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Game Changer [1925]
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Am I missing something with Tucker Israel?
Nov 10, 2014, 4:37 PM
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I know he's highly rated by ESPN (4star) but skimming through the top 300 he's not even listed, He's only a 3 star on rivals (and doesn't even have a national/position/state ranking)
Even looking at his offers, his only real major offers according to rivals are Clemson, LSU, Louisville, Mississippi, and Florida (if they count?) I thought he'd have way more than that after seeing these records he's breaking.
My question is-what gives? why is he not so much highly rated? These records he's breaking don't seem like just any old records being broken. Is he playing against lesser talent? Is he as good as his broken records seem to indicate, or am I missing something?
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Ultimate Tiger [34259]
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He is 6ft tall. If he was 6'3" he would have 60 offers.***
Nov 10, 2014, 4:38 PM
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He's probably about 5"11.
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All-TigerNet [12506]
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Let's just say VT doesn't even have him on their board***
Nov 10, 2014, 4:40 PM
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All-TigerNet [6058]
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LOL ! ..*
Nov 10, 2014, 9:20 PM
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Game Changer [1925]
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Orange Blooded [3245]
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Re: Am I missing something with Tucker Israel?
Nov 10, 2014, 4:41 PM
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He is also a mobile guy but not super agile or a sub 4.6 like most people are looking for lately.
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Solid Orange [1314]
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Some have said he is a product of a system.
Nov 10, 2014, 4:46 PM
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Don't know how much truth to this there is, but a while back someone posted that his high school team's whole philosophy is to pass as much as possible, going so far as to sometimes yield on defense in order to get the ball back and put up more numbers. Allegedly his coach is angling for a college coaching job.
Still, he must be executing at a very high level within the system to be putting up those kinds of stats.
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Oculus Spirit [40931]
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Re: Some have said he is a product of a system.
Nov 10, 2014, 4:52 PM
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Football is a system . Systems are systems. The "product of a system " argument is just stating that he operates his given particular offensive gameplan very well . Looking at his accomplishments , he has systemed the sh! T outta that system.
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CU Guru [1125]
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Re: Some have said he is a product of a system.
Nov 10, 2014, 9:18 PM
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Thank you! Pro-style is a system. They are all systems. Always makes me cringe when people use this phrase.
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Game Changer [1695]
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Re: Some have said he is a product of a system.
Nov 10, 2014, 4:52 PM
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There is nothing wrong being part of "the system" if you can run the system. Taj Boyd was a part of a system. Consequently, he may never be a qb in the pros. But, dang he could play in college.
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Orange Blooded [3245]
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Re: Some have said he is a product of a system.
Nov 10, 2014, 4:54 PM
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He is still averaged over 14 yards a completion for his career. Even if you were a product of high attempts that seems like a pretty solid stat.
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Asst Coach [866]
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: Am I missing something with Tucker Israel?
Nov 10, 2014, 5:00 PM
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Drew Bree's 2.0 .He's real good maybe heavily underrated. He can play.
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Clemson Icon [27792]
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Re: Am I missing something with Tucker Israel?
Nov 10, 2014, 5:19 PM
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I was on the field beside Israel for the UL game and he did not appear to be a very big guy. With that said, he is listed at about the same size as the Wake QB is and Wolford (sic) is the guy whose records Israel broke this year. He really isn't very big, I suspect he isn't very fast and he is a non athletic looking white kid !!! I have read in other reports that he is an excellent back up QB .... what ever that means. I suspect you will see a big improvement in him when the Tiger coaches get to him.
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Rival Killer [3025]
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Were you in the UL huddle taking pics:>)
Nov 10, 2014, 5:34 PM
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Clemson Icon [27792]
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Re: Were you in the UL huddle taking pics:>)
Nov 10, 2014, 5:36 PM
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Actually I do have a pic of Israel.
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Rival Killer [3025]
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Re: Were you in the UL huddle taking pics:>)
Nov 10, 2014, 5:39 PM
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Per Your Bio we have the same hobbies:>)
Always look forward to your post.
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Re: Were you in the UL huddle taking pics:>)
Nov 10, 2014, 6:03 PM
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I think he will be backing up K-Boogie for most of his career. Bryant with 2 yrs behind Watson will be deadly
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Orange Elite [5193]
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yep.***
Nov 10, 2014, 6:20 PM
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Game Day Hero [4159]
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It's definitely his height...
Nov 10, 2014, 5:38 PM
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He's probably all of 5'10. Dude is a baller though. Imo, he's actually better than Chad Kelly when he came out of high school...MUCH better. Not only because he's a better passer and a good runner but like Deshaun, he's run a similar offense to ours in high school. He'll instantly be able to come in an provide a quality backup to Deshaun next year.
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Orange Elite [5193]
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yes.***
Nov 10, 2014, 6:19 PM
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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rivals is an $EC homer site, so yeah they will have him...
Nov 10, 2014, 6:32 PM
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rated lower than ESPN. ESPN actually doesn't bring their $EC bias into recruiting rankings.
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Tiger Spirit [9377]
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I beg to differ
Nov 10, 2014, 7:48 PM
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I remember watching some of the ESPNU recruiting stuff this summer, and Luginbill was discussing players moving up in the rankings. He said one of Bama's recruits was bumped up because he committed to the Tide and he fit their system. I guess when you commit to an SEC school you instantly get better.
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Associate AD [1074]
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Re: I beg to differ
Nov 10, 2014, 8:53 PM
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SEC offer is worth an additional star...
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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Also, his level of competition is weak.***
Nov 10, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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You can probably get 50 different answers from the board.
Nov 10, 2014, 9:11 PM
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The opinions that really count on a recruit the the coaches and they are completely sold. Also I would think that the schools you listed count. Not like they are bottom of the barrel schools.
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