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Orange Elite [5328]
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All-TigerNet [5714]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 26, 2023, 8:42 PM
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That’s funny I thought Abraham Lincoln was the republican
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 27, 2023, 7:12 AM
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The party is different from what it was in the 1860s.
"Lincoln was a Republican" is why the South was staunchly Democrat through the Civil Rights era. It is only when the "Dixiecrats" became Republicans that it all changed.
Did you not take a history class in school? Or is this the kind of thing that Republicans no longer want taught in history classes?
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All-TigerNet [5714]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 27, 2023, 8:19 AM
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Fact: Abraham Lincoln was a republican
Fact: Democrats fought civil rights
Opinion: the Democratic Party has changed
The one thing that scares the Democratic Party is a vibrant middle class of minorities and that’s been true since 1860
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 27, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Fact: LBJ was a Democrat.
Fact: Goldwater was a Republican
Which one supported the Civil Rights Act?
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All-TigerNet [5714]
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Here’s a fact that might blow your mind…
May 27, 2023, 8:01 PM
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Cool story bro. Who delivered the CRA, and who did not support it? I'll answer that for you. Dems passed the act. Inconvenient facts Baw. Now please continue your desperate attempts to deflect from this so we can keep 😆 at you.
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Paw Master [17331]
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I’ve never seen a confederate burn an American flag;
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May 26, 2023, 8:47 PM
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but I have seen a lot of Biden voters burn them.
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Oculus Spirit [43691]
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Like in person?***
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May 26, 2023, 8:50 PM
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Re: Like in person?***
May 28, 2023, 9:53 AM
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It's always fun to watch someone chase Keewee back in his hole.
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Ultimate Tiger [33365]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 26, 2023, 9:16 PM
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The Democrat Flag
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Orange Blooded [2058]
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The ones all the rednecks fly around in their trucks?
May 26, 2023, 10:20 PM
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Those democrats? Lol
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Ultimate Tiger [33365]
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Re: The ones all the rednecks fly around in their trucks?
May 27, 2023, 8:24 AM
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That'd be the one.
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 26, 2023, 9:19 PM
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I would bet the people who display that confederate flag would be the first to stand and fight for America today.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 26, 2023, 9:43 PM
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Who has murdered more US soldiers?
A. the Viet Cong
B. the Taliban
C. ISIS
D. The Japanese
E. Germany in WW1
F. GERMANY IN WW2
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G. Those who carried the Confederate flag?
I'll wait
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 26, 2023, 9:49 PM
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I think you missed the point. Of course you know that.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 26, 2023, 9:55 PM
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You deflected from the OP because it destroys the narrative.
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 27, 2023, 6:10 AM
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You truly are an idiot. Your seriously are.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 27, 2023, 11:25 AM
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What's more un-American(and racist) than murdering 300,000 US troops so your can keep AA's enslaved?
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Associate AD [831]
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May 27, 2023, 7:14 AM
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He got the point.
Your "all those people flying the redneck flag celebrating the slave holding seditionists would actually defend American against slave holding seditionists today" logic doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense.
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Paw Master [17331]
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Secession was a lawful proceeding…
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May 27, 2023, 8:14 AM
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The Union should have been arrested for “insurrection”.
The civil war was the death of state’s rights, which was a cornerstone in the founding of America.
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 27, 2023, 10:46 AM
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State's rights to own human beings as property.
I'm not surprised that you miss that opportunity.
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
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May 27, 2023, 12:18 PM
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You think all confederate soldiers fought to protect the rights of slave owners don’t you? What a shallow understanding of history.
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 27, 2023, 3:08 PM
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I can't help your denial.
Wait until you learn about the Unionist leanings of the Upstate!
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 27, 2023, 3:41 PM
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Well, my family all fought for NC. You take a very simplistic view of that war. It’s not as cut and dry as you believe. I know you probably think that every southern soldier fought to preserve slavery but that’s just a very ignorant view of history.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 1:03 AM
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Would you consider them American patriots?
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
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May 28, 2023, 6:16 AM
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They were mostly kids and young men protecting their homes and families. Most did the honorable thing and fulfilled their duty as they understood in the context. I know you can’t understand that and that’s fine.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 9:46 AM
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What were they protecting their homes from? The Big bad American flag that was going to end slavery? How "honorable" is it to murder US troops over that? I thought the narrative was that it was leftists who hate the American flag, not the Christian conservatives. LOL.
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
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May 28, 2023, 9:57 AM
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Don't forget the beer cans.
I love these conservatives who can't even say the word "slavery."
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 2:54 PM
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Can’t say the word slavery? What’s that supposed to mean?
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 2:53 PM
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What were they protecting their homes from??? Is that a serious question? How about an army in the back yard?
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 3:01 PM
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The narrative is that it's the leftists (not conservatives) that "hate America". If that's the case, then why were consevatives taking up arms against the American flag, the same one that you claim conservatives "love"? Keep tap dancing Baw.
