2024, 10:59 AM

if you were a paying member.

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Wrong. Look around.


Aug 22, 2024, 7:22 AM [ in reply to Re: Wondered the same thing. He's either an agent or has a son playing college ]

Pfft.

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I am not. I have no interest in doing that.

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Aug 21, 2024, 3:54 PM [ in reply to Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become ]

I'm merely a Clemson alum that wants to win every game in every sport, to have the University do what it takes to be elite in sports, and to have our fan base stop reinforcing the stereotypes that were all a bunch of ignorant hillbillies.

If you haven't seen my other posts, you haven't been paying attention during football season, and during the conference championships in baseball and basketball, March Madness, etc.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:41 PM

It has gone from the greatest sport of them all to the sleaziest, most lawless.

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:21 PM

The whole world has gone lawless imo. Record number of laws on the books in this country and it seems things get more chaotic by the day.

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MEG


Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become


Aug 20, 2024, 5:07 PM

Crime rate is down. Turn off the news and look at the numbers.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

The entire universe works on an equilibrium in my humble opinion I was born to Parents living in married student housing in 1957 on the campus. My father said we had players then that could not read , and the school cleaned that up , then in the 70`s we had it again with guys not being student athletes . I was a walk on FB player I saw it. Dabo is doing the best of all the schools except the service academies . I am with the fellow that says my allegiance is to the school. This BOD is doing things right , this athletic administration is doing things right . I do not want to sell our souls to win a few games, I want these youngsters to leave Clemson as a Clemson MAN .

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That ignores the women that make up more than 50% of the student body.


Aug 22, 2024, 7:26 AM

That's a shade misogynistic.

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How in the heck will I be able to scan a QR code on someone's helmet?***


Aug 20, 2024, 1:45 PM



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Re: How in the heck will I be able to scan a QR code on someone's helmet?***

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Aug 20, 2024, 1:46 PM

Easy, when the TV shows the back of their helmet.

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So wait for a closeup of the back of someone's helmet, pause and scan?***


Aug 20, 2024, 1:49 PM



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Re: How in the heck will I be able to scan a QR code on someone's helmet?***

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:23 PM [ in reply to How in the heck will I be able to scan a QR code on someone's helmet?*** ]

Get the IPhone 15 Pro. You will be surprised on good that thing can zoom in. I would see it as no issue from my seats if they are standing on the sidelines.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become- translation


Aug 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

Boone Pickens has died and no one else gives us any money

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I actually like that way better than other elements of the NIL.***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:36 PM



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Good God almighty we're so far behind...***


Aug 20, 2024, 2:44 PM



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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become


Aug 20, 2024, 2:52 PM

And if they play like dookie, can we use it to take NIL funds away from them? If we are going to this level, then their pay will need to be in line with their play. I have always said about the NFL players, they always want more money after maybe a few good games or season, but they should have money taken away from them for every screw up like a dropped catchable ball (please note catchable, not a DJU 5 feet infront or over the head of pass), fumble, int, etc. Obviously it won't ever change.. but that's how I always felt it should done.

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Venmo Account


Aug 20, 2024, 3:06 PM

Posting a fake Venmo account on the jumbotron for a opposing player when they screw up labeled "Thank You Fund" would be an awesome troll move though...

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:01 PM

Bluffton says all is well it is Fair Market Value! Fair Market Value= the team with the largest alumni base will come together and come up with an NIL opportunity and give kids that have not played a down of college football stupid kinds of money. Let’s talk about fair competition like some type of salary structure.

Dang unreal and depressing to be honest with you! I may be in the minority, which I’m accustomed to, but money ruins a lot of people. The money is out there just need someone to come up with a common sense approach on making the process equitable like the NFL if this is the direction it is ultimately going to go.

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Objectivejy define "common sense approach, please.


Aug 21, 2024, 4:17 PM

Right now, what we have IS the common sense approach. It's what happens during paradigm shifts. People find creative ways to get the best out of new normal.

As for "equitable", that's never going to happen. The NFL has 32 teams. FBS alone has 131, not counting the 3 service academies.

FCS has 129. Do the math.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become

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Aug 20, 2024, 4:24 PM

This is a sad sad day for what use to be cf. I not but who wants to buy the players. I have lost all interest if all sports. It’s nothing but greedy players for the most part. A few good coaches like Dabo but it’s all about the money. You people that fill the stadium have helped to create to BS chaos. Until fans stop going to games and spending so much on NIL products it’s going be this and get worse.

I don’t expect Dabo to finish out his contract. It’s too much BS to deal with. Jeff Scott would be nuts to get be into coaching at any level. Even little league has become a nightmare.

It’s a shame as to what athletics has become. 🤬🤬😢

My daughter said adult league athletes is o longer enjoyable. To many people think it’s the pro leagues now.


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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become


Aug 21, 2024, 10:17 AM

They've always needed to pay talent to live in backwater Stoolwater, Oklahoma. There's like one way in and one way out of that one dog town. I've been there to watch my Horns and that stadium is a joke as well. It looks like a tinker toy stadium and it's all Texas money that built anything they have.
I respect OU, but not OSU.

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Wait?.. T. Boone didn't leave enough money?...***

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They should also add:


Aug 21, 2024, 10:49 PM

A Square swiper and a coin slot. Makes about as much practical sense.

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Re: If you needed anymore proof of what cfb has become


Aug 22, 2024, 7:30 AM

I got to get a QR code.

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