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Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:02 PM
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There's an old expression which is it's better to cut ties a year early than a year late.
We love Dabo and want him to succeed. They real question to the fans and more importantly the AD and BOT is do you think Dabo is capably of getting this program back to its top form?
I don't think in this day and age the notion of any coach having earned the right to rebuild unless you truly believe he has a plan to rebuild that is plausible. In this age of NIL/Portal it's all about what can you do for me now.
I'm conflicted because I see teams like Vandy and Indiana in the top 10 in the same year makes me wonder what they are doing that Dabo isn't...we know the answer.
If I had to make the call today, I would privately ask Dabo to look for another team to avoid being fired. Of course with a 60 Million buyout he can tell them to pound sand.
If you feel Dabo has the ability to turn it around then he most certainly should have that chance. I just don't see have being a preseason top 5 team, a National Title Contender with a Heisman candidate and potential ending up with a losing record and no bowl is something to endure with no major change
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that's not a simple yes or no question.........
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:09 PM
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Yes - I think he CAN turn us around
No - I don't think he's willing to do what it takes TO turn us around......hope I'm wrong here.
He needs to be given the opportunity to lay out an extremely detailed plan to turn this around to the AD / BOT (however that works) and if it doesn't completely align w/ how it "should be" then his hand needs to be forced or just part ways if he's not willing to "do what it takes" and "get on board".
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Here's My Problem With the Rebuild chance....
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:26 PM
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This was the year. We were Top 5 with all off the preseason hype. On paper we were one of the teams to beat and if not this year when were were allegedly loaded then when?
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Valley Legend [12772]
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I get that....Dabo is the cause for ALL OF THIS......
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:38 PM
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to me, there's ZERO excuse for letting it get to this point when many "educated football fans" (myself included) could see these problems coming over 5 years ago and were clamoring for him to change BACK THEN.
for me there is no more "moving the goalposts".........if I'm the AD, I sit him down after 2025 season.......get his DETAILED PLAN.........fill in the "gaps" as I see it and let next year play out......or he can disagree and part ways/retire/etc..
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I'm not Sure waiting Until the end of the year is a good idea...
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:47 PM
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We're on a bi-week and a lot of big programs are firing coaches. That conversation needs to happen now because if Clemson is not satisfied with Dabo's plan the Neff needs to pull from his stack of candidates and reach out to their agents to see where Clemson stands with a potential replacement.
If you wait until the end of the year like FSU posted then you may miss out on a target you want.
Ultimately I do think Dabo gets another year unless we lose out then all bets are off.
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fair point....they can have private conversations all they want
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:55 PM
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this is all assuming Graham Neff has the intestinal fortitude to do what needs to be done........I have my doubts about that as well.
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I think he can but wont.
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:09 PM
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And I don’t mean on purpose. I think he really believes that the way he’s always done things will continue to work.
Dabo’s greatest strength, that unshakable stubbornness, is also his biggest weakness. He’s great when he’s right, not so much when reality is something else
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Re: I think he can but wont.
Oct 21, 2025, 2:38 PM
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That's where strong minded coaches come
to the rescue and counter balance Coach
Swinney. I don't see that happening with
the current coaching staff with the exception
of Coach Matt Luke and possibly Coach Allen.
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That won't happen when all you hire is yes men around you.***
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Oct 22, 2025, 9:56 AM
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:18 PM
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No and this season is my reason. No depth at critical skill positions and the starters look completely clueless. We hear about talent but they look like 2 stars. Completely out of sync and out of position. Each week looks worse. Nothing about this year looks well coached. And he seems oblivious to the problems.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:23 PM
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No, because that would require massive overhauls to the coaching staff. I just don’t see Dabo firing his sons and former players.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 5:50 AM
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He could insulate himself from some of that by giving his coordinators free rein to hire the position coaches they want.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 6:55 AM
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He could insulate himself from some of that by giving his coordinators free rein to hire the position coaches they want.
No HC let’s coordinators choose the position coaches
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 9:55 AM
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At some point we are going to have to consider things we don’t usually do. That’s what change is all about if we expect a different result. His choices lately have not panned out very well.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 11:35 AM
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FWIW... seems like a good process to follow to me and one adopted by many programs
"Head coaches typically allow coordinators to pick their own position coaches, but the head coach has the final say. The head coach sets the overall direction and trust is a key factor, but coordinators have significant input into building their staff and are responsible for the performance of their respective units.
Head coach's role:
Final approval: The head coach is the ultimate decision-maker for all hires, including the coordinators and position coaches they recommend.
Setting direction: The head coach establishes the overall vision, coaching philosophy, and priorities for the team.
Building trust: A head coach must trust their coordinators to handle their responsibilities and make good decisions regarding their position groups.
Coordinator's role:
Building the staff: The coordinator often takes the lead in identifying and recommending candidates for their position group.
