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Game Changer [1721]
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Dabo on the roar
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Dabo just said on the roar this team is way better than the 2021 team. He said he was scared the offense in 2021 "wouldn't get a first down." He is now discussing the turnover issues, and says they have been in a position to win every game.
Dabo has also said multiple times the team is very good and talented, just cannot stop making the same mistakes.
He is emphasizing the journey this team has been on, and he says there time will come eventually. One thing I can say is I am very happy Dabo Swinney is the head coach at Clemson. I know this season has been rough, but I truly believe the future of Clemson football is going to be just fine. He will make the necessary adjustments I believe.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:44 PM
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I'm counting on it.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 3:03 PM
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I am as frustrated as any Clemson fan with how this season has gone. However, take it from a guy that has been a fan a long time it could be worse. I was a student during the Hatfield/West days and it was worse.
Things are NEVER as bad as they seem or as great as they seem. The truth lies somewhere in between.
Is change coming after this season? Dabo has not called me to discuss this, but I would say that there has to be some assistant coaching changes after the season. O-line, receivers, RBs - I would not be surprised if 1 or all of these guys get replaced. Just changing the O-line coach and bringing in an experienced coach improves this offense A LOT.
The defense is not immune to criticism as this group has failed the team on several occasions this season. Too much talent to get repeatedly punched in the mouth Saturday and not respond. This defense reflects the meek persona of its coordinator. You do not replace a legend with an analyst and expect the same results. Not at all sure we have the best D-line coaches available. Our D-lines used to take games over and dominate. Current D-line talent equal to some of our best but they are getting pushed around all over the field when it matters most.
The core group of talent is in place for this to be a really good team. The much needed upgrade to the receiver position is coming if Dabo can work his magic and keep the recruiting class together.
Dabo needs to utilize the portal and bring in some help. We are going to need help along the D-line and we could always use some experience along the O-line. How about a kicker? Weitz is done after this season.
Dabo knows what it takes to win. He literally built the Clemson program from nothing. If Dabo uses all the options available to him he can right this ship quickly.
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 3:06 PM
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You make some really good points. I think some people don't realize how hard it is to be a playoff contender every single year. There are going to be highs and lows in every program, but I really do believe things will trend in the right direction again soon.
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Clemson Conqueror [11544]
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+1. The transition from a legend (and master motivator) to an
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Oct 23, 2023, 4:01 PM
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analyst is a good comment.
Sorely missed and big shoes to fill.
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Game Changer [1813]
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Re: +1. The transition from a legend (and master motivator) to an
Oct 24, 2023, 8:51 PM
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I think he would be a Great coordinator in the booth and not on the sidelines. I can’t imagine if I was a hard nose linebacker or lineman and after I made a bad play coming over and getting chewed out by a baby face dwarf! Not really going to motivate me to do better!
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: +1. The transition from a legend (and master motivator) to an
Oct 24, 2023, 9:17 PM
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Yep the defense seems to be lacking that competitive edge that Venables brought.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 4:07 PM
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I was here during Hatfield/West also, and you're right, it was brutal. This stuff today is just perplexing.
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Game Day Hero [4121]
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I always hate the Hatfield comparisons
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Oct 23, 2023, 5:35 PM
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Hatfield made about $650,000 a year, adjusted for inflation. Swinney makes around $11,000,000 a year. So of course the expectations will be higher. Right now I'm not worried about the playoffs...I just want to beat someone. A real someone. A quality football program. We haven't done that in a long while.
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Paw Warrior [4812]
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Re: I always hate the Hatfield comparisons
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:14 PM
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Hatfield never won any big games either. We gotta suffer through this year, it is what it is theres no over night fix for this team. I think Dabo has shown us time and time again he wont stand by idle. I expect major changes this offseason once recruiting is wrapped up. I just hope riley gets to have input on the staff changes impending.
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CU Medallion [19547]
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Re: I always hate the Hatfield comparisons
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Oct 24, 2023, 10:07 AM
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That’s an asinine statement. Expectations for Hatfield’s first year were national championship. Danny had put together arguably his most talented group ever. I was one of the first to start booing the Hatfield on field product. Two games a coach cannot lose at clemson; 29-0 all time against UVA (loss) and SC (loss). Hatfield took a national championship caliber team and backed into an ACC championship.
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Legend [6987]
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Re: I will admit, I don't know my rear end from a hole in the ground
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when it comes to coaching, but I believe I could have taken that team that Hatfield inherited, and at least have won the ACC.
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Re: I always hate the Hatfield comparisons
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Oct 26, 2023, 3:53 AM
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You must have not been there.
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Solid Orange [1394]
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Just a few weeks ago they were better than the 2016 team.***
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Walk-On [126]
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Re: Just a few weeks ago they were better than the 2016 team.***
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:47 PM
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Your reply👉yawn
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Gridiron Giant [15410]
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Actually
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:51 PM
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it did make me LOL.
