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No bowl opt-outs
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No bowl opt-outs


Dec 6, 2022, 1:56 PM

How many other major P5 programs can claim that? Siriusly wondering if any others can say the same.

That says a lot to me about Clemson culture. Hopefully that will remain the case through the bowl game and no one will change their minds.

Clemson is far from perfect. But it's special. You could even say that... there's something special in these hills. That has a good ring to it - I need to try to do something with that.

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Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

of the bowl game, aren't they?

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:21 PM

Since none of them would play it doesn't count. We're talking about starters who expect to be high draft picks.

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:34 PM

Whether they are starters or not they are not permitted to play another game with their current school once they declaere for the portal declaring for the portal is the deciding factor.


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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

He knows that

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:49 PM

He?

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Well, that’s not what the OP said.***


Dec 6, 2022, 2:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]



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There's a difference between opting out of the bowl game


Dec 6, 2022, 3:20 PM

and deciding to opt out, or transfer, from the team altogether. A bowl opt-out is typically distinguished as someone who is choosing to forego the bowl game so they can focus on draft preparation. We have none of those. They're technically still on the team, and frequently appear on the sidelines of the bowl games, but opt not to play so as to avoid the potential for injuries that would compromise their draft status.

A transfer is someone who wants to leave the program entirely, will not be at the bowl game, and is no longer on the team.

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Re: Well, that’s not what the OP said.***


Dec 6, 2022, 3:30 PM [ in reply to Well, that’s not what the OP said.*** ]

There is a difference in saying you are going the portal prior to the portal actually opening and declaring. Once it opens and you enter (declare) you can not play in another game with your present school if you wanted to. You do not have that option. You could wait until after the bowl game but they are not going to do that and loose their best chance of finding a home in the portal. The driving force in decision making is not playing in a bowl game. It is whether to enter the portal or not.


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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:27 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

They are not OPTING out of the bowl game, They are choosing to go in the portal. Once they choose the portal they are not permitted to play in another game with their current school.

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Link to something official that says that once you say


Dec 6, 2022, 2:53 PM

portal, you can't play with the team you just declared from ?


I've seen lots on here that says the contrary - which doesn't mean squadooooosh.


Thanks.

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:31 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

That should not be that difficult to understand. This is one of those instances where you can not have your cake and eat it too.

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 2:32 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

I think we should just start calling you Stretch.

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

not the same, we have no "conscientious objectors" as opt-outs

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 3:33 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

They are no longer our players, so they can't be opting out of the Orange Bowl.

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Re: Our players in the transfer portal are opting out


Dec 6, 2022, 3:41 PM [ in reply to Our players in the transfer portal are opting out ]

Clemson culture says Hi.

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Re: No bowl opt-outs


Dec 6, 2022, 2:32 PM

I believe they still have time to opt out.

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They do. I'm trying to put fan/peer pressure on them


Dec 6, 2022, 2:38 PM

and make them feel guilty if they do. Can't hurt.

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9 guys


Dec 6, 2022, 3:40 PM

Which is a lot. Of course you’ll say they’re transferring so they don’t count to fit your narrative. So you’ll put the asterisk there.

The Clemson culture is strong whether we have people stay or transfer and opt out. The culture isn’t one or 10 people. It’s just you want it to sound like we’re so special because we have no opt outs. Okay. I’m just saying I disagree. We have 9 guys that were apart of our team and now we don’t have them.

Clemson IS SPECIAL. Just don’t sound so fan boy where what you say ha every other fan from another school rolling there eyes at you.

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Re: 9 guys


Dec 6, 2022, 4:02 PM

Is 9 a lot? In 2021, 16% of all FBS football players entered the portal.

9 is below that average.

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