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All-TigerNet [11979]
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Good on ya, mate.
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:15 AM
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GOP Sen. Rand Paul,on Friday launched a website titled "Never Nikki" to urge libertarians not to vote for former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley in his party's 2024 presidential nomination process.
"Based on her record and campaign, I don’t see how any thoughtful or informed libertarian or conservative should vote for @NikkiHaley. If you agree, let your voice be heard," Paul, of Kentucky, wrote on the social media platform, X.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/rand-paul-launches-never-nikki-website-says-he-doesnt-have-first-choice?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Doxxin' Nikki is on every side of several issues. I think we've seen enough of that.
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All-In [42294]
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Maybe he's right with this statement
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:18 AM
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"Based on her record and campaign, I don’t see how any thoughtful or informed libertarian or conservative should vote for [Nikki]."
But that same criteria applies 10 times as much to Trump.
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All-TigerNet [11979]
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Yeah. Too much
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:24 AM
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peace and prosperity with that guy.
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All-In [31938]
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I am 100% convinced that without a Trump presidency...
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:53 AM
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Russia is not in Ukraine right now.
What happens the year after a POTUS leaves offices speaks just as load as what happens while he's in office...maybe more so.
To think that Trump set us up for peace is laughable in regards to Russia and China. I'll give him Iran...he was right to pull out of the nuclear deal.
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All-In [42294]
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And...
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Trump helped add to the inflation (Biden made it worse) and the Afghanistan debacle (Biden made it worse). There was no peace with Trump. Prosperity is questionable, too, at this point.
He further divided our nation possibly beyond repair but clowns like Murph like that because he subscribes to "One America. Good. Other America. Bad."
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All-TigerNet [11979]
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Never doubt
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:25 AM
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that I'm laughing at you and your tiny intellect.
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All-In [42294]
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Well, for starters, you've never possessed an ounce of critical thought
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Which is why you think Trump never did those things. Your information sources boil down to Twitter, Breitbart, TikTok, and probably some StormFront type stuff that you know not to link here. Asking you to sit down and actually read a well-researched article over three paragraphs would be like asking a Bulldog fan to stop throwing beer bottles at tailgates.
You're also a gullible authoritarian who is easily duped by your party's bull ####. Let's go back to the Iraq war, which you suckled on so hard you were practically ######## out little toy Apache helicopters. You were fooled into supporting that, went all in, and now pretend you never backed it. You were all-in on the Patriot Act, but now pretend you don't like such government overreach.
Trump's ineptitude as a president has been long proven, and people with poor thinking skills and a lack of historical knowledge actually believe he was a good president. Even dumber are the ones who think he's a conservative Christian and don't realize he's duped them all along.
Weak-minded men need a pseudo strong man to tell them what to do. Someone to fill the void of their lack of machismo. They turn to people like Trump, pro wrestlers, Pat McAfee, John Wayne, Joe Rogan, etc.--people with little substance but who they somehow see as being the men they wish they were.
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All-TigerNet [11979]
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LOL at the Chihuahua.
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:43 AM
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Enjoy your fantasy world, little boy.
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Re: LOL at the Chihuahua.
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:19 AM
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He's 100% correct, and you have nothing substantial to counter with. This is embarrassing for you.
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All-TigerNet [11979]
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Welcome newbie.
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Jan 12, 2024, 2:34 PM
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Whose scok is this?
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Re: Welcome newbie.
Jan 16, 2024, 12:33 PM
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I'm always accused of this nonsense. Check the date, friend, I've been here 14 years.
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I don't understand the sentiment at all.
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:09 AM
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A) They were in Ukraine before Trump got there.
B) The lifting of the Nord Stream 2 sanctions by Biden literally gave Russia the financing they needed to make the current invasion a reality. That happened shortly after Biden was in office, so of course the turnaround was short for their invasion.
Looking at the facts as we know them and attributing the current Ukraine invasion to Trump just seems like high level confirmation bias.
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To point one
Jan 12, 2024, 10:23 AM
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I put most of the blame on Obama with how he handled Crimea. He showed the world a complete lack of spine during that incident. Trump, however, compounded the problem with lip service to Putin and weakening our and our allies stances against him and Russia.
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I should have been more clear...
Jan 12, 2024, 10:26 AM
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on Russia/Ukraine....I don't think Russia would have launched the full-scale invasion in 2022. I think they would still be only in Crimea (officially). I think Trump's anti-NATO bent greatly emboldened Putin.
