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FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Really? Fire Dabo Swinney? Some people were either not around for the years following Danny Ford, or either they forgot about the (20) year drought under Ken Hatfield, Tommy West, and Tommy Bowden. Not even Frank Howard has achieved what Coach Swinney has.
Here's the other aspect that must be considered while deciding whether or not to fire Coach Swinney. Who will Clemson replace him with? Do people fail to realize what an anomaly it is for a Wide Receivers Coach to become a Head Coach overnight and lead a program to (2) National Championships, (9) Conference Championships, (7) Playoff Berths, and several (10) win seasons? It has never happened in the history of college football. No other time in history has a position coach been promoted to head coach without coordinator experience and led a program to the top of the mountain.
Sure, the past 6 season have been turbulent and unsteady, but Clemson has been in the hunt every season for a shot at the playoff. While I'm unsatisfied with the way things have been in recruiting, coaching hires, and season ending results, I am still grateful to have a coach of Dabo's pedigree leading the Clemson Tigers.
The question that really looms at the front of my mind is who would replace Dabo once he's gone? The reason for some of the really amazing coaching hires at Clemson in the past 17 years is due to Dabo Swinney. If he were to be fired, what coach in their right mind would want the job? First off, they would have to coach in the shadow of Dabo's legacy and then have to look over their shoulder for fear that they would be fired if they didn't win the national title every season. Nobody of any solid pedigree would agree to those coaching conditions. We would no doubt be back into a (20) year drought.
Sometimes it's best to deal with the devil that you know instead of the devil that is unknown. If anything, Dabo has earned the right to continue to develop this program during a time of continuous change in the landscape of college sports. He has earned that right and until he proves otherwise, then I think we should calm down and be patient. Once Dabo finds a method that works, Clemson will hit their stride and nobody will be able to touch Clemson. I believe that.
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There are many saboteurs in college football who act like good ol’ Clemson fans. Some people love to show a ‘falsade’
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There are many saboteurs in college football who act like good ol’ Clemson fans. Some people love to show a ‘falsade’
Don't get me wrong here, I do my share of complaining when Clemson is losing a game or misses on a stellar recruit. I also believe that position coaching matters and some of the ones Clemson currently have do not fit the mold of what I believe Clemson wants to achieve. Plain and simple...
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Solid Orange [1384]
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Clemson could never replace Dabo...neither could anyone else...just ask Bama or FSU or any other school with a top notch natty winning coach...be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! Dabo made Clemson...it sure was not Prank Cowart!
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No, Dabo did not make Clemson.
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Clemson was here long before Dabo, and will remain long after Dabo.
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Solid Orange [1384]
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Re: No, Dabo did not make Clemson.
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You are right and Clemson was not worth crap before he came...Danny Ford had a good season and was a disaster as a manager...Frank Howard was a joke in the south...all the other nameless cats mean nothing...Dabo and winning, ACC titles, making FSU and UNC irrelevant, graduation rates, better citizens...one issue...Clemson must have the dumbest fans on earth!
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Clemson Icon [25446]
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Re: No, Dabo did not make Clemson.
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Sure they figure out Clemson will outlast Dabo, any idiot could figure that one out. After Dabo leaves how will you feel when Clemson is no longer mentioned in the CFP’s and Clemson’s football program is back in the Tommy West days. ?? Or maybe capping at 8 or 9 wins !! Is satisfying for you JK ✊✊
I supported you when you backed Brad B and the basketball program. But I am sorry to have to say this but your football post are useless Garbage. Do you understand the history of Clemson Football History ???
You can TD me all day long but I really don’t worry about my pulse as much as I want to submit post that make TigerNet the place to be 🐅🐅🐅
Quiz for JK;
What HC has won more National Championships and played for more National Championships than any other Head Coach in Clemson Football History ????? Google answer if you need help. 🤔
Don’t blow a fuse trying to figure it out. Hint his first name has 4 letters !!!!! _ _ _ _ ?????
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Top TigerNet [29051]
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I think any talk of firing Dabo is just that: talk, because I don't
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believe AD Neff would entertain the suggestion.
Why not? Because he'd have to go through the ultimate powers-that-be, meaning our BOT, and they would show him the door in about two seconds. My thinking is the overwhelming majority of Clemson supporters, fans, whatever you call them, are in Dabo's camp, period.