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Offensive Star [345]
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The same fools who believed that
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Oct 23, 2023, 3:43 PM
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will believe today’s nonsense and probably every other thing Dabo says on any given day. But they have a weird emotional attachment to the guy, there’s no logic involved at all. Let ‘em be their weird selves.
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National Champion [7908]
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Hey dyldocoot765
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:15 PM
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It’s not hard to understand Clemson fans having a level of devotion for a coach who got us to six straight college football Final Fours and brought home two national championships. You’ll never know what that feels like, so I totally get your confusion.
That said, the level of rationization and outright delusional sounding stuff coming out of his mouth this season is disconcerting. Some of that is just “Dabo being Dabo”; but he has to begin to address some of the obvious issues and stop talking about how hard it is to win. For $11M a year he needs to figure it out - FAST.
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Re: Hey dyldocoot765
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Oct 24, 2023, 9:40 AM
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I totally agree that a person that gets paid almost a million dollars a month should always have the right answer for anything that was happening within their job that they are being paid that much money to do, and if they don't have the right answer or the perfect solution, that is a crystal clear sign that they're being paid way too much $$$$$$...
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Offensive Star [345]
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Re: Hey dyldocoot765
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Guess I struck a nerve.
If you weren’t on the Hill in the rain for two hours prior to kickoff before the 88 FSU game, and if you weren’t rushing the field after Treadwell beat UGA the year before and if you weren’t in the stands for every home AND road game supporting the Tigers for the entire time the ACC screwed us on probation — and I bet you weren’t around for any of those — you can shove your coot comment right up the orifice from which you were born. Sincerely.
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Game Day Hero [4408]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:46 PM
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If you had asked him in 2021, he would have said he had the best QB that he’s ever had running the offense. Wonder what he will say about this offense in a few years
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Legend [6832]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:46 PM
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Dabo built this thing one time and he can do it again. He had to come much farther the first time. Facilities and talent.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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of course he can do it again, but it will have to be in a very different........
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:51 PM
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and uncomfortable way for him...........we'll see if he's willing to "do what it takes"
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Orange Immortal [62824]
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Re: of course he can do it again, but it will have to be in a very different........
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Oct 24, 2023, 9:48 AM
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Telling your buddies that they no longer have a job working with you anymore will be pretty tough to do, but then again, those buddies could end up being the reason that he's not getting paid almost a million bucks a month anymore...
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:50 PM
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If you are not listening, I would tune in for the last bit of the show. Dabo giving great insight on some of the issues. Being brutally honest about it all.
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Walk-On [126]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:52 PM
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Yep; I have listened to the whole interview👍😊
Great interview.
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I would not say he is being honest
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:52 PM
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he is talking about everything being rainbows and sunshine again. He is calling this a great team and Cade an amazing player.
It's offseason talk again. Almost seems to be in denial of what has happened.
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Walk-On [126]
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Re: I would not say he is being honest
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:56 PM
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yawn
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: I would not say he is being honest
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:57 PM
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What do you expect him to say? He addressed all the obvious issues once again. He's not going to go on a radio show and throw the whole staff under the bus.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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so he didn't address all the obvious issues then......
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:59 PM
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I don't expect that on the radio, but don't sell it as brutal honesty when it really wasn't.
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Solid Orange [1327]
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Re: I would not say he is being honest
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He’s speaking to the low IQ fans that will buy whatever he’s selling. And it actually works for some.
I don’t believe anything he says. He has lied too many times.
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Orange Blooded [2265]
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Re: I would not say he is being honest
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Oct 24, 2023, 7:50 AM
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He should. Right now he's coming across as disconnected from reality. His credibility is WAY more important than any assistant coach's feelings.
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Paw Master [16128]
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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been listening........he's not being brutally honest.
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he's being very PC and diplomatic
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National Champion [7999]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 3:26 PM
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Lol at Dabo being “brutally honest about it all.” You must be his agent.
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Head Coach [934]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:54 PM
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Yeah all games start 0-0 so yeah that was a position where you had a chance to win.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 24, 2023, 9:15 PM
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Not too long ago instead of having chances to win we demoralized our opponents. Having a chance to win each game is average.
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Clemson Conqueror [11369]
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Agreed
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:57 PM
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A lot of people act like we have Jimbo leading us
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CU Guru [1538]
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then explain..
Oct 23, 2023, 5:24 PM
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how we have gotten to this point? Consistent decline over the last 3 years
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Paw Master [16128]
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Lets see...Where do you go up from National Champions?
Oct 24, 2023, 10:52 PM
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Serious answers only. And don't start making excuses. Just answer...
"Where do you go up from National Champions?"
I'll hang up and listen.
