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Please stop canonizing BV.
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Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 15, 2025, 10:01 PM
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He's a football coach, not a prophet. And he's not coming back.

TYTIA.

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Nov 15, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Stop canonizing BV but keep canonizing Dabo who is a prophet. Got it.

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Who ever said Dabo is a prophet?

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Nov 15, 2025, 10:09 PM
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Either way, unlike BV, Dabo is still here.

Ah...I guess that's what's bothering you?



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Re: Who ever said Dabo is a prophet?

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Nov 15, 2025, 10:22 PM
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You guessed wrong. Try again.

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No time for second-guessing.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:33 AM
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Here it is Sunday morning, and BV is still gone. And Dabo is still here. And Clemson's on a winning streak.

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Dude you are one of the biggest Dabo bootlickers on TNET.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:44 AM
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Own it like a man at least.

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I've licked worse things.


Nov 17, 2025, 7:05 AM
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Oh boy..a hostile retort clearly from the west coast; a peculiar choice of words

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:10 AM [ in reply to Dude you are one of the biggest Dabo bootlickers on TNET. ]
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"own it like a man", sounds like San Francisco..if you comprendo my innuendo-
(Vote President Donald J Trump in 2028!)

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Re: Oh boy..a hostile retort clearly from the west coast; a peculiar choice of words


Nov 17, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Odd timing to bring this up now that it's coming out that your guy


Nov 17, 2025, 9:20 AM [ in reply to Oh boy..a hostile retort clearly from the west coast; a peculiar choice of words ]
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is a peter puffer.

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Clearly a projection constructed by your subconscious mind...


Nov 17, 2025, 8:54 PM
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You were unaware of this fact b/c your conscious mind is nonfunctional...
Ok I'll bottom line it for ya—you sir have $h¡+4Brains and currently there is no cure.
Fear not, as you will fully qualify for President Donald J Trump's Euthanasia program that kicks off in early 2028-

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Re: Who ever said Dabo is a prophet?

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Who ever said Dabo is a prophet? ]
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Does Dabo post semi-satirical articles under the moniker “Pigskin Prophet?”

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 15, 2025, 11:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Please stop canonizing BV. ]
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Exactly…lost the best coach at Clemson when BV left

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:30 AM
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BV is the best DC I can remember at Clemson. But I also remember Danny Ford had some good ones who built bone crushing Defenses.

BV still had a lot to prove as a Head Coach. I get confused with some post. Some of them have Dabo as the reason Clemson Football is having adversity this year but he does not receive credit for leading Clemson through the best History in Clemson Football.

You either give him credit for everything or for nothing. Some of the posters on Tigernet have to be Trolls attempting to cause division within Clemson Football, or we have a bunch of jump on the bandwagon when we are winning and jump off when we are losing. Either way I would not consider you a true diehard, I love Clemson fan. “ All In “ fan.

I have noticed that many negative posters are riding the Tigernet 🚌 for free. Are you 🫴🫴🫴 looking for free handouts.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.


Nov 15, 2025, 10:19 PM
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You canonize dead people.

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If it ain’t broke, fix it 'til it is.


Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:43 AM
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You're incredibly smart for a zombie.

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Zombies are smart due to their diet, they only eat brains***


Nov 16, 2025, 9:07 AM
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Re: Zombies are smart due to their diet, they only eat brains***

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:25 AM
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But no coot brains.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 16, 2025, 12:03 AM
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I agree,

I also think the rehash thing never works, no matter who it is. If Nick Saban went back to LSU or Bama he wouldnt be as dominant anymore in this environment. he cant horde like he did for 15 years when Bama dominated.

If Urban Meyer went back to Florida he would fail big time, again things move on......people seem to forget his ending at Florida was he was falling off anyway then he faked health problems, sat out for a year and took OHIO State Job............to be honest i'm starting to wonder if his 2nd wind at Ohio State was all just really ryan day winning him games ( he was the OC)

having said all that i wish Clemson fans could just accept there wont be any Jeff Scott, BV rehashes and you shouldnt even wish for one, magic in a bottle only hits for a short time for most good coaches and with Dabo i think its run out, i'm thankful for his time and success as a great coach but this era has passed him by he is no Saban, Kirby or Day level where he can keep it humming at super high level anymore.

we just need to accept that and not hold on to the distant past, need to get real, Kirby, Saban and Day never had some 5 year drought like Dabo is having after reaching peak level, this is the decline but Dabo is just selling clemson admin and fans snake oil cliche speeches now

"no quit in me" "I believe" "I'll be winning championships real soon", its pretty out there man

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I agree.


Nov 16, 2025, 8:36 AM
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"Too much looking backwards is bad for progress." - H.W. Beecher.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 17, 2025, 8:04 AM [ in reply to Re: Please stop canonizing BV. ]
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I agree 100% but we are paying him the national championship salary to field a 5-5 team. And don't forget his cronies and family on the payroll.

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Thankfully, there are many here who won't let any of


Nov 17, 2025, 9:17 AM
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you forget any of those things.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 17, 2025, 8:10 AM [ in reply to Re: Please stop canonizing BV. ]
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And you did so well until the end…all three had NC droughts..just as long or close to as long as Clemson. Go back and check…OSU NC in 2014 and then 10 years before another…UGA: no NC since 2022…one 2 after 1980 (like Clemson won 2 after 1983)…Ala won last one in 2020, Saban resigned in 2024 after 4 years of drought…hmmm…Not saying we don’t need changes but read…yes we r on a drought but not a 10 yr drought…is will get worse w big schools spending $35-38M on players. Will be hard for us to keep up at those levels. Want changes? Ask yourself if you have given $10k or more to the Clemson NIL collective? If you don’t like current NCAA NIL Wild West have you contacted your Senator/House of Representative for change? I can tell you wout significant changes to NIL and enforcement or wout significant increases in Clemson fans contributions to the NIL collective, we will continue to struggle NO matter the coaches.

