Re: One mans opinion. Our program topped out in 2018. From

that point on, there has been a gradual decline. And, with Dabo's dogged insistence on isolation, it has become inbred to some extent. We need an infusion of outside blood, and certainly some new ideas on offense. If we just "stay the course" again this offseason, with no coaching changes, then, I do not see next season as having the potential to be a step up, but rather another rung DOWN the ladder of success.

In past times, when Dabo saw the need for changes, he made some hard calls to MAKE those changes. But, now, he seems to be stubbornly refusing to take his own previous advice in what is a definitely similar situation. He has blinders on, and seems determined to cut off his nose to spite his face. It seems that the joy has gone out of it for him, and this is unfortunately trickling down to the players on the team as well. You could see it, most notably, on Will Shipley's face last night. The smile was gone, and tired acceptance of failure replaced it. Clemson no longer seems to go into games EXPECTING to win. Now, it is merely HOPING to win.

Rumour has it that the Emperor Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Will Dabo Swinney do the same while the football program that he so carefully crafted moves toward the same fate? I hope not.

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Re: +1 @76er

Jan 1, 2023, 5:09 PM [ in reply to +1 @76er ]

If we are willing to accept this from being able to brag about Bama and Clemson being the top two teams in the country and had been for several years at that time a nationally top 5 elite team among all the best.

With the way the majority of T-Netter are saying right now with being so defensive with the way that Dabo replaced the coaching staff with so many inexperience coaches. It's across the defense and the offense. That can only mean that Tiger Nation never expected to actually stay at the top with the elite, and what Dabo had accomplished at that time was some kind of a fluke, and it wasn't going to last after BV took a head coaching job.

I'm not going to believe that what is happening now was supposed to happen, and I'm not going to apologize for being vocal about the way Dabo replace BV or TE. He cheapened the FB program with the two hires. He appointed two people that had no experience as coordinator, and called them coordinators, and the results against a crippled Tennessee team showed what two experience coordinators was supposed to do against two rookie self taught coordinators with no experience at all. Dabo hired two coordinators together for less than what BV or TE was making as coordinators.

Brent Venables Salary at Clemson was $2,500,000 per year. Tony Elliott's Salary was $2,112,000 at Clemson.

Brandon Streeter makes $925,000 per year for the same job TE had at Clemson.
Wes Goodwin makes $850,000 per year for the same job BV had at Clemson.

BV and TE salary combined was $4.62 million, Streeter and Goodwin salary combined was !.775 million. Dabo saved almost $3 million by hiring Streeter and Goodwin. Can anybody actually say that they believe, that Dabo believed that by hiring Streeter, and Goodwin, that all those kids that expect top coaching, that those kid were going to get that with Streeter and Goodwin. Do anybody believe that Dabo actually believed that the FB program was going to have the very same elite coaching from Sreeter and Goodwin as he got from Venables and Elliott. I say no he did not, I say that the only thing he was certain about, was he was going to save Clemson right at $3 million bucks, and he was ready to except whatever he got for the FB program. Dabo cheapened the FB program without a second thought, and nobody can convince me that he didn't know what he was doing bc, I'm just not that stupid!!!!

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