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Solid Orange [1327]
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Re: Agreed
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We’re looking more and more Iike a Jimbo Fisher coached team each week.
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CU Medallion [18461]
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Re: Agreed
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You don’t actually watch much football do you?
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Orange Blooded [2265]
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Re: Agreed
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I'm no fan of Jimbo's but his D3 kids aren't playing at ATM.
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Rival Killer [3048]
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Re: Agreed
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I bet his real kids are playing around an ATM
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Standout [238]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Dabo just said on the roar this team is way better than the 2021 team. He said he was scared the offense in 2021 "wouldn't get a first down." He is now discussing the turnover issues, and says they have been in a position to win every game.
Dabo has also said multiple times the team is very good and talented, just cannot stop making the same mistakes.
He is emphasizing the journey this team has been on, and he says there time will come eventually. One thing I can say is I am very happy Dabo Swinney is the head coach at Clemson. I know this season has been rough, but I truly believe the future of Clemson football is going to be just fine. He will make the necessary adjustments I believe.
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Truly delusional. Wow!
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 3:00 PM
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your reply is totally delusional 👍😊
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All-Conference [440]
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He is giving some good insight. Blessed to have him no matter what some say!
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I know I will get blasted by some but I don't care. He's taking full responsibility and says this young team has a lot to learn and he is trying to teach them. He's attitude is so positive, which a lot of you need to learn from. I've been around Clemson football a very long time and if he leaves I promise you will all regret it, whether you will admit it or not. Go Tigers! All in Always!
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Solid Orange [1327]
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Re: He is giving some good insight. Blessed to have him no matter what some say!
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We can pay a coach a quarter what we’re paying Dabo and still go 7-5 or 6-6.
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Game Changer [1935]
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Re: He is giving some good insight. Blessed to have him no matter what some say!
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So exactly what are you suggesting? Dump CDS and hire who? Beamer? Thank God the AD is smarter than you.
Why are so many of you so hung up on the salary? Win 2 titles in three years and you are going to be rewarded. Would you rather we have not won them? Sheesh, a little introspection would go a long way with some of you.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Yep. I called it earlier this morning on Brad’s show and they were lukewarm about it, but I an more sure than ever. The winning combination for Clemson Football was Brent Venables tough No-Nonsense-commitment to win at any cost coupled with Dabo’s eternal optimism. They guys thought I was just talking about defense but Brents attitude covered the assistants and offense as well. Dabo still has the optimism, but our Sheriff left town for Oklahoma and we need a new one in town.
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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That's a good point. I think Wes has done fine this year, but he's not going to be the guy moving forward. You got to have a good on-field coach who isn't afraid to chew someone out. I have no doubts Wes is a great x's and o's guys, but sometimes a good butt chewing is the only thing needed for a player.
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Valley Protector [1426]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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I heard you on WCCP and you mad a lot of sense, this time last year OU was not so sure about Sheriff Venables. I do agree the current staff does not bring the intensity of Coach V.
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Solid Orange [1369]
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If he was actually scared they wouldn't get first downs,
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why would he not clean house on offense?
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: If he was actually scared they wouldn't get first downs,
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He probably realized they missed on some guys in recruiting, and had some holes in the offense yet to be filled. I think this explains the timing of bringing in a guy like Garrett Riley, he believes all the pieces to have an elite offense are there now.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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That's coach speak BS. PURELY FOR THE TEAM'S AND THE 98.5% CONSUMPTION. Get used to it. Also for keeping recruits committed.
Let's just hope Dabo knows the truth about the team and fixes it at end of season. If not, we are in West land.
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Game Changer [1721]
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Well hopefully the right guys are let go at the end of the season because things won't get better, no matter the talent level, unless there are good coaches on the staff. There has been so many guys not develop over the last few seasons, and some have just gotten flat out worse.
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National Champion [8019]
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No doubt I think this team is better than the 2021 team
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that team was the worst offensive team i've ever seen at Clemson. DJU threw 9 TD passes all year.
This squad looked great early on offensively especially in the passing game against Miami. I liked teh deep shots especially if our guys could time their jumps better. Nobody should be able to body up #80 on the outside. He just jumps too early. Randall looked motivated early. I was hoping that would continue.
We were better than them but our problem is that when we get pinched and the pressure is on we start folding it up. Nobody is level headed. Cade started forcing balls to Briningstool late and just needed to throw to other players that were probably open. We just are very immature. Fumbling on the goalline 4 times this year is unheard of and just lazy play.
We can move the ball but we can't ever finish anything. Started against tennessee last year in that bowl game. Should've been a point of emphasis in the offense to figure out a redzone offense. Its been a crazy year. I just have to laugh sometimes at how snakebit we are.
