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How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..
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How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:03 AM
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I remember many here posting some really scumbag stuff about him vs Cade.




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I'd say the hate has evened out for sure.

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:10 AM
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I'm not saying I'd welcome DJ back, but I would probably take him over Cade right now I guess?

Maybe just give me Cole Stoudt?

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Re: I'd say the hate has evened out for sure.

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:53 AM
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No please not Cole, he threw mor pick 6's or untimely momentum killing interceptions than any QB in Clemson history, but Tony Elliot did fixed him in his final bowl game against OK. DJ got shell shocked by UGA with heavy blitz's because we don't hit our QB in fall camp / practice and he was never the same after that. Cade had the same thing happen in the LSU game and he is seeing ghost as well. It is/was in their head now, which is the hardest thing to come back from. Its like the yips in golf.

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Re: I'd say the hate has evened out for sure.

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Oct 1, 2025, 11:51 PM [ in reply to I'd say the hate has evened out for sure. ]
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Time makes you forgot. Cade is not very good, but DJ was terrible. Would take Cade but not by much. Those teams won inspire of DJ.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:14 AM
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Because he followed Clemson's first number 1 overall pick.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:17 AM
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Part of the reason is the fact that DJU followed three years of watching TL16 so even the casual fan could see a giant difference in the level of QB play. Personally, I have advocated benching Cade as it is foolish IMO to keep him in the game when he is playing so poorly. If nothing else, riding the pine might just wake him up.

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because he was the guy after TL16 and his dad was a PITA

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:19 AM
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plus, he sucked.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:20 AM
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Because Cade's Dad isn't running his mouth! Big Dave brought much of the dislike upon his own son. As parents, sometimes its best to sit back and let our children grow up a little. So I'd venture to say that Big Dave was DJ'S issue at Clemson more than or equal to his play on the field.

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DJ never had a season like cade put up last year

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:22 AM
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The numbers were always pretty bad. He was definitely less mobile and probably equally prone to hold the ball and/or commit a turnover. Think this team with dj would be even worse.

Remember when read option handoff was part of the offense and a real threat? What ever happened to that? Seems to have died during dj’s tenure

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Re: DJ never had a season like cade put up last year

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:32 AM
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DJ went a full year and threw just 9 TD's against 10 picks.

Then the next year he threw 22 TD's against 7 picks. Better, but he still averaged less than 200 ypg. That's not very good.

Cade threw 36 TD's against 6 picks last year and averaged 260 ypg.

Cade's ceiling is way higher than DJ's. He may be playing badly right now. His head is definitely not in the right place. But he's still a better qb than DJ

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Re: DJ never had a season like cade put up last year

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Sep 30, 2025, 10:26 AM
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Life_Long_Clemsonfan864® TD for quoting stats? Lame

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Re: DJ never had a season like cade put up last year

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Oct 4, 2025, 1:35 PM
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Agreed. That was someone that just couldn’t face facts. I loved DJ and hated all the mean comments against a pretty young kid, but he had no mobility and the game was much too fast for him.

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Re: DJ never had a season like cade put up last year

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Sep 30, 2025, 11:19 AM [ in reply to DJ never had a season like cade put up last year ]
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Yes. I remember. DJ made the wrong read about half the time on the read option and when he made the right read and kept it he ran like he was pulling a sled for the first 3 steps. He couldn't even outrun Defensive lineman. Much less linebackers. The two or three times per game we tried it with Cade in the past he also makes the wrong read half the time. Cade is much better in an up tempo, no huddle, hurry up offense. But we can't do that this year for some reason. Last year was fine with only some small improvements to be made with Cade But this year Cade is more like the first 6 games of 2023 or the Bowl game against TN. We can't run the West Coast offense because you need a QB who is accurate, whose timing is impeccable with his receivers, who gets the ball out quickly, who has a high completion %, etc... which then allowed the running game to succeed because it opened up gaps due to spreading the field. Since Cade can't seem to do this skill set consistently like Trevor and Deshaun him and DJ must have a running game to open up the passing game. Instead of vice versa with T-Law and Watson. They both could set up the run with the pass. Cade and DJ have to have a solid running game including a mobile QB who makes the right reads on the read option and runs the ball also with designed runs. DJ and Cade both can't seem to do that. Our offense has been limited severely for 5 years because of QBs who don't have the necessary skills to compete in todays college/semi-pro football. Todays modern QB must be very good or excellent at all skill levels. He can't have a couple of skills that he's missing or sub-par like before. Because it's too easy for these modern day defensive coordinators to exploit the QBs weaknesses. All they have to do is stuff the run by loading the box and Blitz more than half the time and rattle Cade or DJ and it's all over but the crying. Because they both can't beat you with the pass consistently enough to beat you or put you away. Only rarely. Some things can't be coached out of a player. So, why doesn't Cade get pulled out of the game when he is screwing up and costing the team a game or letting an inferior team stick around? That is the million $ question. Why won't Dabo Bench anybody? Dabo definitely won't start players for several reasons BUT once you become a starter at Clemson it is virtual impossible to lose your spot with Dabo.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:30 AM
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QB wins are a terrible stat, go back and look at some of those defenses. Still had Venable's guys all over there.