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Paw Warrior [5022]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 3:19 PM
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My point is most were young men forced into a fight in which they had no choice. That’s totally separate from any political issue of the day. Surely you can understand that. Well, maybe you can’t. But it’s the truth.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 7:31 PM
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What I do understand is the same clowns who shake their finger at you and claim they "honor our fallen soldiers" who made the ultimate sacrifice also still honor the men and culture that put over 300,000 of our troops in the grave. Sounds pretty Anti-American, eh? This thread is gold as it has the MAGAts spinning in circles with their pathetic attempts to whitewash the treason that was the Confederacy. 😆
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Paw Master [17331]
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: Secession was a lawful proceeding…
May 28, 2023, 9:56 AM
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To protect the slavery-based economy. You don't even have the guts to acknowledge it. You probably thinking that teaching about the history of slavery in the US is CRT, right?
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 26, 2023, 9:54 PM
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I order my ho’s to wrap their tender bodies in them, and then listen to them scream the Rebel Yell as I go all Longstreet on them.
Wadda you do with yours? Please don’t tell me about using it as your diaper. I know that it’s too small to cover your back door.
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Ultimate Tiger [35140]
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What a dumb post***
May 27, 2023, 11:23 AM
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
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May 27, 2023, 10:19 PM
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We thank God we have been blessed with the ability to think and have not become a miserable leftist progressive USA hater.
We remember the fallen and are thankful the people that saved the planet from Nazis & communists and us from terrorism were not like half of American citizens today that would never fight for this country.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 28, 2023, 1:05 AM
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Do you remember and honor the Confederates who fought and died for the right to uphold the institution of African slavery?
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Paw Master [16293]
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Re: What do conservatives do on Memorial Day..
May 28, 2023, 9:55 AM
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You are resurrecting this bait. Are there no Northern conservatives? They like most Southern conservatives won’t give a thought to the Confederates nor I sadly suspect will most Americans truly reflect on the lives lost in our wars.
Lives taken in war by soldiers are not considered murder. Thankfully that is so. Confederate troops did indeed kill many Union troops and vice versa.
I think you’re naive to think that even a small percentage of Confederate troops fought to preserve slavery. The same is true for the vast majority of German soldiers during WWII.
The average German didn’t fight for Naziism or to exterminate the Jews.
German soldiers didn’t murder American soldiers and vice versa with a few exceptions.
People typically fight for their home team. That’s been true in virtually all wars.
If you’re gonna call Confederate soldiers murderers what do you call the American bombers that fire bombed Dresden.
War is very complicated.
I’m a native Southerner with relatives that died fighting in the Civil War. I’m neither proud nor ashamed of that and like most Southern conservatives don’t really give a shizz over the Confederate flag.
BTW, every slave brought ashore to this country saw the Stars and Stripes flying in various ports of entry, not the Stars and Bars.
Native Americans likewise saw Old Glory flying with the Calvary.
Life is complicated Bham.
I’ll reflect on those that gave the ultimate sacrifice tomorrow, not any flag.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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May 28, 2023, 2:14 PM
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Most southern conservatives do care about the Confederate flag and confederate monuments and get very butthurt over their removal. 300,000 US troops died from the people who made and carried that flag. Facts and inconvenient truths. But hey, keep whitewashing history.
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Paw Master [16293]
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May 29, 2023, 8:11 AM
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Most southern conservatives do care about the Confederate flag and confederate monuments and get very butthurt over their removal. 300,000 US troops died from the people who made and carried that flag. Facts and inconvenient truths. But hey, keep whitewashing history.
What history am I whitewashing? I am a life long Southern conservative and most of my family and extended family and friends are too. I can assure you none of us is as fixated on the Confederate flag as you appear to be.
Lincoln unlike you wanted to bring the country together after the Civil War. He unlike you did not consider Confederate soldiers murderers.
Under your reasoning the losing side troops in every war would be murderers?
I don't know a single Southern conservative who displays the Confederate flag in their home, on a flag pole or on a car decal. While there certainly were some folks upset with Nikki Haley's decision to sign the bill passed by the state legislature to remove the flag, that was a vocal minority.
Sure, there can be Confederate flags seen flying not only in he South but also in the North and Southwest which is odd, but most of us have moved on from a war that ended almost 160 years ago.
Our collective history as Americans is checkered with ugliness, but despite that I love this nation and respect our nation's flag, but again your finding the Confederate flag so upsetting makes me wonder why you and others don't advocate for a completely new US flag.
The importation of slaves ended in 1808, thus every slave brought in chains to this nation would have seen Old Glory rippling in the breeze when they disembarked the slave ships.
Native Americans were slaughtered, truly murdered often times including women and children, by US troops.They may have seen the Stars and Stripes before they died.
Our history has some ugly components, but nonetheless I believe in the overall goodness and greatness of this country and am glad the nation was not permanently split apart.
The Confederate flag has indeed been coopted by hate groups and I can fully understand the pain of African Americans seeing this flag, but to assert as you did in the OP about Southern conservatives using Memorial Day to obsess over the Stars and Bars is silly.
I have already reflected on the tremendous sacrifices men and women have made in the service of our country and an American flag is indeed displayed in front of my house.
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Ultimate Tiger [33365]
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