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Valley Legend [12263]
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Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:01 PM
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Consensus is we are going 5-7 at best. Going to move on from Grisham, Austin on the offensive side. Lemanski Hall, Goodwin and maybe Conn on the defensive side. Dabo is gonna blow it all up. Dabo will be who he is and ride out the season and say the right things, but expect big changes.
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Game Day Hero [4438]
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Think we can steal one of UNC or ND
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:03 PM
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And beat GiT and SCAR
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Valley Legend [12263]
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I mean I hope so
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:06 PM
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But most see the writing on the wall, GT and USuck are the only ones everyone feels are realistic wins.
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Re: I mean I hope so
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:02 PM
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Georgia Tech is looking less and less beatable
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Re: I mean I hope so
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:26 PM
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We M U S T beat So Carolina.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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Re: I mean I hope so
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:41 PM
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That’s all that matters at this point
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Legend [7062]
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Re: I mean I hope so
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Oct 29, 2023, 7:14 PM
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UNC is definitely beatable. Their D is looking like last years to me.
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Re: Think we can steal one of UNC or ND
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:30 PM
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Win 3 of the next 4? I'd be shocked. I think 2-2 is the best this team will do. 1-3 likely.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:04 PM
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And the program feels good about him and think he will be fine next year, the issues are all coaching and systematic issues from that side of things.
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:55 PM
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I don’t see how anybody hasn’t watched Cade and seen the talent he has. He’s trying to do way to much because he basically has to. If Cade is given an actual OL and playmakers he will take this team far.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:11 PM
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Some how this got a TD lol
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Ring of Honor [22226]
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:18 PM
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Probably because you aren’t crying like a spoiled child who’s never been told no 😂😂
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Clemson Icon [25975]
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Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:11 AM
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I appreciate all the information you have been giving us. Obviously you know some players or coaches really well.
I hope you're right. Austin, Grisham, and Hall have been a disaster. Goodwin, you know is gone after Dabo called him out after the FSU three man rush thingy- was it FSU?
Spiller, eh, he can't do much damage where he is and Dabo owes his career to that man. Fans owe him everything too. We are not the program we are today had he not signed.
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Re: Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.
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Oct 30, 2023, 11:43 AM
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Why are yall so ###### determined to have Goodwin fired? We have the #7 defense in the country. Yeah he made a bone headed move at the end of the first half against FSU, but that's it! We would be 2-6 if it wasn't for him and our defense!
Yeah he doesn't run around the sidelines jumping up and down like he's on an eight ball of cocaine, that's what yall want from what I'm gathering.
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Rival Killer [3049]
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Re: Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.
Oct 30, 2023, 12:36 PM
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He can’t recruit!
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Game Changer [1892]
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM
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He has talent and pretty good arm strength, so did Tajh but couldn't see the entire field, don't think Cade has the moxie or feel for the game Tajh had and not many CU QBs could throw the deep ball like Tajh, not Watson or Trevor, but Tajh is Cades maximum upside. He plays and interviews like a ninth grader at the Class A HS level, just super-excited all the time. Don't see him bringing us back to the glory days, hope Vizzina can.
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:19 PM
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Tajh is not the kids max potential you are insane, I want you to go play QB behind that line and tell me what you see. If Tajh was as accurate as Cade we could’ve competed for a title with that offense.
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
Oct 29, 2023, 10:03 PM
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Dang Skippy he is good. He’s trying to do it all so much that he can’t even switch it off when he needs to, like pulling it from Shipley when it wasnt even an option.
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Game Changer [1795]
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:32 PM
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I agree I think he will be fine. It’s his first year as a starter in a new scheme with a poor line/wideout group. Look at how Jordan Travis developed at FSU
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All-In [11098]
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Tske Away SH1P and give Cade 1-2 6'4" WRs
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Oct 29, 2023, 10:32 PM
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game over
CK2 is a great one
let's see if Clemson supports QB1
jk they will
Go Tigers!
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Re: I asked about Cade as well
Oct 30, 2023, 11:44 AM
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I agree with that. I think Cade will be fine. It just coaching and what he is working with..
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Tiger Titan [48945]
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I hope youre right.
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:07 PM
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Let’s hope our key players and recruits stay committed to the program.
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:08 PM
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I think Richardson should be on that list too… “passing game coordinator” and our passing game is terrible… I know a lot of that is on development of positions but watch any game and teams figure out how to get guys open and move the ball… everything is so hard for us on offense it’s hard to watch. Everything is a struggle and it’s almost a shock when we complete a 15 yard pass .
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Game Day Hero [4433]
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Richardson is a huge liability
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:12 PM
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Sooner he’s out the better
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:15 PM
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I’m pretty sure in Richardson’s role he could not be an issue good or bad. He is an OC in training imo.
His high school teams were true air raid offenses. Lot of big plays and points.
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM
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At Northwestern , he had QB and receivers that were about a foot taller than the defense
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:08 PM
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Your info is typically spot on. Is this anonymous inside intel?
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Valley Legend [12263]
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people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM
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From Dabo on down.
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Solid Orange [1316]
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Re: people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:50 PM
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So Dabo is going to blow up Dabo? Sure.
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Re: people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:52 PM
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His track record has proven he will you’re just to ####### ignorant to take a second to look at the past
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Well dang I wonder if all them know about it if they have not already quit.
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Do you think Garrett Riley is going to stay next year or leave for another job?