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Re: I think any talk of firing Dabo is just that: talk, because I don't
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I think he's earned the right to bomb 2-3 consecutive seasons before we start saying fire dabo. I wish he'd do some things differently, but what the #### do I know?
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A.I. could coach this team better than Dabo. His time has passed. Time to go with A.I and those fancy drone we got. This program is cooked and has been for 5 years now. He hasn’t been the guy for the job for a long time but sure let the “progrum” crumble cookie to nothing before you figure out he’s actually the problem.
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A.I. could coach this team better than Dabo. His time has passed. Time to go with A.I and those fancy drone we got. This program is cooked and has been for 5 years now. He hasn’t been the guy for the job for a long time but sure let the “progrum” crumble cookie to nothing before you figure out he’s actually the problem.
Whew! For a minute there, I thought someone asked a coot for their opinion on here. Then I just realized that it actually was just a coot appearing randomly on our boards to be a nuisance.
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It was my pleasure to give you thumbs down number six !***
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Valley Protector [1452]
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Re: It was my pleasure to give you thumbs down number six !***
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And I made it 7 on the Lord’s Day. Feels good, now off to church.
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Solid Orange [1392]
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I Smell Chicken
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I gifted the little lost chicken with thumbs down #11 to start off my week! Good times.....
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So, (3) Conference Championships equates cooked? Got it, thanks...
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Did AI construct your "hot take" post?
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You new posters are special Special coots. Worry about your own miserable program. You”ll lose to the likes of Vandy, Mizzou, Kentucky, LSU and Bama before losing to Clemson.
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Dynasty Maker [3243]
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Wow. Once again, a coot that can't put together three words to make a sentence. It's ok, coot. Once you actually play someone, you'll revert to your norm.
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If, no one has noticed yet, all you need to do is look at the tiger pulse of the consistent naysayers.
They are trolls mostly Coot fans.
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Game Changer [1704]
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The 20 year drought was awful, we sure would be right back into that situation.
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Check the record in that 5 year span , Coot. Check the win % .
You ever even football , bro ...or are you just some undereducated trailer ape from Winnsboro that gets hives when he sees the color orange ?
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You might need to find yourself another team to pull for. Leave Dabo alone. He’s exactly what Vlemson needs !!
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Then what you saw in the first half, down 16-0 to TROY ..and the team unmotivated and clueless should be the expectation?
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That's not on the coaches. That is 100% on the players. They rallied and took the victory with 24 unanswered points. It takes time to build a championship team. It takes development and from the way some alleged fans are sounding, they want Dabo to buy a championship team from the portal. Where is the challenge in that? If someone is buying a championship team from the portal then it's no longer coaching, it's just taking attendance and calling any random play and expecting a win every time. No thanks, we're not Brian Kelly, Shane Beamer, or Mike Norvell. Neither of the aforementioned are worthy to wash Dabo Swinney's socks in the game of football. I'll stick with Dabo because the only other Coach that can claim two national championship trophies right now is Kirby Smart. I wouldn't even want him on campus because he would cheat to win.
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We aren’t going to fire Dabo. We aren’t going to win another NC under him either. I said this 4 years ago and I’ve seen no evidence that isn’t still the case. It just isn’t in him to adapt and change to the level that is needed.
Recruiting is falling off and I don’t even want to think about what next year’s team looks like. We can still be competitive and have decent seasons but there will be no more mountain top views.
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Valley Legend [13081]
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So, buy a team from the portal? Bribe a bunch of 18-year-olds with money and hope they stick with the team after the season? Sounds like a great idea that has so far failed for every team that has tried to do that. Ohio State didn't buy a team last year, and they won it all. I'm not understanding where people are laying claims to the allusion that Dabo isn't adapting. Our players are paid well, and we get most of the recruits that we offer. Someone enlighten me on this subject please.
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Orange Blooded [2290]
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In the 5 "big" games during week 1, for were won
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by teams as many (1 game ) or more (3 games) transfer players as their opponent. FSU is winning games with transfer players.
Like you, I don't like bidding for players, but that's the landscape now.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Like it not, schools will shortly have the right and responsibility to hire athletes to represent their schools as paid professionals. There are no more barriers and to compete effectively, you will need to have the best teams money can buy if you are serious about playing for championships.
I know fans are having a hard time understanding this but it is where we are.
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Not according to the recent legislation that just passed.
