Re: I see where ND is a dry campus but is drinking allowed at

mrmatt

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Where ya know,

Nov 7, 2022, 3:39 PM [ in reply to Re: I think you have to say a few extra Rosaries, though . . . ]

where is the Trinity in the Bible? Or hypostatic union? Well, ya have to do some theology, right?

Well, in a nutshell, from the Reformed perspective I'd argue that "theopneustos," from 2 Tim 3 indicates that the Scriptures are from Yahweh himself, imbues it w/ obvious natural authority. This much I don't expect Catholics to disagree with, but then, I'd further argue that until or unless you cite anything else as the mediating or interpretive authority layered over that, then you have no affirmative case for any such additional "institutional" authority. With that statement, I may have lost **some** Catholics, but I bet many are still with me, but would then just argue that said case for additional interpretive authority **has** been adequately made. I would disagree with them (which is a related but distinct argument) that that has been sufficiently made.

In other words, the Reformed argument is not, and has never been, that the words "sola scriptura" or some rhetorical equivalent are found in scripture, any more than various other theological articulations such as Trinity or hypostatic union are found in there. But it doesn't need to be. The Reformers believed in "good and necessary consequence thereof" (Westminster Confession). Catholics implicitly understand this as the Scriptures don't articulate Papal/Magesterial infallibility, nor Papal succession in the types of terms they would articulate them in, either, and yet they see them as consistent with Matthew 16. 2 Tim 3 does, of course locate the authority ultimately in God's revelation, and then the debate becomes whether or not Catholic Magesterial authority constitutes "theopneustos" in some way.

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