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Venables is in an equivalent or better situation now


Nov 16, 2025, 8:48 AM
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he is not coming back

and he deserves it!

Oklahoma is one of four legendary BLUE of BLUE blood programs

he is the HC and defensive caller


that's GOATED

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:01 AM
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“goated” ???

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:21 AM
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Yes grand papa, goated. You should respect the man that is responsible for all that success we had. He’s goated here and will be at OU soon.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:58 AM
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He is a God! Show some respect. He is better than you. He is better than all of us.

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Speak for yourself


Nov 17, 2025, 7:06 AM
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Nov 17, 2025, 7:49 AM
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Blasphemy

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:23 AM
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Never rally understood the idolatry of any sports figure. It's just sports. No one is infallible. All coaches have a shelf life and if successful enough deserve a grace period for when they falter.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:25 AM
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Even Shohei Ohtani?

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Nov 17, 2025, 7:09 AM
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Pete Rose is still not in the hall, yet ohtani didn’t even get a suspension, for the same thing.

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Speaking of someone who *should* be canonized ...


Nov 17, 2025, 7:12 AM
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Yeah it's disgusting at times the fawning, gushing..


Nov 17, 2025, 7:53 AM
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sbout BV, speculating about his future...slobbering like rabid dogs the BV devotees are forever in his thrall... nauseating-

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I don't think I feel that strongly about it.


Nov 17, 2025, 9:04 AM
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But, yeah. Sort of. It's the jilted girlfriend routine and it's old and tired.

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I really don't either...

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:25 AM
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but it's very difficult to TRiGGeR anyone with mild mannered words and nonspecifics-

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Re: Without BV, we don't win those two natties. Fact.


Nov 17, 2025, 8:12 AM
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Spin it any way you want.

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I was doubting you until you said "FACT"


Nov 17, 2025, 9:08 AM
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But since you said it, it's probably a fact that without a lot of former players/personnel, we don't win those two natties. Including Dabo Swinney, hard as it is for some to admit.

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Re: I was doubting you until you said "FACT"


Nov 17, 2025, 9:18 AM
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Thanks Capt. Obvious. We would have never guessed that players were part of the equation.

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"Dabo doesn't want to use the portal. We should just stop saying that he does". ~ Judge Keller


Glad I could help.


Nov 18, 2025, 3:29 PM
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You said without BV there are no natties. Fact.

Nothing about that sentence implies you were thinking of other factors.

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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:17 AM
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Please do not try to dictate what people say on a message board. If you’re to fragile to realize he’s the better coach than Dabo, the internet isn’t for you bud.

I would be beyond thrilled to have him back here as HC. He gets it. He does what it takes to make dang sure he’s got the best chance for his team to win.

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I'm sorry that my fragility has infringed upon yours.


Nov 17, 2025, 9:18 AM
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I hope your Monday improves.

I agree that BV is a great coach, btw. My OP is not about that.

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Re: I'm sorry that my fragility has infringed upon yours.


Nov 17, 2025, 11:22 AM
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You’re a weirdo dude. There isn’t much more to say other than that.

Your OP is simple rage baiting. You’re aware people wish we had BV here at Clemson. For whatever reason that bothers you.

If Dabo can’t get it done this offseason, put me on the BV to Clemson list.

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Again, I'm sorry my fragility triggered yours.


Nov 18, 2025, 3:36 PM
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When did I say it bothers me that people wish they had BV here at Clemson. I asked people to stop canonizing him. These are not mutually exclusive ideas -- one is an acknowledgment that BV is a great coach. The other is just a backward-looking whimper. I guess you're one of the whimperers.

I hope you can find the inner-strength needed to move forward.

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Not on board with the motivation behind this post

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:50 AM
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A1ASauce® said:

He's a football coach, not a prophet. And he's not coming back.

TYTIA.


Brent Venables has been the the top assistant coach in the 125 year history of Clemson Football. He fixed a completely broken Clemson Defense that had just given up 70 points against WVA in the Orange Bowl. Clemson's record during Venables' tenure was 121-17. He's resurrected depleted Oklahoma and just ended Alabama's 17 game home winning streak which was the longest active streak in college football. Oklahoma has the #1 Defense in the nation.

Instead of raising the level of Clemson Football, you have slurred Brent Venables for no purpose.


https://clemsontigers.com/coaches/brent-venables/

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Re: Not on board with the motivation behind this post

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Nov 17, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Post says more about the OP than it does about BV.

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"Dabo doesn't want to use the portal. We should just stop saying that he does". ~ Judge Keller


That you disagree with me does not mean I've "slurred" BV.


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Re: Please stop canonizing BV.

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Nov 17, 2025, 8:34 PM
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How about Goodwin? He might of complained about players not doing there job, but I never heard him complain about the lack of talent. Allen complains that he doesn't have the talent for this defense to be successful and somehow he has sold that BS to the ones on the Roar. Maybe he'll figure it out but he has done a p!ss poor job of coaching this year. Many of us would love to see BV back because we DO HAVE and have had talent on our defense and it has been squandered since he left.

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