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I think we can agree that the changes are evolving and coming fast and furious. You either change or die in this environment. We don’t have to like it or agree with it but it is going to be what we have to live with.
And this won’t be the last step; it is just the next step…
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Orange Blooded [2290]
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My dad's favorites quote...
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If the speed of change outside your organization is faster than the speed of change inside your organization, you are doomed...or something like that.
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Im with you on this, but Ohio State literally went into debt for last years national championship.
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You have created a false dichotomy.
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We are not limited to an all or nothing approach to the portal. It can and should be used to address weaknesses and holes on the roster.
Dabo hasn’t adapted because if he had, he would have preferred to get a running back or two out of the portal this year instead of converting a backup veteran wide receiver to be our starter.
Viewing it as inherently evil and something to be avoided is your first mistake.
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I fully understand what you're trying to say JK. However, take into consideration that not all of the portal players are good and most aren't worth what they're asking for. What needs to happen is that Clemson needs to start offering the payout to high school recruits that are top talent. Of course, it will come with contractual clauses that prevent them from jack rabbiting to another program at the end of the season. Just my two cents for what it's worth, but what if said recruit is a bust?
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Made one in your second paragraph. Chesty didn’t present a strictly binary option. He simply made a bunch of observations. You however say Dabo hasn’t adapted because if he had he would have gotten running backs. If A then B when more options exist is a false dichotomy. Perhaps I’ve given you too much credit as a troll and you really just aren’t very smart.
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YES! if we don't see IMMEDIATE improvement then YES! NOBODY, and that includes Dabo is beyond evaluation each season. Dabo has been a tremendous coach and had a lot of success, and given the University a name and reputaion to be proud of, as well as championships, but that does not give him a free pass for life. Dabo's refusal to change, his refusal to get rid of dead weight on his staff, and a decline in recruiting talent (and make no mistake there is a large decline) all ard things that are causing this program to slip back into mediocrity he found it in when he took over. I am appreciative for the decade or so of excellence, but when do we stop living on past accomplishments and move forward? We cannot move forward with the present talent level, or lack of, or the willingness to change. I hate the entire NIL thing and what it's done to college football but facts are it's different and you either adjust or get left in the dust. Just my 2 cents.
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I hope we fire him and end up with Bobby Petrino. I'd love to win 3 games a year for the next 10 years to prove my point. (SARCASM) However, some people never cease to amaze me. Who are we hiring to replace Dabo? Hopefully, it's that one active coach with more national championships. Maybe it's the one with the most conference championships right now... Oh wait, there aren't any.
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Hmmm. So being one of only 12 teams in last year’s playoffs is mediocrity now? So who would you replace the active coach with the most playoff appearances in the last 15 years with? Let’s hear some names.
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Hmmm. So being one of only 12 teams in last year’s playoffs is mediocrity now? So who would you replace the active coach with the most playoff appearances in the last 15 years with? Let’s hear some names.
My thoughts exactly! You stole my words! LOL
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It's not like Dabo is putting NIL money in his pocket. They said on one of the WESC programs that Cade is making between $2 and 3 million this year. We aren't spending more on NIL because frankly it isn't there. We can't spend what we don't have.
We have not done as well in recruiting because we haven't had the success to attract the best recruits and we don't have the money to recruit better than the teams that are recruiting better than us. Nobody else in a similar position is recruiting any better than Dabo.
Just because a lot of us support Dabo, does not mean that we are happy with the state of the program. It doesn't even mean, in my case, that I think that he will ever make us competitive on a national scale, year in, year out. There are less than a handful of programs that will do that, and all have substantially more money to throw around.
People want to talk about the last 4 years (most go back 5 but forget that we finished 3rd in the country that year) but we have been the most successful in the ACC by any metric over that timeframe. We finished 12, 14, 20 and 14 in the AP those years and better on average in the coach's poll. Dabo is not above evaluation, but at least evaluate him compared to other coaches, and not compared to his successes before that.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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I tend to reference 4 years because that is when the slide started. We've gone from #3 in 2020, to #19, #13, #20 and #14 the following 4 years. That is still very respectable but not exactly the trend you like to see, and seems to coincide with all the changes around the portal and the way players are being incentivized.
Key takeaway: what was effective 5+ years ago isn't as effective now...