Managing their unit: The coordinator is responsible for the day-to-day performance, development, and schemes of their position group.
Game planning: They are deeply involved in the strategic aspects of the game plan and play-calling for their side of the ball."
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:24 PM
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The question isn't whether he's capable of turning the program around because he is....the question is whether Dabo is WILLING to turn the program around..... That would mean changing things in a direction he has been rather outspoken against.....Saban quit rather than coach in this new environment--which I can respect. Dabo, on the other hand, actually BELIEVES he can do it "his way" despite the tremendous odds stacked against him......he's like a Spanish conquistador searching for the fountain of youth deep in the Amazon jungle....he'll never reach it.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 1:28 PM
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I could see a scenario where he would just step down before submitting to the evil new world of college football.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 20, 2025, 2:26 PM
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No one wants to get back to the top more than Dabo. And he's actually done it before. Twice.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:30 PM
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He can but does he have the stomach to make the changes? To me, the bigger question is whether or not Neff has the backbone to hold Dabo accountable?
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:31 PM
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No. He has no desire to change the way he does things despite the fact that it's clearly not working.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:33 PM
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:33 PM
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Yes
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Could? Yes. Will? No.
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:49 PM
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100%
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Re: Could? Yes. Will? No.
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Oct 20, 2025, 2:52 PM
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I feel the same, but I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I’m hoping his legacy means more to him than his pride.
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No.
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Oct 21, 2025, 12:20 PM
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He has too much pride in doing it "his way" to make the changes necessary to compete in this new NIL / Pay for Play / Transfer Portal dominated era. And since that is the case, why not just ride off into the sunset? That $11.5 MILLION dollars a year coming his way, that's why.
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Re: No.
Oct 23, 2025, 3:41 AM
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Like One poster stated it's the $11,500,000 per year.
Coach Swinney is "hooked" on the Money not the
"Best is the Standard" for Clemson Football!!!
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 21, 2025, 2:02 PM
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Well, he said if Clemson is tired of winning, he'd go coach someplace else. It's been a year since we won at home against a power 4 conference team, so I don't know if he is mentally connected to reality at this point, lol! Looking at the steady decline over the past four or five years, and the debacle this year, I'd have to answer "no". Dabo has been great for Clemson, so it pains me to say that. Go Tigers!
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Dabo has never ...
Oct 21, 2025, 2:25 PM
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shied away from making the tough decisions. He fired Kevin Steele, Billy Napier (his friend) and Wes Goodwin. He will do what's necessary.
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I'm surprised Kevin Steele made it back to the plane in Miami with a job.
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Oct 22, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Napier was a place holder, and Goodwin should have never gotten a sniff of the DC position.
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When will Dabo do it? We are on year 5 of this decline.
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He will do what he thinks is necessary, which seems to vary significantly from what is actually necessary.
That’s a problem.
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Yes. This question should be asked again when the portal opens. IF
Oct 21, 2025, 3:04 PM
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he goes after 12-14 (at a minimum) players that have a chance to start, then there is hope. Anything less, and my answer to your question changes immediately to the negative.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 21, 2025, 10:20 PM
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I think he can and assume he will. I dint like what feels like a slow response to a decline we've all watched occur. But he's fired several assistants who i suspect were not easy fires.
He knows what he is currently spreading doesn't smell good. He will make moves to fix it.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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I’ll be shocked if he does anything other than not retain Riley.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 5:36 AM
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It is a simple question. Simple answer. No.
More complex answer: Anyone who thinks Dabo can get to the top misunderstands the kind of coach Dabo is, and where his strengths and weaknesses lie. Dabo was always a terrible gameday coach. His playcalling was always relatively poor. I would also say that he was never a good CEO style coach, but was once more humble and was comfortable handing reins over to the experts. What Dabo excelled at was recruiting. He could pitch Clemson as a family that would support players even after they graduated. He cared about the players, and this allowed him to win over mothers. He also had a system where he didn't process players like Alabama or Georgia, and so that let him appeal to players who wanted to be seen as more than a number. Clemson definitely played fast and loose with education requirements for elite athletes, but it did allow all of them to graduate, which was another plus for parents. So Clemson in its prime had excellent coordinators who picked their own staffs and plays, and it had Dabo helping recruit in big names. Then, those qualified to coach positions could help develop them, and players knew their time would come. That allowed us to retain players better than anyone else.
But Clemson's three strengths are all out the window now:
(1) Dabo's style of recruiting is pretty much dead now. You can pitch Clemson as a family, but that doesn't mean as much when other coaches are offering $5 million for a kid to come play. A worthless degree in PRTM or Pan-African Studies or Communication doesn't mean much compared to $5 million today. I'm likely one of Clemson's most educated grads in recent history, but I would take the money every single time.
