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The transfer portal is a step towards a very slippery slope
May 20, 2019, 10:07 AM
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Only 3-5% of full-ride scholarship football athletes will ever suit up for a regular season NFL football game. That amounts to tremendously BAD odds.
While , I am NOT opposed to those that have earned their degree getting to transfer and play at another school to use up the eligibility that the rules allow, I am bothered by all the guys that are deciding to transfer after year 1 , 2, 3 in search of better exposure, more playing time, and a better chance at the NFL. I feel this way, even though they will have to sit out a year.
It was great to read the Myles Murphy story on the reasoning for his Clemson decision. He probably has a much better than 3-5% chance on the NFL. I wonder what that percentage is for 5 star recruits? Maybe 15-25% ? I really do not know, but it is surely worse odds than a coin toss.
Nothing is going to change a kids thoughts that he can make it, and I dont want to curb that enthusiasm.
But, making it easier for these kids to blame the depth chart, the coaches, the atmosphere, and to more easily move around during that 5 years to play 4 allows them to ignore the fact that should be coming clear early in his college eligibility. The odds are against him playing in the NFL.
He should be figuring out what he is going to do the next 35 years pick a degree, focus, find a way to get the paper and coach, or quit school and start his on business. To make it easier for guys to hop around allows them to fool themselves longer, hurt relationships built over a 4-5 year career in a program at a school and learn what being part of a team really means.
My .02 cents
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When you graduate high school...
May 20, 2019, 10:15 AM
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Every move you make is a business decision.
If you are in the typical workforce and there are people in higher positions above you that seem to be entrenched for the next 15-30 years, you would not sit there are wait your turn for 2-3 decades just to be a team player.
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Re: When you graduate high school...
May 20, 2019, 10:35 AM
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Every move you make is a business decision.
If you are in the typical workforce and there are people in higher positions above you that seem to be entrenched for the next 15-30 years, you would not sit there are wait your turn for 2-3 decades just to be a team player.
There is a big difference between vying for a position in a (55x32=1732) limited universe with only 1792 slots, and vying for a promotion with ATT when there are literally hundreds of thousands of other avenues to explore.
The odds of an athlete making his money from the NFL are less than 5% period. The only way that your analogy,
"If you are in the typical workforce and there are people in higher positions above you that seem to be entrenched for the next 15-30 years, you would not sit there are wait your turn for 2-3 decades just to be a team player."
would be correct is if there were only 1732 jobs that you could pursue.
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Im just saying, Hunter Johnson and KB2 were
May 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
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Totally correct to look elsewhere.
For players like Shaq and Feaster, opportunity is still there for them. Maybe it doesn’t make total sense to make the move.
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Re: When you graduate high school...
May 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
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The odds may not be in their favor, but I can't blame them for doing what they feel is best to improve their odds. At the very least, if they don't make the NFL they can say they gave it their best shot. If they stay and don't play very much as a backup, then perhaps they spend the rest of their lives wondering if maybe it would've worked out for them had they taken a chance somewhere else.
Also, for some of these guys, perhaps they want to spend what could likely be the last year they'll ever play football on the field with a larger role even if it doesn't result in them making it to the NFL.
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It's the portal TO the slippery slope.
May 20, 2019, 10:32 AM
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It's messy right now
May 20, 2019, 11:12 AM
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But in general I like the idea that a student-athlete gets to take charge of his best interests.
I also, somewhat greedily, like the fact that it seems like our coaching staff has created a culture that won't be as greatly affected by this going forward as some others may. It will force coaches to manage their rosters by recruiting honestly, and targeting recruits that fit the system both athletically and personality wise. Sure, it will affect us as some players will no doubt go looking for greener pastures, but as of yet we haven't seen that with players after one or two seasons, but rather players that have already graduated and are moving on for a better shot at playing time do to being pushed down the depth chart by newer recruits.
It's a change, and it's messy, but ultimately these guys are going out there and putting their well-being on the line for my entertainment. I can't much complain about policies which give them greater control of choices for their future.
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The transfer portal has been around for a thousand
May 20, 2019, 11:15 AM
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Years.
Just got a new fancier name.
The only difference now is the BS lawyering to not have to sit a year.
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Re: The transfer portal has been around for a thousand
May 20, 2019, 11:24 AM
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I agree 100%. So many people are acting as if players transferring is some sort of new thing. Guys in a situation similar to Feaster and Smith have been transferring for as long as I've been following college football at least. The only real difference as you mention, is that before we'd usually see these guys go somewhere like SC State to avoid sitting out a year, where the rule now allows them to go wherever they want if they've graduated.
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The difference with the Portal is the players don't have to
May 20, 2019, 11:42 AM
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get permission from their current school before reaching out to new suitors. Previously they'd have to be granted a release before they can contact a new school, the Portal circumvents a release and allows any school to contact the player directly.
But I agree, in practice nothing has really changed. If a kid wants to transfer now it's the same as it always was. They haven't changed the hardship waiver process, there's just a cottage industry that's popped up around getting them granted now so they're in the news.
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Playing Devil's Advocate: why should CFB coaches be allowed
May 20, 2019, 11:37 AM
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to freely leave a school at any time and for any reason but not the student athletes?
Shouldn't there be consistency? A commitment is a commitment, right?
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Re: Playing Devil's Advocate: why should CFB coaches be allowed
May 20, 2019, 11:52 AM
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I do not have a hard stance on either side of the transfer stuff. As others have said, the immediate playing time (for non graduates) is the biggest change, and that seems to be based on NCAA approval that appears quite arbitrary at times.
My questions based on your Devil's Advocacy would be, isn't there a contract buy out for most coaches to be able to leave? Yes, I realize the schools usually pay and most coaches could pay it with no issue, but there is at least some form of payment due for leaving. So shouldn't the athletes have some "payment" upon leaving the school? They committed to that school the same as the coach did, and signed a contract stating such.
I do agree the big issue is coaches going wherever they can whenever they can to get to the next stop in their career. I just wanted to add to your original offering another layer to consider.
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Re: Playing Devil's Advocate: why should CFB coaches be allowed
May 20, 2019, 11:54 AM
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to freely leave a school at any time and for any reason but not the student athletes?
Shouldn't there be consistency? A commitment is a commitment, right?
I certainly am not arguing from a legal position! Legally hey should have every right to control their destiny within the confines of the agreement that they sign.
I am talking about what is best for the "masses" not the select few. I know many kids that have non-football careers and have had many a hand up in those careers primarily because of their being "part of that brotherhood" of Clemson football. That is one example. Those that are at the Citadel, for example stick together post school as well as any in the nation.
Not many of us , as a percentage of all, get the opportunity to play at a division 1 school and have the chance to be a part of that group of Clemson, Alabama, NotreDame, Citadel, etc brotherhood.
If two applicants walked into your office and they were both equally qualified for the opportunity, would you lean to the Clemson grad or Missouri grad?
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