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/clemson/polls.html
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I'm not sure that I agree that we "will hit our stride" and return to form, but I do think that Dabo is more likely to take us there than anybody else. I would argue that Lanning and Saban are more capable, but the likelihood of either coaching Clemson is between none and NONE. I think that arguments could be made for Kirby or Day, but I would argue that neither has been successful without far more finances than Clemson, neither is leaving their current position, and frankly I couldn't stomach either one.
Anybody else that someone could argue, would have as many or more warts than Dabo. There are a lot of people that COULD do better than Dabo, but any of those people COULD end up doing a whole lot worse. At least Dabo has done it before. That is more than we can say for any name that somebody could realistically throw out there.
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I'm not sure that I agree that we "will hit our stride" and return to form, but I do think that Dabo is more likely to take us there than anybody else. I would argue that Lanning and Saban are more capable, but the likelihood of either coaching Clemson is between none and NONE. I think that arguments could be made for Kirby or Day, but I would argue that neither has been successful without far more finances than Clemson, neither is leaving their current position, and frankly I couldn't stomach either one.
Anybody else that someone could argue, would have as many or more warts than Dabo. There are a lot of people that COULD do better than Dabo, but any of those people COULD end up doing a whole lot worse. At least Dabo has done it before. That is more than we can say for any name that somebody could realistically throw out there.
Saban is retired and never returning. Lanning is a great coach but has underperformed for years at Oregon. They manage to recruit top 3 classes each season and have #### all to show for it. They have all of that NIKE money for nothing.
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And the reason Saban retired is because he knew this was coming and wanted no part of it.
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I understand completely but those are the only 4 coaches that I think that you could even make an argument for, just based on the last 4 years. I wouldn't think of changing from Dabo. My point is that even if you ignore 2020 and before, Dabo has done better than all but a handful of coaches. And that is only if you throw out everything before 2020. Any name that I have heard falls short even if we ignore everything but the last 4 years. They have been disappointing for us, but have still been better than nearly every other program over that stretch.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM
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I'm still for keeping Dabo because I do think he is the best available option for us. I do hope he begins to embrace change a little more proactively and adapts to our new reality. If not, and the results continue the trend they are on, I think we will have to revisit this again.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 10:27 AM
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Lanning has underperformed at Oregon? 37-6 and a Big 10 Championship sounds pretty good to me.
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Oculus Spirit [40930]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Interested in how Dan Lanning would be preferred over Dabo Swinney.
I get the Saban.
Lanning however has done next to nothing as far as on an actual championship level ...As a head coach...to my knowledge.
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All-In [10867]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Not reading all that but yet YES, fire Dabo Swinney....whatever he had years ago on those championship runs is long gone. The program is completely broken
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Valley Legend [13081]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
Sep 7, 2025, 8:07 AM
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Not reading all that but yet YES, fire Dabo Swinney....whatever he had years ago on those championship runs is long gone. The program is completely broken
Completely agree, only (3) Conference Championships and 2 Playoff appearances in 5 years is broken completely.... I wish we could do it like Lane Kiffin, Brian Kelly, Ryan Day, Mike Norvell, and Dan Lanning and win it all every year. Oh wait, they don't win it all every year even though they buy an entire team from the portal and have access to more money?
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Offensive Star [335]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 8:03 AM
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amen and amen!
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Head Coach [931]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 8:08 AM
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Nobody realizes the challenges that we have more than Dabo. The coaching staff knows they need to do a lot better job and time is running out- to say the least. Offensively the problems are obvious to a halfway knowledgeable fan. Defense, however, may not be. Run defense is not what you expect from an highly touted line. Sacks are a rarity. We have to get more aggressive- isn't that what defense should be? Ga. Tech looms. Let's go!
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Solid Orange [1384]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 9:13 AM
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The job of any coach is to get the most out of any individual and then turn that group of individuals into a great team...few have done that as well as Dabo...considering the level of talent he has started with...can you imagine what Dabo would have done with Sabans talent pool!
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Rival Killer [2722]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 7, 2025, 8:39 AM
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You've been ultra-trolled. These are a lunatic fringe that always lurk. Why waste your time with sermonizing them.
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Orange Elite [5588]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 7:52 AM
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Really really really wish that you never mention the names Hatfield and West again. What a dark time in Clemson history.
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Letterman [158]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 9:56 AM
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No. Lets not fire Dabo.
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If you just jumped on Clemson's bandwagon in the last decade...
