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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 11:42 AM
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So this last week has sparked another movement to move and try to re-write our Southern History and Southern Heritage. I am a proud Southerner who finds it very disturbing that the left is always trying to use race as a way to get what they want and promote their agenda. Was slavery a horrible thing that happened? Yes. Do I agree with the removal of statues, renaming parks, buildings and etc.? Heck no. No matter what you can't change history. If that's the case, let's do away with African American History, Native American History and etc.
Removing this things will change nothing. As my president stated, who will be next? I agree with him, when will it stop? When they left has removed everything and gotten their way? If that's the case, let's remove the tomb of the unknown soldiers, I'm sure that's offensive to the Vietnamese that live in this country. Let's remove our WWII monuments, I'm sure that's offensive to Japanese and German Americans that live here. It seems in today's time it is only one side and one race that stirs up the trouble and can't get out of the past. Just my two cents on this Friday.
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:02 PM
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I agree 100%!!!
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110%er [7719]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:05 PM
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Maybe you should put the political talk in the politics forum...
Just a thought.
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Ed Zachary. This is the
Aug 18, 2017, 12:08 PM
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chiropractic discussion bored.
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TigerNet HOFer [125867]
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Re: Ed Zachary. This is the
Aug 18, 2017, 12:16 PM
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this is why I proudly display my national association of chiropractors flag inside the house, I dont want real doctors to get offended.
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All-Pro [667]
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This isn't the prostate board?
Aug 18, 2017, 12:26 PM
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looks like a bunch of ######## here.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Athletic Dir [1161]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:08 PM
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agree!!!... i was just discussing this earlier today at work... even if you remove every statue, flag, monument, etc... what does that change?.. nothing!
racism is not a material thing that is hanging on a pole, or erected on a base... it's a mindset, and as long as the left uses it to further their agenda.. it'll never get better, ... only worse.
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Orange Elite [5222]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:14 PM
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But it may change the future.
It's jaw dropping how some of you can't see your backwardsness.....
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110%er [7719]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:23 PM
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"It's jaw dropping how some of you can't see your backwardsness..... "
Aren't you the guy who doesn't believe in evolution?
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Orange Elite [5222]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 1:04 PM
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I tend to side with Dabo.....
God created us all equal and we shouldnt honor those who thought otherwise.
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110%er [7719]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 1:26 PM
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Good job not answering the question.
Takes a real backwards ### to not believe in evolution.
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Heisman Winner [87642]
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LOL
Aug 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
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It's jaw-dropping how willingly blind people are to the funded efforts by George Soros and other America-hating forces, along with their willing accomplices in the media, to destroy the world's Last Great Hope.
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Orange Elite [5145]
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:14 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. I am just sick and tired of it. Thing is, the left finally was able to elect a black and I use that term loosely because we all know he was mixed....however, look at the racial divide that happened under his 8 years of being the president. He did everything in his power to ruin this country from the inside and out. Obama is sitting back laughing now. This issues sure weren't a problem when Bush was in or Clinton before him.... just funny how all of a sudden Obama is in and this is all brought to light.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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"I see your true colors shining through..."
Aug 18, 2017, 12:18 PM
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It's good to get this kind of thinking out in the open. Too many have for too long ignored it and pretended it was a thing of the past.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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say what you want....***
Aug 18, 2017, 12:20 PM
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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it's not my true colors...
Aug 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
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I am just tired of seeing one side always get what they want when they want it. They want to preach about their rights being trampled on but in the process don't care about who's rights they step on. Next they will say the American Flag is racist and want to make it in African colors.... watch what I tell you.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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Do you wish you were black so you could reap all of the
Aug 18, 2017, 12:36 PM
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disproportionate rewards that have accrued to people of color in this country?
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Clemson Icon [26069]
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"seeing one side always get what they want"
Aug 18, 2017, 1:16 PM
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Interesting. Tell us more about this concept and how you are oblivious to it's current usage. Which side has this been true for the past 100 years?
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Orange Elite [5222]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:11 PM
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I'm southern too but we lost. Why is there a trace of the confederacy left? I don't see British flags waving on the back of jacked up pickup trucks and above double wides....
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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because that is a different war. The Civil War
Aug 18, 2017, 12:16 PM
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Was a war fought against our own, brothers against brothers, families against families. Both sides have the right to honor the ones who fought.
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Orange Elite [5222]
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Re: because that is a different war. The Civil War
Aug 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
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Why would you honor someone for fighting to keep a particular race in slavery?
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110%er [7719]
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Re: because that is a different war. The Civil War
Aug 18, 2017, 12:25 PM
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That wasnt the only reason for the war.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Slavery was only a part of the war. Do some research and
Aug 18, 2017, 12:28 PM
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Comeback to me. Also blacks weren't the only ones enslaved. There were plenty of Irish slaves, American Indian slaves, oh and even black slave owners....
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Orange Elite [5222]
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Re: Slavery was only a part of the war. Do some research and
Aug 18, 2017, 1:19 PM
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So your answer is "there were more reasons than just that"?
Lol.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:12 PM
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I'm not against removal based on "what might come next", I'm against what's being removed now. While I understand there are some folks that choose to see nothing other than a negative viewpoint with regard to those memorials, there are also others that see them as nothing but honorable. Does their view not count? There are a number of things the I don't particularly like in our country, but the way we have unity is to either accept those things, or just look the other way. Is it right for me to force a narrow viewpoint that I may have on others? No. Neither is it right for such a viewpoint to be forced upon me.
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Clemson Icon [27792]
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I quit reading
Aug 18, 2017, 12:13 PM
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After my president!
