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Nuk non-TOUCHDOWN highlight
Oct 1, 2012, 5:39 PM
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does anyone know where you can find the clip of nuk's non-TD grab? debating ab that rule. thanks
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Re: Nuk non-TOUCHDOWN highlight
Oct 1, 2012, 5:43 PM
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Don't know where you can find video, but the call was correct. No debate needed.
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^^ He's right... was a designed run...
Oct 1, 2012, 5:47 PM
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Tajh audibled without letting anyone but Nuk know (like he did at ATL) and the Oline pushed downfield... i.e. Ineligible receivers
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I know it's the "rule" but
Oct 1, 2012, 5:47 PM
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why??? It's somehow part of the out-of-bounds. It's just there to mark the goal line. How long have they even had the suckers? Wonder if Ron Cherry knew that rule? so many questions....
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How is the call correct? On a Jailbreak screen the OL
Oct 1, 2012, 5:52 PM
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releases down field when the ball is thrown.
I thought as long as the ball is thrown, you can release. This was a fade, so it was obviously thrown immediately.
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Doesn't the ball have to be caught behind the line of
Oct 1, 2012, 6:26 PM
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scrimmage to block down field? I think that is the difference b/t the screen pass and the negated TD.
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My only justification is this
Oct 1, 2012, 6:27 PM
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I personally don't have much problem with the smoke audible. See it in the NFL and a lot in college, but usually is a quick throw to the outside.
What I have heard is the linemen are allowed to go down field if the ball is thrown behind the line of scrimmage (on screens), or once the ball crosses the line of scrimmage. Only thing I could think is since the ball was on the hash and was thrown so high and laterally, maybe it took so long to cross the line that they were already down field?
Grasping at straws..
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Re: Nuk non-TOUCHDOWN highlight
Oct 1, 2012, 5:50 PM
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Wrong non-TD. I'm talking ab the foot touching they pylon. I agree that according to the rule, the call was correct, but I think that the rule is incorrect. If your foot touches it and youre out of bounds, why arent you out of bounds when you touch it with the ball "diving for the pylon." I think the rule contradicts..
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Oh you're right... wrong call.. What is the actual rule?***
Oct 1, 2012, 5:51 PM
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Re: Nuk non-TOUCHDOWN highlight
Oct 1, 2012, 5:57 PM
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You are right. The rule doesn't make any sense. If you touch the pylon with the ball, it's a touchdown. If a player touches the pylon, that player is out-of-outbounds. Very stupid rule. But hey, we still scored on that drive.
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It makes perfect sense that a runner touches it for a TD
Oct 1, 2012, 6:33 PM
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the goal line is indefinite and just any part of the ball has to cross it for a score. And since the pylon is lined up with the goal line, if you touch it, then you have broken the plane of the end zone. The pylon I don't completely agree with but I guess the reasoning with the pylon is that since it sits out of bounds, then by touching it you are then labeled as being "OOB"
I wonder if the same rule applies if somehow you dive and hit the goalpost first before your feet touch in the endzone. Or if while running you knock down an official standing out of bounds..
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Re: Nuk non-TOUCHDOWN highlight
Oct 1, 2012, 5:56 PM
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They said that the rule states that bc his foot "touched" the pylon, he was ruled out of bounds. buy my problem with that rule is that if you dive for the pylon and touch it with the ball, the play is called a TD. So why if you touch the pylon are you out of bounds. Also, if the pylon gets knocked down during a play, the pylon's imaginary line is supposed to go up as if it were there. Therefore, if the pylon had theoretically fallen down during the play and his right foot (the one that knicked the pylon) was int he same position, he would not have been ruled out of bounds. Seems flawed to me.
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The pylon itself is out of bounds; however, the vertical
Oct 1, 2012, 6:24 PM
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plane of the goal line extends beyond the pylon for any player who touches it while in possession of the ball.
Normally, the plane of the goal line is from the inside of one pylon to the inside of the other, UNLESS a player in possession of the ball touches the pylon, or first touches in the end zone after crossing the goal line, at which time the plane is magically extended beyond the pylon.
I agree that this sounds goofy and illogical, but I suspect it is written this way so as to make the call more cut and dried for the officials - that is, if a player touches the pylon while in possession of the ball, it's a TD, no question, don't have to worry about whether he touched the inside or outside.
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