I give him huge credit for the ND game (not his fault in the loss during covid) and the Wake game.

In 21' we never gave up more than 28 points in a game. and held 8 teams to under 14 points.

In 22 we were 1-3 against teams that scored more than 30 points. (wake forest being the one win, and he did look great in that game) held 9 teams to 21 points or less.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:32 AM
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Some of it was that in '20 remember he started against ND and Syracuse and looked good as a true freshman when TL had covid. The next year he entered the season as a heisman candidate, with a Dr pepper commercial and a truck load of. What happened? Epic face plant. Looked scared and lost. The next year he looked like he might have it figured out until the Syracuse game and he was never the same.
Cade's first year had his ups and downs but he didn't look lost. Last year he played great, looked in command and confident. This years play is, well, just hard to watch at times. In a single game he will look lost and hesitant and a few plays later, he'll look like the player from last year. DJ never had more than 4-5 respectable games in a row, Cade had the whole '24 season.

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DJU vs CK2 got it.


Sep 30, 2025, 9:36 AM
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DJ is a bigger Cade.

Cade is a smaller DJ.

Obviously, CV is totally inept.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Sep 30, 2025, 9:48 AM
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Because we are used to this now. A couple years ago bad QB play was new to us.

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I think he was hyped more

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Sep 30, 2025, 9:57 AM
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People were assuming no drop off after Lawrence. He was supposed to be the 3rd legend after Watson and Lawrence.

I remember Clemson radio saying things like DJ homecoming for the national title game in LA in 2023.

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DJ literally couldn't throw a forward pass. One of the worst qbs i have ever see


Oct 5, 2025, 10:44 AM
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Should have played TE.....or baseball. But NOT qb1 of a major D1 power program.

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The mob blames dabo now.

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Sep 30, 2025, 10:19 AM
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You gotta keep up...it changes a.lot.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 11:18 AM
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Probably because he was our first NIL QB and he made Clemson football unwatchable. Cade is giving him a run for his money.

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DJU got an enormous ration of poo after being seen in his peeemp outfit

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Sep 30, 2025, 11:44 AM
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Had the peeemp hat, coat, etc.

TNet’s DJU haters went ape-poo crazy.

I thought our posters (I.e., TNet’s posters on this) were disgraceful, given the triviality of a college kid’s clothes.

College kids (seems to me that boys are worse than girls in this area) wear goofy clothes while thinking they look cool. Big deal. College kid wears goofy outfit. Lock him up.

As if DJU’s erratic play wasn’t reason enough to criticize him. Nope, not enough. ALSO tried to trash him because of his clothes.

After seeing that ridiculous outburst from many on TNet, I figured that it would only be a matter of time that Clemson fans would be perceived by DJU as having some weird personal vendetta about him. What a great way to help a Clemson QB settle his nerves down.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 4:05 PM
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Did you watch the games?

CK hasn't handed the ball to the other team...

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 1, 2025, 7:41 PM
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You obviously haven't been paying attention this year...

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 2, 2025, 12:12 AM
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Bunglelelei quite literally handed off the ball to a pitt player

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Sep 30, 2025, 4:07 PM
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Last season bought Cade some cover and goodwill.