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:12 PM
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I would be shocked to see him leave if Dabo does make these changes. With the right hires, we seriously could have the greatest one season turnarounds. We have the talent to compete for titles, but coaching blunders have squandered that.
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If Dabo does make these changes
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:13 PM
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Do you think he would let Riley choose his own staff on the offensive side?
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Paw Warrior [4843]
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Re: If Dabo does make these changes
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:16 PM
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I’d imagine he gets a substantial input. I think some of the Dabo play calling shenaningans we see is just him knowing what the players are able to do based off their coaches—not to say Riley has no offensive input because I think that sentiment is far from true.
I would guess Dabo and Riley will have guys in mind and collaborate on who fits best.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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I asked this directly and got a vague answer that seemed to follow this logic***
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:52 PM
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Valley Legend [12263]
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I was told that we dont think he leaves
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:19 PM
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He makes too much and his stock is at rock bottom, no one will pay him what we are currently and Dabo is going to make the changes to set him up to succeed. No word, I asked, if he will get any input on the hires but he likely will have a seat at the table.
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I appreciate the response sir!
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:22 PM
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As well as all your insider information.
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LOL
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Oct 30, 2023, 11:31 AM
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He’s making stuff up so he can feel important on a message board.
I mean…it’s semi-interesting to read as someone’s speculation.
But I don’t take any of it as actual information.
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Re: I was told that we dont think he leaves
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:33 PM
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What are the chances of Jeff Scott coming back as WR coach and recruiting coordinator?
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Thanks for the update!
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What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***
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Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:13 PM
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No one is safe this year
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Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:16 PM
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Who?
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:18 PM
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Do you foresee any substantial moves regarding the portal with either losing current players or adding players?
To be clear, I don’t think the portal is our problem, but just curious is there will be any changes made.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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Honestly didnt even ask
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:23 PM
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Just asked what “what are we going to do to fix this?”
What I posted was the overwhelming sentiments of what to expect.
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Paw Warrior [4843]
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Re: Honestly didnt even ask
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:27 PM
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Cool, that’s what I figured. Dabo isn’t opposed to the portal as some seem to parade. He just sees the value in keeping his dudes and developing players. Teams that are able to develop players don’t take a lot of transfers—see UGA & Bama. We have lost that ability; thus the decline.
Wouldn’t anticipate much shake up there except for maybe an experienced OL or two.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54104]
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Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:33 PM
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and has gone out of his way to criticize it.
Other than that, he’s all for it.
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Re: Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:38 PM
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You mean just like you support the football program? Troll.
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Re: Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:23 PM
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🤣🤣
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Re: Well, portal just came up in a convo
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:45 PM
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Major concerns we lose both Ship and Mafah… I wouldn’t mind losing ship. That’s why “Rb should be interesting “
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Re: Well, portal just came up in a convo
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:54 PM
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To transferring or taking a shot at the league? Regardless, losing Mafah would be huge. Ship seems like a great dude, but his antics this season along with his inability to hold the ball at crucial moments is frustrating.
Mafah is a beast. Losing him would be tough.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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transfer***
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: transfer***
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Mafah almost transferred last year. NIL deal kept him here.
If Shipley misses a game or two, this is Mafah's chance to take over. I hope we get to see it.
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"We"?***
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:27 PM
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Not sure why we would move on from Goodwin. Our defense has been pretty solid
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:29 PM
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I was wondering the same. The only thing I could imagine is that he just lacks the intensity Dabo might want. The defense has played well, but they haven’t played with intensity, and the customary one or two busted plays a game seems to be a byproduct of that.
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM
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Read the original post chief.
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LOL.***
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:32 PM
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I’ve been saying this for a while. Change is coming. Hopefully a silver lining to the season is it speeds up the process.
…. Multiple issues across the board. Roster management and coaching. Gotta change the OL philosophy on room size. We don’t need to hit the portal a ton… Just sparingly. But make a legitimate effort.
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100% on "legitimate effort"****
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:32 PM
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If you get the opportunity to ask, I’d be curious to know how the off-season read of this year was so far off from reality. Did the coaches genuinely think this was a good team that would play for a national championship? Seems like a massive misread on the program to have that expectation and then have a consensus on the inside being a 5-7 season.
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:34 PM
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I know spiller is in year two, but that’s another that needs to go. Pass blocking out of the RB’s is still pourous. Shipley stares at his feet instead of the holes a lot, and the ball security has been god awful.
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Is that the latest from Tiger Illustrated HLRT?
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Valley Legend [12263]
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Idk
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:47 PM
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I’m too cheap to pay for memberships anywhere… hence my non member status here
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Asst Coach [845]
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:38 PM
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Except for the 5-7 part, this update legit hits like Rendrick Taylor. I’d be highly encouraged if the majority of these things happen. Go Tigers!
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Orange Elite [5500]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:47 PM
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I hope they talk Batson into retiring. I don't know if your in is with a S&C team member but this team is injury prone, weak, and slow that's an indicator the off-season is not being used properly. The OL has been weak for over 2 decades and the strongest dudes on the team are usually freshmen, how the hell can anyone tell me Peter woods being the strongest dude on a D1 team is a positive?
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110%er [3836]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Oct 29, 2023, 5:53 PM
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We signed him!
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Orange Blooded [2147]
TigerPulse: 89%
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Yeah really a true freshman ****
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