On point B...I guess I need to do some reading. I thought the NS2 pipeline never went in service and the operating company went bankrupt. I remember the Biden admin dropping sanctions in 2021 as a move to get back on better terms with Germany and then they brought the sanctions back in 2022 after Russia started to prep for invasion (or maybe it was after the invasion started, don't remember exactly). Either way, if I'm right that NS2 isn't operational yet, how did the lifting of sanctions in 2021 provide financing to Russia?
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Lot o points [156061]
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Sorry, I phrased it really poorly.
Jan 12, 2024, 11:14 AM
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Not so much direct financing (which makes my choice of “literally” ironically bad), but the confidence Russia and Putin needed to believe that the capstone had been placed on Russia’s control of energy resources for much of Europe, and thus guarantees of a forward looking consistent revenue stream.
Look at this chart. They fully believed this 2022 spike was how things would continue trending moving forward.
Some good info here
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/gas-pipeline-nord-stream-2-links-germany-russia-splits-europe
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All-In [31938]
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Maybe...but then one could ask why they're still there...
Jan 12, 2024, 3:40 PM
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or better yet...HOW they're still there if this funding, that never came, gave them the confidence to invade.
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Lot o points [156061]
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Thats easy. Putin's ego
Jan 12, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Same reason Hitler doomed Germany’s chances by failing to retreat from Stalingrad. Putin knows how far his stock will fall amongst Russians if he pulls back now, and he’s in for a penny, in for a pound at this point.
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Fallacious narrative re Trumps NATO failure re Ukraine
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Jan 21, 2024, 9:51 PM
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Trump’s publicly stated ’anti-NATO bent’ was a negotiation tactic, with the objective being to get the EU NATO countries to pay up for their full share of NATO costs.
As we all know, NATO’s EU members had relied on the U.S. taxpayer to fund what essentially equates to the protection of the European NATO countries.
By doing engaging in real world, adult negotiations … as opposed to the wordy but impotent ‘negotiations’ which is de regueur of politicians and political appointees, Trump put the onus on the EU NATO countries about whether or not THEY were serious about their OWN protection.
The EU NATO countries, believing that Trump would fold if they pushed back, chose to ridicule Trump instead of paying up. Trump didn’t fold; he correctly refused to publicly profess something along the lines of ‘I’ll pay up for you, as had Clinton, GWB, and Obama, but please please please don’t make fun of me.’ The ball was in the court of EU NATO members, and they fumbled it.
Thus, it was the EU NATO members, all by themselves, that signaled to Putin that the EU was committed to a flaccid defense. As Herman Goering had infamously said, ‘Do you want butter (social spending) or guns (‘defense’ spending)? Guns make us strong; butter only makes us fat.’
The EU NATO members chose butter.
Enter Putin.
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Re: I am 100% convinced that without a Trump presidency...
Jan 12, 2024, 10:38 AM
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maybe correct on Russia(they had to protect their people) not being in Ukraine, but when you understand that Ukraine is the center of global human and child sex trafficking and run by CIA/Mossad puppet Zalensky for the New World Order zionists then your opinion changes.
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Heh, you think Russia was "protecting their people"...
Jan 12, 2024, 10:42 AM
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And justified in their invasion?
Man, this is why our country is ###### if people like y'all ever take over.
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Re: I am 100% convinced that without a Trump presidency...
Jan 21, 2024, 9:27 PM
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Proof that some people simply hate Trump (for reasons that even they do not know) that they will blame Trump for problems that he had set on the path to solve.
Why not just keep it simple and admit that you don’t like Trump … you don’t know why you feel that way … and no amount of reason or facts will ever change your mind?
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Re: Good on ya, mate.
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:05 AM
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took only one response to make the thread about trump
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It is about Trump, ya dolt
Jan 12, 2024, 10:24 AM
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EDIT: Rand Paul is effectively saying choose Trump over Nikki.
Message was edited by: Catahoula®
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Re: It is about Trump, ya dolt
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:26 AM
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you mean rand paul?
paul ryan is the one that would not fund the wall
but they all look alike to you correct lol
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All-In [42294]
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Yep, I made a mistake and will admit it
Jan 12, 2024, 10:34 AM
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Unlike the thousands of factually incorrect bull #### you spout off in here.
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Re: Yep, I made a mistake and will admit it
Jan 21, 2024, 9:55 PM
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Man, you almost did it.
Shoulda stopped at “Yep, I made a mistake and will admit it.” Hard stop.
Instead, you chose to rationalize your mistake, and thus erased the (admirable) gesture of owning up to it and then just stopping.
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All-In [42294]
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Thread's been dead for over a week
Jan 22, 2024, 7:51 AM
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Stay on the current ones. And you run away like a little b!tch when someone points out your factual errors. Remember how you won't respond when someone does that?
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