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I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:24 PM
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that I'm not even close to giving up on Dabo and his sure enough ability to put the right people in place at Clemson for our FB team to play at an elite status. But what does concern me is that, he has always promised that the best is yet to to come, and the best is the standard for our FB team.
All of these standards of his has worked really well IMO until the NCAA came up and chopped the legs out from under head coaches/teams with the transfer portal that allows the student athletes to leave without any repercussions, and there isn't a thing to slow the flow of athletes jumping ship in mid stream bc there is a life line waiting for all these freshman/sophomore players that isn't making first team starter positions before they have gave them selves time to develop, and what development they have received has been a total waste of time, effort, and thousands of dollars that full ride scholarships has already invested into these player that are throwing these scholarships back into HC's faces.
So here we are with a very stubborn HC refusing to fill positions with other players that has thrown a scholarship back at a HC at some other school, and I understand that thinking bc it makes him feel that he is being a part of a screwed up process that the NCAA has created without ever getting any feed back from the schools that are being affected the most by the rule the most.
But if Dabo won't play the transfer portal game like everyone else, our team success will suffer the most bc of Dabo's refusal to play the game along with everybody else. How many really good players has our team lost to date through the portal, without a one being brought back through the way that others has left. The best yet to come is broken as long as we're losing players that could develop into the best, and they're not being replaced with other players that could be developed!!! IMO, we will continue falling further behind if Dabo keeps using signing day to replace what's left if we can only sign 25 players per the NCAA rule, It will be impossible to catch back up at that the rate we're losing players if Dabo doesn't change his thinking and use the portal also, Right? What you say!!!
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:46 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:46 PM
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Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Totally agree. It is clear that we’re going to lose players to the portal so we have to take players from it as well. We also have to accept NIL and use it to our advantage. I love Dani but our success tha last several years was due to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of a lot of people, starting with Our B of T, administration, and IPTAY.
Meant Dani, not Dani. Fat fingers.
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Tell 'em u6c coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Good God man!!!
Nov 14, 2021, 5:20 PM
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I've lost me train of thought (and another shiny object just showed up), so I'm not even going to read the other posts after this cluster ####.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 4:57 PM
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The other issue this presents is Dabo giving walkons the scholarships that are left over. I know scholarships are for only one year, but I can’t ever recall a scholarship being handed out that it was rescinded the next by Dabo. That’s puts us further in the hole.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 5:03 PM
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Agree. Why not "recruit" the portal to fill needs on the team with kids who still fit in with the current culture Dabo has fostered at Clemson? If a Chase Brice type kid were available at the beginning of this year, why not go after him?
The mantra of the Marines is improvise, adapt and overcome. It isn't keep doing the same thing when the situation changes. Surely there are athletes from other schools with great character available in the portal that would be an asset to Clemson as a whole and to the football team in particular.
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That's a LIE!!!
Nov 15, 2021, 12:21 AM
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There's not a single player- NARY A ONE - in the portal with great character that would be an asset to Clemson University or the football team in particular.
IF THERE WAS.... our portal guy would have told Dabo and he would be on the team.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 5:07 PM
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NO !
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Parity is great for CFB
Nov 14, 2021, 5:09 PM
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Especially with the CFP expansion upcoming.
?? IMO, I don't think the portal is a complete dud. I think players SHOULD get a right to transfer at least once without penalty.
A coach can up and go at anytime with practically no consequences. Players should get that right too.
As much as I'd love to keep all the talent that signs to Clemson, I can't blame a kid that wants a shot at playing if they have NFL aspirations.
Let's face it, most kids playing CFB are coming from the lower income households. NIL is going to be an attractive option. I also have no doubt Clemson is going to continue find ways to still be an attractive option with NIL included.
???? In regards to using the Portal for our benefit, I mean...who are we trying to bring in?
Do we treat it like a Walk-on program where we invite a bunch of transfers and have them work through spring ball to take an extra look? Then cut those that are obviously not meeting the standard?
IMO sounds like a bit of a sticky situation for Clemson because...how many transfers have a shot at starting at Clemson? We talk about depth but how are we going to convince a kid that wants to play more that riding the bench or being a non starter contributor at a winning program is great for them?
?????? I definitely don't have the answers and just honestly curious to what other posters may have heard that are close to the program.
Obviously, we definitely need to start signing more players somewhere (portal, recruiting, both)
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Transfer portal facts
Nov 14, 2021, 5:10 PM
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Transfer portal drum beaters.
Who are these great players in the portal that would fit into our 2 deep?
How many players came thru the portal to: Clemson - 7 left Clemson.. does not include Kendrick. He was pushed. Net 7 down. Bama - 11 left Bama - 3 came in. Net 8 down. Ga - don’t say Kendrick. He was asked to leave due to “issues”. 13 left UGA. 2 came in. Net 11 down. Ohio state - 5 left OSU. 1 came in. (Kicker). Net 4 down.
So again - who are these specific players who are there that we can plug right in? Easy to scream at the wind - hard to actually accomplish anything by screaming.
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Re: Transfer portal facts
Nov 14, 2021, 11:42 PM
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Transfer players have played in and won a NC, all of them aren't bad players, some of them happen to be on a team that was probably loaded at their position where a HC played his most senior players over giving a younger talented player a try.