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Sep 8, 2025, 10:02 AM
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you'd probably be upset that all the money you'd spent at Walmart on gear seems wasted.
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Solid Orange [1392]
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This is completely insane
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Sep 8, 2025, 10:21 AM
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Anyone who wants to part ways with Dabo is a complete moron and definitely not a real Clemson fan prior to his tenure there. If you are rich and on the bandwagon from 2016 and 2018, taking up all the good tickets in The Valley when times are good and bitching and selling your great tickets to the opposing team's fans when times are a little tougher, YOU ARE NOT A CLEMSON FAN, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, WE DON'T WANT YOU, pack your crap and hit the road.
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Rival Killer [2609]
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Re: This is completely insane
Sep 8, 2025, 10:41 AM
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For what it's worth, here's my dos pesos. After 2 weeks I see something peculiar. An anomaly i thought I would never see. The little guys are getting better. In the landscape that is this "new era", smaller schools have improved. I can only speculate as to why this is. Perhaps these schools have spent their wad to sn atch some really talented players from bigger schools. Yeah I put wad and sn atch in the same sentence, but it may very well be that some players have opted out of the super competitive rat race to go elsewhere. The spotlight can be much bigger at a small school where their talents can be showcased while playing similar small school teams. Yeah, the spotlight for the school may be as tiny as the school itself, but the individual play(s) can still land them on the top ten plays of the day. Honestly, it's more likely for their hard work to be recognized by NFL scouts if they aren't surrounded by 4 and 5 star competition. This is all speculation, but not out of the realm of possibilities. Ask Randy Moss and Air Mcnair among others. Just Saying!!! And as always...GO PAWS!!!
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 11:07 AM
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I like to think the "Dabo is done" crowd are new to the Clemson game , as it were.
If they're new and like haven't got the seasoning , I can be relatively patient when they say the stupid things that they say about Dabo.
If they're not new , then I say they are stupid or I Coot tag them . Either way , the fun of being a Clemson fan j8st got somewhat more treacherous. There are stupid sharks in the waters of Hartwell.
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I totally agree that Dabo has earned our respect
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Sep 8, 2025, 11:20 AM
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and has earned a very, very long leash.
I fully support Dabo. He made Clemson relevant in college football after a very long draught. He has taken Clemson football way beyond the glory days of Danny Ford. Even these less than stellar years have been pretty good. Lots of people were not happy with last season, but we were ACC champions and made the playoffs. That's a HUGELY successful year. And yet fans were not satisfied.
Give Dabo time. He will fix things. I have faith in Dabo. Winning is hard! FACT.
PS: I was a loyal Clemson fan (and student) during a 17-25-2 four year stretch during the mid-1970s. We celebrated EVERY SINGLE victory, especially the one and only winning season. Let's not forget how far Dabo has taken Clemson. Those who expect 0 and 1 loss seasons every year are delusional and spoiled. Enjoy Clemson football and celebrate the wins. Winning is hard!
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Too much bourbon. I regret my statement Saturday nite, Dabo’s likely the best there’s ever going to be or at least for a very long time @ Clemson.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 11:39 AM
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Dabo doesn’t stack up against good teams anymore. We will, of course, have another season with a lot of wins because we play in the softest league. We will lose to SC. Dabo’s success came from amazing recruiting, but that isn’t an edge anymore when the edge is now found in transfer portal. It doesn’t matter what he previously accomplished, it’s about how he functions in the current landscape.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 11:58 AM
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As a percentage, how many players in the portal pottie are great players and good people? Both are extremely important to the Clemson brand and culture.
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Letterman [175]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 2:26 PM
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All of this is true. Fabulous job. But he does need to get something big done this year.
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 2:41 PM
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Your first paragraph is enough for me because I remember it all and don't want to ever see it again
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 3:28 PM
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IMO it would be a huge mistake to fire Dabo Swinney but, Dabo really needs to evaluate his entire coaching staff. Dabo IMO needs to replace some coaches with coaches that winning championships is what they thrive for everyday when they come to work bc championships are first won at practice. If a team will practice like they are champions, they can become champions!!!
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Freshman [0]
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Re: FIRE DABO SWINNEY!
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Sep 8, 2025, 4:25 PM
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How about the coaches from Troy they out coach clemson every time they play. Imagine if Troy had all the talent dabo has. Got out coached by Furman couple years back. Think dabo needs to put best players on the field.
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