(2) The portal destroyed Clemson's "farming" way of developing players. Why sit at Clemson for 2-3 years when you could transfer for free to Florida, get on television, and play right now? So Clemson could no longer win on just a few choice recruits and then develop them internally. They'd jump ship, which we've seen.
(3) Dabo lost that humility. He THINKS he's a lot smarter than he is and just like Belichick and Brady, he's desperate to be seen as the greatest coach of his generation, and not there because of Venables and Lawrence. He also didn't like someone like Venables who would tell him no. So Dabo hired only yes men, and those who weren't yes men, he handicapped them so he could retain control.
But even if Dabo became more humble, changed his philosophy on the Portal and recruiting, I still think he can't get to the top again. It would be changing his entire personality and mind. It would mean making his weaknesses strengths. And I frankly just don't think Dabo is that smart of a guy to be able to do something like that.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 7:00 AM
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I think one thing to consider is (even if you throw out all the NIL, portal, etc., stuff) is there’s more recruiting competition for Clemson now, especially in Georgia.
How many elite players out of Georgia did Dabo sign 5-10 years ago that he didn’t sign the last few years due to the success of Kirby Smart? And now you have Brent Key in there at GT. Going to be tougher to pull those kids out of Georgia.
But to answer the question, the answer to whether I think Dabo can get back to the top on the national level is not just no but #### no.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Best post I have read with respect
to Coach Swinney and who/what helped him
to achieve 2 CFB Championships and
multiple ACC Conference Championships.
TigerPride97 you NAILED it especially
with Coach Swinney's 3 strengths which he No
longer utilizes to his detriment and
most importantly to the detriment of
Clemson Football and Clemson University!
We agree 110% with your analysis!
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Simple Yes/No question
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Followed by 6 paragraphs.
What universe am I in right now?
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Re: Simple Yes/No question
Oct 22, 2025, 9:24 AM
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NO
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Re: Simple Yes/No question
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The question is simple.
The answer is not simple.
The OP asked a simple question and then provided a long opinion as his answer to his own question.
What he is asking is for others to share their opinions, whether short or long.
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Re: Simple Yes/No question
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FM......it is called the Land of Tnet. It is about a half inch left on a map from OZ.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Noooo!
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CAN he... sure...
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Oct 22, 2025, 10:06 AM
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WILL he? Remains to be seen.
At least three things work against him;
1) He's quite wealthy and human nature is human nature... a rare man indeed that doesn't let up when he has tens of millions in the bank
2) The landscape of his job has fundamentally shifted... this is much less a developmental sport he grew up in and loved and just pro-sports now
3) He did it his way, and admittedly had great success. But with stated landscape shift in the sport that no longer works. What reads as 'determination and vision' can quickly become 'myopic stubbornness' if the results don't follow
So I think it's inarguable that he CAN... but he might simply not WANT to. He was always a guy who wanted to develop players/men and that's just not where the sport is anymore. So he'll have to change his entire approach and that may just not be something he's interested in, especially with 60 million in the bank.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Could he or will he? He could most definitely, but will he , I’m having my doubts. His DNA is college football from 5 plus years ago. Played by the rules, got great kids and they stayed with the program. 2025 he is still doing those things which are great things but not what is needed in today’s game. Recruiting imo is over rated, with the addition of the transfer portal. Get your needs from the portal. It’s seems to be a quick fix for everyone but South Carolina and Florida St.
Target some of the studs in the FCS. In just hearing players name and where they transferred in from NDSU and SDSU seem to be great for starters. Those teams win consistently and I’m sure have guys capable of playing FBS ball. I’m fairly positive Ole Miss did not have to break the bank to get their QB this year.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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You lost me at "I'm conflicted".
Anyhoo, the only coach that could lead Clemson back to the top in the current "best team money can buy era", is Jeff Bezos or his wife. And maybe his ex-wife. Iptay would include a Prime membership.
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Simple Answer: It depends.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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I brought this up last night on the radio.
I think Dabo can but it would be the first coach to ever "fix his own fall" at the same school.
IMO, there isn't any good example of a coach staying at the program and fixing it like what we want Dabo to do for his program now.
Nick Saban never had a fall like this. Urban Meyer also never fell off and he jumped schools. Kiffin jumped schools. Mack Brown jumped schools (if you can call UNC a success or not).
Joe Paterno may be the best example. 2004 was 4-7. 2005 was 11-1.
However, it's not the same because 2004 he dealt with QB injuries and a new OC. It was a rebuilding year. In 2005 his QB was healthy, his OC was year 2, he brought in 2 speedy WRs, and the defense was very experienced.
This is not the case for Dabo in 2025. 2025 was supposed to be the 11-1 year. Everything set up how it should have. QB healthy and 3 years with the OC. WR room best in years. Defense very experienced.
