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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 12:17 PM
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This is all my cynical opinion. Discuss.
1) I absolutely believe Clowney has been is contact with agents in violation of NCAA rules.
2) I absolutely believe UCS and the NCAA either knows this or is willfully ignoring obvious evidence of it.
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Rooter [228]
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 12:19 PM
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So, what do you think about Clemson football?
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Hey, this is my one and only post on the topic...
Jul 24, 2013, 12:21 PM
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I am tired of hearing about it too.
But this situation is blatantly obvious and needs to be exposed.
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Rooter [228]
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Re: Hey, this is my one and only post on the topic...
Jul 24, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Not busting on you individually, just trying to quell this obsession with all things Gamecock.
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CU Guru [1404]
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 12:29 PM
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Can you share proof or reasoning versus just a blind statement?
Per your question... I disagree.
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CU Medallion [64517]
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Simply talking to an agent is NOT an NCAA violation....
Jul 24, 2013, 12:30 PM
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but if he accepted anything form the agent (a meal at Ruth's Chris for example), that would be a clear violation.
His own instagram photos were somewhat incriminating but I suspect it would be fairly simple to determine who paid for the cost of his meal at Ruth's Chris.
I have eaten there several times and with drinks and dessert, the bill is generally upwards of $100 per person which, by all accounts, would be considered a little steep for any college student.
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All-In [26968]
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I see what's happening here. This 'Jay Z' fellow is just
Jul 24, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Trying to give himself some exposure by hanging out with Clowney. Everyone wants to be famous.
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110%er [5249]
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Why would he expose himself to Clowney?***
Jul 10, 2005, 8:01 PM
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 12:36 PM
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I think the rule is that he can talk to anybody but, he can't except any money or gifts. Unless he was being followed, filmed, and recorded, it would be hard to prove that he excepted money or gifts. And none of this is going to happen before the end of FB season. So all teams on the coots schedule will face the clown one more time. For me personally, I want us to beat usuc with that clown playing. We don't want to hear them say we couldn't have beat them with their clown, if he was suspended from the team.
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Accept******
Jul 24, 2013, 12:49 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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so, you are saying he did get $, or gifts, or anything else
Jul 24, 2013, 7:26 PM
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that the ordinary college student didn't get from jay-z! because if he "except"ed them it COULD mean he didn't take them, however, if he "accept"ed them, it means he did.
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Orange Blooded [3233]
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There's no rule stating that you can't talk to an agent
Jul 24, 2013, 12:48 PM
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Reggie Bush had violations because he received benefits from the agency. These violations didn't come up until AFTER the season ended. If there are any violations with Clowney they won't be brought to light until after this season when he's long gone. The NCAA is too slow to act unless a former coach violated young boys to satisfy his pedophilia.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Or 3) I couldn't care less about Clowney, JayZ or USuCk
Jul 24, 2013, 1:14 PM
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until November
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CU Medallion [64517]
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^^^ POD ^^^***
Jul 24, 2013, 1:18 PM
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 1:44 PM
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If Jay Z truly does want Clowney to sign with his agency (why wouldn't he) For a big name player, I think it would be against his interest to give him benefits. Losing his last season in college would take away a lot of positive hype and replace it with negative hype, which would affect his endorsement deals if/when he does sign.
Plus if Clowney does sign with Jay Z it won't be because he bought him a steak dinner, it would probably be more because he's Jay Z.
Only Violation I see as possible, maybe even likely is that they he has agreed to be represented by them after he leaves, but that one would be impossible for the NCAA to prove
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 2:02 PM
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did you reply to where your proof is about clowney or did I miss it? how do you know usce is covering up info? lets get them caught if you do or are you just thinking this must be true?
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Did you miss the "cynical opinion" part of his post?***
Jul 24, 2013, 4:26 PM
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I suspect he has received something we don't know about.
Jul 24, 2013, 2:51 PM
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This could explain his new mouthy attitude.
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Clowney eating***
Jul 24, 2013, 3:41 PM
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Clowney eating
Jul 24, 2013, 3:42 PM
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At Ruth's Chris is no more incriminating than those couple of Clemson players flashing hundreds of dollars in stacks on twitter.
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CU Medallion [64517]
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Clowney is too poor to pay attention ....
Jul 24, 2013, 3:57 PM
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let alone to be dining at Ruth's Chris.
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Orange Blooded [2845]
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His Dad likely got a big raise and increased his allowance.***
Jul 24, 2013, 8:59 PM
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 24, 2013, 3:46 PM
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Having contact with an agent is not a violation of NCAA rules. It's not even a violation to negotiate for representation while you're still playing. You can't complete those negotiations, but you can sure start.
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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So far, no violation
Jul 24, 2013, 3:50 PM
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Just talking to an agent isn't a violation (as many others have pointed out) and I highly doubt if any violations occurred that they would be a.) traceable or b.) completely investigated by the NCAA until after the season. Which is good because I want there to be 0 excuses for the coots to have when we beat them in November
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Orange Blooded [4024]
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nope
Jul 24, 2013, 4:17 PM
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based on what i've read, there was nothing illegal (on clowney's part)..mr. beyonce, maybe.
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110%er [6877]
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No way in Hell ESPN will allow their media darling to miss..
Jul 24, 2013, 7:16 PM
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any games as they promote him for the Heisman.
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And how exactly does ESPN control that?
Jul 24, 2013, 8:42 PM
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What ESPN members are involved with NCAA investigations?
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110%er [6877]
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Don't be naive. ESPN is the $$ broker in college sports....
Jul 25, 2013, 12:47 PM
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and their baby is anything SEC.
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Didn't the NFL install a rule about agents and their runners
Jul 25, 2013, 9:03 AM
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interfering with non-NFL eligible athletes? I thought it was a situation where the agent could be banned from negotiating with the NFL or some such. It's the NFL's way of trying to police themselves and protect their "farm system".
So in light of this, it would be very much against Jay-Z or any other agent's interest to offer Clowney benefits. Regarding small items like a meal or some such, I think school's are constantly asking players about these types of things so they can self-report and have the player pay back such items.
Just my $0.03.
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SEC schools policing themselves... Novel concept.***
Jul 25, 2013, 12:50 PM
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All-Conference [426]
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Wanting it to happen doesn't make it true.
Jul 25, 2013, 4:40 PM
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Your obsessed with Clowney. Let it go. He's been cleared.
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 25, 2013, 10:38 PM
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> This is all my cynical opinion. Discuss.
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> 1) I absolutely believe Clowney has been is contact
> with agents in violation of NCAA rules.
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> 2) I absolutely believe UCS and the NCAA either
> knows this or is willfully ignoring obvious evidence
> of it.
"Remember, if you believe it, it's not a lie!"...G. Costanza
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 26, 2013, 1:13 AM
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I believe when a player goes on a trip to receive an award they are given free transportation and money to eat.
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Re: Tell me if you agree with this regarding Clowney and agents
Jul 26, 2013, 6:12 AM
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Sorry to bore you with facts, there is no NCAA rule barring an athlete having contact with an agent.
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Nope
Jul 26, 2013, 8:47 AM
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Lol.
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