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Re: Transfer portal facts
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Of course it's not the end all, be all. It's not a huge issue at Clemson because Dabo is indeed signing great players.
However, there are times I think it would be worth looking at the portal. I'm sure LSU doesn't regret bringing in Joe Burrow from Ohio State and that Ohio State doesn't regret bringing in Justin Fields from Georgia.
Dabo may well be looking into the portal and just hasn't seen what he wants. One would think there are some OL dudes that could be of use at a minimum.
I am extremely satisfied that Dabo is our head coach and certainly knows more football than I can hold in a thimble, but I do think when times change, coaches have to be willing to adapt.
Coach K figured out the one and done thing. Had he not, he would have retired long before the end of this season. The portal is a small tool in the overall scheme of a football program, but can at times be very helpful to a team.
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allinorangeallthetime except if Dabo doesn't do this
Nov 14, 2021, 5:17 PM
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WTH do you know about football?
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 14, 2021, 5:29 PM
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that I'm not even close to giving up on Dabo and his sure enough ability to put the right people in place at Clemson for our FB team to play at an elite status. But what does concern me is that, he has always promised that the best is yet to to come, and the best is the standard for our FB team.
All of these standards of his has worked really well IMO until the NCAA came up and chopped the legs out from under head coaches/teams with the transfer portal that allows the student athletes to leave without any repercussions, and there isn't a thing to slow the flow of athletes jumping ship in mid stream bc there is a life line waiting for all these freshman/sophomore players that isn't making first team starter positions before they have gave them selves time to develop, and what development they have received has been a total waste of time, effort, and thousands of dollars that full ride scholarships has already invested into these player that are throwing these scholarships back into HC's faces.
So here we are with a very stubborn HC refusing to fill positions with other players that has thrown a scholarship back at a HC at some other school, and I understand that thinking bc it makes him feel that he is being a part of a screwed up process that the NCAA has created without ever getting any feed back from the schools that are being affected the most by the rule the most.
But if Dabo won't play the transfer portal game like everyone else, our team success will suffer the most bc of Dabo's refusal to play the game along with everybody else. How many really good players has our team lost to date through the portal, without a one being brought back through the way that others has left. The best yet to come is broken as long as we're losing players that could develop into the best, and they're not being replaced with other players that could be developed!!! IMO, we will continue falling further behind if Dabo keeps using signing day to replace what's left if we can only sign 25 players per the NCAA rule, It will be impossible to catch back up at that the rate we're losing players if Dabo doesn't change his thinking and use the portal also, Right? What you say!!!
Even if Dabo fields a bad team what do you want him to say? There’s no hope? All hope is lost, we look like bums? Good grief!
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it is simple.. stop donating to Iptay
Nov 14, 2021, 5:38 PM
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if you are unhappy
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I think we look at it, but come to your conclusion that a
Nov 14, 2021, 5:43 PM
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good fit is not there. There may be the occasional guy that's there, but is he guaranteed to start at Clemson? Probably not, and that's why most of them leave their precious location.
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Re: I think we look at it, but come to your conclusion that a
Nov 14, 2021, 11:49 PM
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That surely won't fix nothing. There has been Tiger fans that donated to IPTAY their entire life and never lived through winning a NC, much less two of them. IPTAY donors have actually made it possible for Clemson to build, build, and build until we have moved up to Elite status. Getting mad and leaving never solved getting the team that you want, and will support!!!
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OL has always been a weakness yet hes failed to address it***
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We're boycotting the Tranfer Portal but to what end?...
Nov 14, 2021, 6:04 PM
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Does anyone believe the Portal will be eliminated eventually, if we continue to deny ourselves access to it?
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Re: We're boycotting the Tranfer Portal but to what end?...
Nov 14, 2021, 11:55 PM
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I think that it's here to stay, and at some point it will have to have adjustments made like was said, a player gets one transfer for free, and any others will involve some sort of penalty, but the transfer is still possible if a player can deal with a second transfer penalty....
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I agree.
Nov 14, 2021, 11:53 PM
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This notion that there aren’t players in the portal good enough to start at Clemson is ridiculous. We currently have linemen that can’t block ACC defenders consistently, a QB that can’t hit 50% of his passes consistently, and receivers who can’t get open. I’m confident there are players in the portal who can do those things.
Plus, the portal can absolutely help us address depth at positions, even if they aren’t going to be stars.
We have lost some talented players to the portal. You can’t tell me that we couldn’t find players equally as talented to come to Clemson.
Many of the guys in the portal are good guys who just want a fresh start and a chance to play. We can be a great destination for the right players. Dabo will have to come around on this, and I believe he will. I just hope his stubbornness doesn’t cause him to wait too long.
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Re: I agree.
Nov 15, 2021, 12:09 AM
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Absolutely, and saying that there's not any good players in the portal, is saying that we're the only team that's losing talent that when developed are NC type players, and we have lost players to the portal that could help a team make the playoffs, and play for all the marbles.
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Re: I just want to let it be known
Nov 15, 2021, 12:56 AM
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I've always thought that when you lose a player, you check the transfer portal and replace them if someone is available. One team that I watched Saturday (believe it was Michigan State) the announcers commented that they had rebuilt their team with 20 transfers. Times change.
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