The big worry I have is that none of us can point to 1 specific problem. It's a problem across the board on both sides of the ball.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 6:01 PM
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I was going to make a similar post, and then I read yours. I think you hit it on the head. There are VERY few second acts in College Football coaching. About the only one I can think of is Woody Hayes at Ohio St (he won a couple NCs in the 50s, had 5 or 6 down seasons in the mid 1960s, then rebounded and won another NC). And he went out in a blaze by punching your man in the Gator Bowl!
Not a troll post, it's just history. It's certainly ~possible~, but I'd say it's unlikely.
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Failure is just another opportunity to start over.
Yogi Berra
Dabo never gives up and has no problem starting over. I'm pretty sure he knows Job 1:21: The Lord Giveth and the Lord Taketh Away
I was at the Pep Rally in '69 when Frank Howard was booed. It was his 30th year. Howard said that he was retiring due to illness. The fans were sick of him. That might happen to Dabo after 30 years, but he still has many years before he gets there if that is what he wants.
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Rival Killer [2863]
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Define the top.
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:25 PM
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National championship? Because no, although I highly doubt the next coach we bring in wins one either. We had 1 in our whole history before Dabo. What we are seeing right now is reverting back to the historical mean for Clemson football. This means 7-9 wins a year, with an occasional year where we outperform. That is where I expect to settle in long term with Dabo. If you want better performance than 7-9 wins per year, I think you need someone else.
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Head Coach [977]
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Re: Define the top.
Oct 23, 2025, 5:33 PM
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I still think we should say we won the national championship in 1948.
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Orange Blooded [2552]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:25 PM
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As one of my brothers used to say about picking up women at bars, "Go Ugly Early!" He saw that better than milling around wating for the hot chick all the other guys were buzzing around like flies over a turd.
If Clemson has truly lost condifence in Dabo it would be better to go ugly early like Penn State just did rather than to wait around hoping for a good time that probably will not materialize. The buy out might be expensive but what is the cost to the program if this conitnues into next year and the year after that? Do we need to get down to the place where we don't seriously rank in recruiting.
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Orange Blooded [2458]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
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Oct 22, 2025, 3:30 PM
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so you're saying we really can't afford to fire him, but we really can't afford not to?
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Orange Blooded [2552]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 4:01 PM
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Bingo...
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Gun to the head?
No..
I’m not sure he would even know how to modernize the program. Tampering with the portal, bribes, etc..
Doesn’t sound like Dabo to me. And those are things that have to be done.
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Orange Blooded [2530]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 3:11 PM
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Sadly, no. Dabo has lost the hunger. It's obvious in hires and his recruiting. Good enough to be considered like he actually cares but not good enough to actually accomplish it. It sucks. I thought Dabo would be the exception but he has shown me that money even changes truly good people like Dabo.
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Orange Blooded [2458]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 3:27 PM
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Sadly, I don't think we will return to "elite" status under Dabo. May win an ACC title here and there, and maybe upset a good SEC team once in a while, but that's about it.
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Rival Killer [2863]
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And thats about what we should expect given historical
Oct 22, 2025, 8:06 PM
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performance over the last 50 years.
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Orange Blooded [2281]
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Yes he can. And yes he will.
Oct 22, 2025, 3:35 PM
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Now everyone just relax and enjoy watching our Tigers give maximum effort this year.
Our time will come … with Dabo leading the charge!!
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Clemson Sports Icon [54046]
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I think he can, but I dont think he will.***
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Oct 22, 2025, 3:49 PM
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CU Medallion [19055]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 6:20 PM
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Dabo has secured the bag. He is just biding time until CU is ready to hand it over.
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Game Changer [1644]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 8:32 PM
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Yes, he’s a smart man. He’ll figure it out.
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Playmaker [358]
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 22, 2025, 8:34 PM
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There's an old expression which is it's better to cut ties a year early than a year late.
We love Dabo and want him to succeed. They real question to the fans and more importantly the AD and BOT is do you think Dabo is capably of getting this program back to its top form?
I don't think in this day and age the notion of any coach having earned the right to rebuild unless you truly believe he has a plan to rebuild that is plausible. In this age of NIL/Portal it's all about what can you do for me now.
I'm conflicted because I see teams like Vandy and Indiana in the top 10 in the same year makes me wonder what they are doing that Dabo isn't...we know the answer.
If I had to make the call today, I would privately ask Dabo to look for another team to avoid being fired. Of course with a 60 Million buyout he can tell them to pound sand.
If you feel Dabo has the ability to turn it around then he most certainly should have that chance. I just don't see have being a preseason top 5 team, a National Title Contender with a Heisman candidate and potential ending up with a losing record and no bowl is something to endure with no major change
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Re: Simple Question: Do You Think Dabo can Get Back To the top?
Oct 23, 2025, 4:32 AM
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Whenever I read anything Dabo says, the take is always, "so no changes." Graham Neff has recently received a raise. Why?
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