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Good, guess you voted for KILLARY then....***
Aug 18, 2017, 12:17 PM
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Clemson Icon [27792]
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Re: Good, guess you voted for KILLARY then....***
Aug 18, 2017, 12:20 PM
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Right on. Peace and prosperity. There is nothing like it.
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Heisman Winner [87642]
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My favorite part of the Obama years was the racial harmony.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:28 PM
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And how he got a Nobel Peace Prize for closing Guantanamo and ending all wars.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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It is true that having our first African American president
Aug 18, 2017, 12:43 PM
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pissed a lot of crackers off.
Predictably.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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So it's ok for you to use a racist term? Predictable from a
Aug 18, 2017, 12:55 PM
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Left winger like you.
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Game Changer [1848]
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Do you need him to produce his birth certificate first to
Aug 18, 2017, 1:16 PM
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make sure he was not born in Africa?
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Game Changer [1848]
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No, he wasn't raised by a white family in Hawaii
Aug 18, 2017, 1:18 PM
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with a white mother. I went to high school with him.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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So, Obama lived with his mother and grand parents in Hawaii
Aug 18, 2017, 1:30 PM
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and that's why the majority of Trump supporters don't believe he was born in this country?
Good stuff.
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Game Changer [1848]
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Not what I'm saying
Aug 18, 2017, 1:51 PM
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Tim would be first Black President. Obama was in fact African - American as his father was African and his mother was American
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110%er [7719]
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All-American [558]
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I can't remove everything in the world that is
Aug 18, 2017, 12:14 PM
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offensive to me because it would be offensive to somebody or violate some sort of singular "right" of someone so, why should others have the right to remove everything that is offensive to them? Some people just need to get a life and do something productive.
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Re: I can't remove everything in the world that is
Aug 18, 2017, 12:19 PM
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there has to be limits, you cant just erect statues of Nazi Generals in a park devoted to survivors of the holocaust.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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But if they decided to do it, who's to say they can't???***
Aug 18, 2017, 12:21 PM
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Re: But if they decided to do it, who's to say they can't???***
Aug 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
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in a public park, my guess would be the city council.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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TigerNet HOFer [125867]
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Re: Those Nazis died fighting for something they believed in.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:27 PM
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maybe I should clarify when I meant to say public park. I am against removing statues and monuments dedicated to the civil war. But when you have a park named after and celebrating the emancipation of slaves, then 60 years later someone decides to erect a statue of Robert E lee in the same park, I do not think people have the right to question the city council when they vote to take it down another 70 years down the road.
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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Re: Those Nazis died fighting for something they believed in.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:30 PM
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That I can agree with.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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I was agreeing with you that there are limits.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:33 PM
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I just may disagree on where those limits are placed. I don't believe in public Nazi memorials, flags, "honor" or "pride."
If we are going to keep these monuments up, they should at least use words like "traitor, treason, defender of slavery."
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TigerNet HOFer [125867]
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Re: I was agreeing with you that there are limits.
Aug 18, 2017, 7:51 PM
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Owning slaves was normal at the time, people now need to understand that and not rush to demonize. It has taken us centuries to become a more just species, none of it happened over night. Hopefully burying our past is not in our future.
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 12:20 PM
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Minorities will always use race as the reason they don't succeed. Tyrone didn't get a job cause he is black, not b/c he didn't graduate high school and has felony charges. Jose didn't get a job cause he is Mexican, not b/c he is an illegal....oh excuse me "undocumented". lmao Political correctness is ruining this country. If there wasn't racism then who would minorities blame their problems on? You think Al Sharpton gives a darn about these young black kids? Hell when they get shot he gets money....
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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Spoken like a God fearing evangelical Trump supporter.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:28 PM
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Let it flow.
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All-American [558]
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The unspoken (or ignored) part of the debate
Aug 18, 2017, 12:40 PM
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"The vast majority of those who were enslaved and transported to the New World were Africans from the central and western parts of Africa who had been sold by other West Africans to Western European slave traders (with a small minority being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids), who brought them to the Americas."
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Paw Warrior [4840]
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hit nail on the head. They should boycott Africa and
Aug 18, 2017, 12:57 PM
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Stop blaming whitey for all their problems with slavery!
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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LOL! Keep posting little buddy.
Aug 18, 2017, 12:58 PM
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You are showing a side that many on the right want to pretend doesn't exist.
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Clemson Icon [26069]
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Books still exist. How is this rewriting history?
Aug 18, 2017, 1:13 PM
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You can read all about the confederacy in a library or on wiki. Do you need the participation trophy monuments on display to help remember?
Side note, the winners do tend to write the history books.
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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You must not have read Mary Simm's Oliphant's "The History
Aug 18, 2017, 1:19 PM
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of South Carolina" in the 8th grade like we did in Barnwell. Talk about a white washing. 
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Game Changer [1848]
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another racist term
Aug 18, 2017, 1:19 PM
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Clemson Icon [26069]
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Clemson Icon [26065]
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Unfortunately I had to read the whole darn book in 8th grade
Aug 18, 2017, 1:46 PM
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way back in 1974.
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Game Changer [1848]
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Most of these "monuments"
Aug 18, 2017, 1:15 PM
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were put up in defiance of Jim Crow, segregation, and civil rights. They have nothing to do with honoring. The generic ones that are truly memorials sjould be left alone.
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It really is a stupid thing. It's a freaking statue.
Aug 18, 2017, 1:53 PM
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We should be adding more.
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Re: Just some Friday Political Talk....
Aug 18, 2017, 7:24 PM
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Removing a statue doesn't 'rewrite' anything. It merely removes an object of misplaced veneration of a particular part of history.
The history stays the same. If it were erasing history books, then you might have a point.
If I junk my old Chevy, it doesn't 'rewrite' the history of Chevrolet.
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