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I'm tired of reading about how our OL recruiting isn't good

Dec 18, 2013, 9:18 AM

enough. Do people not realize that Rivals and Scout and all of the other services don't give out that many 4 and 5 rankings to offensive lineman? The ratings are slanted towards the skill players because that's what people like to see their team get...a talented QB or RB or WR.

For example, last year, Scout only gave out 29 four or five star ratings to Offensive Tackles coming out of high school, 14 four or five star ratings to Guards, and 2 four or five ratings for Centers. With the offensive line accounting for five starting positions, 45 total four or five star players means most teams aren't going to have starting lineups full of four and five star offensive lineman.

For comparison, here's a ratio of the # of four or five star players in the 2013 Scout HS class to the # of starting positions they account for per team.

QB: 35:1
RB: 41:1
FB: 2:1
WR: 44:2 (22:1)
TE: 14:1
OT: 29:1 (14.5:1)
OG: 14:2 (7:1)
C: 2:1
DT: 32:2 (16:1)
DE: 34:2 (17:1)
OLB: 26:2 (13:1)
MLB: 14:1
S: 30:2 (15:1)
CB: 29:2 (14.5:1)
K: 0:1
P: 0:1

As you can see, the star rankings are skewed towards the skill positions. QB, RB, and WR have the most four and five star players per starting position, while K, P, C and OG have the least. A player like Jay Guillermo, who was rated by Scout as the #6 Center in his class, would likely have been a 4-star prospect if he played nearly any other position. Last year we also signed the #4 OG in Tyrone Crowder. Thomas, Battle, and MacLain (although he switched positions from TE) were all 4-star coming out of HS as well, while Region, Destefano, and Reader (a DT now) were rated by Scout as top-20 at their OL positions.

Our OL recruiting is fine, and it's probably about as good as it can get. We're at the top for a number of the elite OL prospects in next year's class, so I don't understand the endless talk about us not caring about OL recruiting.

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football players first with base tools to play multiple positions. you can't get enough of those kids. not sure what your story on jumbo athletes is, but that's the one i've always heard and been around.

we play a spread offense, moving big bodies in from te to ot happens a lot & it's not symptomatic of clemson alone.

you don't like spread offenses or hunhs fine, but don't hate on the program because you want a bama offensive line that runs 60 plays a game when we're looking to run 90-100. it's not remotely the same.

and yes, if cannon smith projects as an ot in this system, it is a #### good thing.

if you want to ##### about spreads, i'll join in with you, but i'm not going to ##### because the coaches are doing a good job putting the pieces together to fit the systems they play.

I'm tired of reading about how our OL recruiting isn't good

Two Things

FSU (the elite team this year)

Apparently Creole can't respond to facts.***

1 senior 4 juniors and taking more than

You ability to count is questionable

Only one senior was a starter the rest were junior***

So?

the bowl they're playing in vs us is the

In terms of recruiting

You are 100% wrong about that.***

Really we start Thomas and Battle

What was Shatley? And Battle was a 2 star if I remember

Shatley was 3* DT

They also start a 3* former D-Tackle in Tre Jackson

Why must we continue converting TE and DT to fill

Because they make good OT and guards

How many make the league that come from our program?***

How many are on rosters this season?

Barry Richardson also played for the Lions this year...

That's a mighty small # which ones are starting?***

Would you agree that Tommy Bowden and Dabo Swinney

We also had JK Jay in that class...

Dabo's fault for injuring his back

Making the switch the third or fourth year is not a good

Interesting

it's a great indication of recruiting players that can help

Eric McClain and Tyler Shatley weren't

Once again

??? they are/were both big bodied with room to grow,

A lot of information in that post...

does your gf like football?

Look if the middle school football coach decides your a DT

haha, werd.***

Coot math***

Nice research and argument. Witches gonna' witch.... +1.***

Should have noted that Norton was also top-20 at his positio

Re: Should have noted that Norton was also top-20 at his positio

I think it is fair to say that Clemson recruited Norton....

that's really the rx for offensive lineman & most players.

And as much as I'm sad to see him go

It's no secret the staff wanted Battle to take over the

Re: I'm tired of reading about how our OL recruiting isn't good

It only makes sense to change the plan if we can replace

Re: It only makes sense to change the plan if we can replace

We will have 16 on scholarship next year...

O-Line is a 5 year commitment of a a scholarship

Hyatt is a 2015 I believe***

Which is why I said next seasons

So how does he help? We already know it

Which is why Thomas has started 4 years

Thomas is a statistical anomaly for Clemson

You are just not good with facts.

Crowder is a redshirt, Giff was a redshirt

I'm sorry, they are still freshmen/sophomores

Tyrone Crowder.....

Facts and statistics generally confuse the

Re: I'm tired of reading about how our OL recruiting isn't good

This guy is the best troll I've seen in a while

Re: I'm tired of reading about how our OL recruiting isn't good

Tried the post in google translate

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