Replies: 11
| visibility 1
|
All-In [36409]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 21512
Joined: 10/27/03
|
The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 12:19 PM
|
|
Parallels the collapse of the Soviet Communist regime. The NCAA was a self-serving central authoritarian governing body who could not adapt to a changing world and the free economy of the post cold war Russian states.
Who will the NCAA's Putin be to re-establish the old ways?
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2133]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 1842
Joined: 1/24/14
|
Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 12:36 PM
|
|
Politicians in liberal states started passing laws that took that role out of the NCAA's hands. I think once Washington took it upon themselves the NCAA just through their hands up. Something got to give because this is going to get way worse. The NIL is a players driven source of income not suppose to be a company announcing if you come here you have a million dollars waiting. Thats illegal and not sure why the NCAA hasn't came out and said anything bc they are still the governing body, allegedly. This is what happens when you have no nothing politicians that can't look deeper than the surface pushing agendas. When this first came up universities should have nipped it in the bud by breaking down what each individual player receives in terms of perks and advantages normal students do not receive. Which through my crude calculations is hundreds of thousands of dollars per year per student athlete.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4745]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8641
Joined: 2/7/02
|
Since when did Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Jan 6, 2022, 12:49 PM
|
|
South Carolina, West Virginia, Louisiana, and Mississippi all become liberal states? Oh man, THAT is too funny!
|
|
|
|
|
Team Captain [453]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 465
Joined: 6/5/10
|
Re: Since when did Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Jan 6, 2022, 12:58 PM
|
|
This started out west where the liberals ruin everything. Once they passed the law everyone else had to follow or fall behind.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2861]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4310
Joined: 8/30/08
|
Re: Since when did Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Jan 6, 2022, 8:28 PM
[ in reply to Since when did Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, ] |
|
West Virginia does have Joe Manchin. So there is that.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [67844]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 115473
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 12:56 PM
|
|
Their plan put the OH St AD in charge of a committee on this. I'm amazed it isnt even worse and more crooked than it is given that
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10782]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6140
Joined: 1/28/04
|
Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 1:40 PM
|
|
won't be swoffie.
|
|
|
|
|
Standout [345]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 413
Joined: 8/28/05
|
Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 2:21 PM
|
|
I keep seeing this but I just don't get it. What is the NCAA going to do?
In a 9-0 decision the SCOTUS said the NCAA can #### off and students (athlete or not) can earn what they want. Nothing anyone can do about it. State legislators have some leeway but Judge Kavanaugh, who wrote the opinion, was pretty direct about what he thought of this whole thing:
“Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. … The NCAA is not above the law.”
It sucks from a fairness perspective but college sports are going to operate in free market mode going forward. The more popular the sport, the worse it will be. Can't afford good players? Too bad. Those that can pay the most will set the market value.
The only real hope for these sports not being completely ruined by buying players is for the people who are paying them to repeatedly not get their money's worth. That should eventually drive down what they are willing to offer into a reasonable realm where many schools have at least a shot.
I hope I am wrong, but it just doesn't look good going forward.
Now, the transfer portal on the other hand, that is something the NCAA can do something about.
|
|
|
|
|
Recruit [85]
TigerPulse: 99%
Posts: 51
Joined: 9/25/21
|
Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL
Jan 6, 2022, 8:52 PM
|
|
My God but that was a cogent reply. What are you doing here other than wasting your opportunity to do better things?
I don't know the way forward for college football but see that it will probably more and more resemble the European soccer club model: academies, development leagues, minor and major clubs vying for the best talent, taking players into the system at 12 or 14. The players do get more of their commercial value (you wouldn't think it by this thread but CAPITALISM) and the academies genuinely teach school because not everyone is Mason Mount and bound for the top tier. But, the system has a lot of problems--differences in state income taxation alone will tempt American football recruits one way or another, like different jurisdictions do for footballers in Europe--but they're different ones.
It's all about how that television money gets cut up, and I'm only happy that I lived through the Golden Age of Clemson football and had suffered enough lean years to appreciate it.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3639]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5124
Joined: 4/23/19
|
Great post! Now, on the transfer portal...
Jan 6, 2022, 9:04 PM
[ in reply to Re: The NCAA's Complete Failure to Manage Transition to NIL ] |
|
Losing on NIL 9-0 was reality slapping the NCAA in the face so hard it left broken skin. Kavanaugh's blistering concurring written opinion was like throwing acid on the open wounds.
The NCAA transfer portal change was a preemptive strike to avoid losing another embarrassing lawsuit by a 9-0 vote.
Ronda Rousey was tough, until she got hit. Once hit, she never forgot it and was never the same. This is what happened to the formerly mighty NCAA.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3639]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5124
Joined: 4/23/19
|
Can we stop blaming the NCAA? Pleeeeease
Jan 6, 2022, 8:54 PM
|
|
The NCAA is a front organization for the Power 5 conferences. It serves as a shield to deflect all blame away from its five masters who dictate the organization's actions.
When it comes to NIL, I want someone to tell me what the NCAA should/could have done after the Supreme Court issued its UNANIMOUS ruling. If you can't offer anything, then what are you complaining about?
I guess it's human nature to create bogeymen out of people or organizations and blame all problems on them. It makes things so simple and ignorance is bliss.
Bottom line: The longstanding policy of college athletics (primarily football) allowing billions of dollars to flow to everyone EXCEPT athletes was doomed to collapse because it's an abomination to how we operate in America. If that ends up changing (yes, even ruining) CFB as we know it, we must accept it.
Another way of putting it: Once the dollars reached a ridiculous level, athletes were destined to join the party, especially since schools aren't paying them.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21577]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13919
Joined: 9/7/02
|
Why can’t people understand that the NCAA
Jan 6, 2022, 9:00 PM
|
|
literally can do NOTHING about NIl. It’s law.
Please people. Start reading more.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 11
| visibility 1
|
|
|