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because he benefited from a good defense


Oct 1, 2025, 7:39 PM
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benefited

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 1, 2025, 7:48 PM
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Because expectations for this team have been dropping and not as much was expected until this year. When DJ got here playing for a NC was the expectation.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 1, 2025, 7:50 PM
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I would take Kelly Bryant over either of the two. I would say DJ was surrounded by a better oline and had a lot of weapons and hard to bring down, but Cade is surrounded by a lot of talent too. Is the oline better now than before though? I haven’t seen it this year though. Cade had missed wide open receivers or late to throw. He locks in on one receiver and stares him down.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 1, 2025, 7:53 PM
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I watched DJ throw 5 yard passes straight into the f'ing dirt and air mailed passes that exceeded 10+ yards for 2 years in a row. Dude sucked hard and somehow managed to make the basics of being an athlete look incredibly hard. If it wasn't for our defense bailing our rears out of so many games and if we didn't have Mafah and Shipley (which was our only pulse of offense in 2021-22), DJ's record would not be good.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 2, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Lol, Big Dave TD'd this I guess.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 1, 2025, 9:18 PM
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As bad as Cade is, he’s still light years better at QB than cement feet.

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If you could choose between Cade and DJU and


Oct 1, 2025, 9:25 PM
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Chase Brice, who would you pick to start Saturday?

Yeah, me too.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 1, 2025, 9:39 PM
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I beg to differ...Cade is getting abused in here pretty bad DJ style.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 1, 2025, 9:55 PM
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He sucked worse.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 2, 2025, 12:09 AM
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dj flat ### sucked. Had it not been for an amazing defense that scored well, we would have lost a dozen more games during his tenure.

give me cade any day of the week, even during his worst game

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 2, 2025, 12:14 AM
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Cade hasn't thrown a 3 foot pick 6 to rushing defender.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 2, 2025, 3:03 AM
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Correction: Will Shipley won more games.

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Oct 2, 2025, 3:18 PM
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It's very simple. DJ had to follow TL16 and DW4. There was no way he or any other QB was going to measure up to their level of play. Cade had a few years of DJ to soften the blow.
Please don't try to make it a race thing. That's just wrong.

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Oct 5, 2025, 3:51 PM
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DJU was the Spanish Flu to CK's mild case of the sniffles. It's apples to oranges..I strongly encourage all the uninitiated,! dim,; and the illiterate to take advantage of Google read aloud or any number talk back apps to correct this severely misinformed/uniformed & categorically false perception that a number of you suffer.(BTW, the Earth is not flat..stG)

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 2, 2025, 5:28 PM
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I think DJs dad made it much worse on him....DJ was a terrible quarterback but you are correct that cade sucks just as bad.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..

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Oct 3, 2025, 9:14 PM
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The standard expectations were higher with DJ than with Cade.

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 3, 2025, 11:35 PM
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No comparison sadly. DJ stsrted one year and 2 other games and was a turnover machine. Cade replaced him and won the ACC Champ and MVP and has won 2 Championships in 3 years. Yes, he is playing at his worst this year but our problem goes much derper than his play this year.
Let's hope the players have come together as well as the coaches during this week and we see a different team tomorrow....

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Oct 5, 2025, 9:53 AM
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Missing wide open WRs by 8 yards. His throwing accuracy was as good as a punter's.

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Not a big fan of CK but Google their numbers, people who raise this silly


Oct 5, 2025, 10:42 AM
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question evidently suffer from a kind of numerical dyslexia (if there is such a thing) when it comes to reading raw data... as well as the inability to understand the concept of WINNING IN SPITE OF HIM-(they definitely have a poor sense of meme humor)

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Re: How come DJU got more hate than Cade Klubnick? DJU won way more games..


Oct 5, 2025, 12:30 PM
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DJ gave me zero sense of confidence. Cade as of right now still does. Less now than It used to be for sure but better for my self than DJ.

Cade slowed everything down a good bit which was definitely needed. I said it yesterday but the quiet confidence like the QB at GT. The guy just never looked to be in a hurry and you could sense he had complete control of his offense.

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Oct 5, 2025, 2:58 PM
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DJ should be playing another sport. He’s painful to watch. Cade has moments of brilliance…not just one shining game aka Notre Dame for DJ. Don’t get me wrong Cade is sort of bi polar in play but DJ was just plain nuts. Go Tigers

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Oct 5, 2025, 6:51 PM
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DJ had a MUCH better defense bailing him out. If Cade doesn't score every drive I start to feel nervous it will get out of hand.....

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