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Clemson Conqueror [11565]
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So far he has made the tough decisions. Ur right
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I don't doubt he will stop now. I am in awe when I see people posting garbage about the game passed Dabo. They said that about Saban but he's still here. Guys like Spurrier, Dabo, Saban, etc... are the ones who get emulated.
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Solid Orange [1327]
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Re: So far he has made the tough decisions. Ur right
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:10 PM
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Saban adapted and kept winning.
Dabo hasn’t yet adapted and is resistant to any change.
Very different reactions and outcomes.
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Orange Blooded [2265]
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Re: So far he has made the tough decisions. Ur right
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Saban has been the model of adaptability. I don't think I have ever heard someone say the game has passed him by.
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Re: So far he has made the tough decisions. Ur right
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Oct 24, 2023, 9:55 AM
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The game has never passed Saban. He adapted from having a game manager QB to an athletic QB, he used the portal to plug holes. He may complain about things, but it doesn't stop him from adapting in order to stay competitive. Dabo hasn't done all of that yet.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 4:56 PM
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Why is Dabo worrying about comparing teams instead of working on solving today's problems. 2023 should be what the focus is on and what matters , the rest is for the history books and reminiscing over a glass of fine Bourbon.
College football , in particular CLEMSON football has given me much joy over the years and I admit the struggles this year hurt bad but the truth is that it's all just entertainment for us fans and Lord knows I love it BUT losing the love of my life, Miss Mary, to COVID after 47 years my wife , now that hurt and that was important . I'm not whinning as God blessed me those 47 years with her and oh yea Miss Mary was one helluva Tiger Fan too. Just saying everything is gonna be ok. Go Tigers !!
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 5:27 PM
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Dabo is never going to change. Clemson is doomed. He’s not going to fire his friends and former players
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 23, 2023, 8:55 PM
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im in this camp but i sure would love to proven wrong…again
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 8:58 PM
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Saying we are doomed is a bit of an exaggeration. He fired one of his good friends to try and improve the offense, so I believe he will make the necessary adjustments after the season.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:33 PM
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I admire your optimism. But Dabo’s public comments in the past 2 1/2 yrs have changed. Our program has been going down hill for more than 2.5 yrs. His steadfast refusal to change with the times may be the death of him. He re-invented college football and took us to the top. But others have caught up and with nil and the portal they have passed us. I would love to think he will fix things but I am not seeing signs that he will.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 24, 2023, 3:11 AM
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Dabo is correct that we have been in position to win EVERY game. No team has kicked us up and down the field all night but if you say Duke, maybe you can make that argument. Clemson has beat Clemson every game, sure the other teams deserve credit for their efforts but when it comes down to it, we did it to ourselves.
It feels much better to win but I love my Tigers no matter how it goes. I'm just puzzled when the ball control issues started? Was it last year, I forget which game when Sh1p dropped a simple pass?
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 24, 2023, 10:16 AM
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True, We have been competitive in every game, but that isn't saying a whole lot.
We should be dominating these teams, with the possible exception of FSU. We aren't exactly playing the cream of the College Football crop
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 24, 2023, 4:00 PM
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That's really true about any good team that loses. 4-3 nc st can make that same argument less the ND game.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 24, 2023, 9:16 PM
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Yea you’re right. The bottom line is that elite teams don’t lead the nation in fumbles. Most of Cades fumbles seem to be a direct result of how sporadic he plays. I think that kid downs 5 monster energy drinks before each game. He will be a great QB when he can calm down and just play. I think he will step up in a big way next year.
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you can believe in one hand and crap in the other
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Oct 24, 2023, 7:42 AM
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…and get back to me with which hand fills first.
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Its very unlikely
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Oct 24, 2023, 8:45 AM
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That coach Venebles will return to Clemson . Have you noticed how the team has faltered since he left???
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Re: Dabo on the roar
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Oct 24, 2023, 11:31 AM
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He said the 2021 offense was great back in 2021.
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 24, 2023, 4:37 PM
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He’s said a lot of stuff ……..
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If the team has that much talent, the coaching must be really bad.***
Oct 24, 2023, 7:29 PM
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Re: If the team has that much talent, the coaching must be really bad.***
Oct 24, 2023, 7:48 PM
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Very tough bad ### players win games. If you don’t agree with that you don’t know football. Football IS NOT a finesse game. It’s a game of tough guys willing to knock the “shyatt out of the opponents and then not say”excuse me”!
Clemson does not have this kind of players. Choir boy get their #### handed to them much to often. .
Play big boy football Dabo. For heavens sake,!!!
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Re: If the team has that much talent, the coaching must be really bad.***
Oct 24, 2023, 10:47 PM
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They do seem way softer last couple years
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Re: Dabo on the roar
Oct 24, 2023, 9:37 PM
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Man. I hope you’re right. I just fear. Pride can be the enemy of progress. Stay hungry Tiger!
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