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Hate on Brownell
Nov 19, 2021, 7:18 PM
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Some are calling anyone upset with basketball these days a "hater" who only post after we loose.
I have only been here a year and have posted photos, memories, and etc basketball things.
I admit that basketball is just a distraction for me when football is over.
I have attended many games going back to the 60's.
As time clouds memories, did some research out here on the porch tonight.
Here are some facts as to Clemson and ACC:
Brownell --> 9,8,5,10,8,10,6,11,11,9,9,10 --> average is 8.7.
Purnell --> 7,9,10,9,9 --> average is 8.8.
Shyatt --> 5,4,2,4,5 --> average is 4.
Barnes --> 5,7,9,7 --> average is 7.
Ellis --> 5,3,10,4,7,10,2,4,5,6 --average is 5.6.
Foster --> 5,8,3,5,8,6,4,2,3 --> average is 4.9.
What does all that mean?
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CU Medallion [53243]
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Clemson basketball is a joke
Nov 19, 2021, 7:27 PM
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Hate who you want.
I couldn't name 3 players in the past 5 years.
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All-In [44050]
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You’re part of the problem.***
Nov 19, 2021, 11:15 PM
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Legend [16058]
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The problem is we continue to employ an average coach.***
Nov 20, 2021, 12:50 AM
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All-TigerNet [10913]
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Re: Hate on Brownell
Nov 19, 2021, 7:30 PM
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It means there are too many haters here:
Hate Brownell
Hate Dabo
Hate Elliott
Hate Streeter
Hate Grisham
Hate Caldwell
Hate 'em All
They are Tiger coaches and need to be supported, not hated on.
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Heisman Winner [140537]
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Nov 19, 2021, 7:34 PM
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CU Medallion [58417]
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Let's be honest about Clemson basketball.
Nov 19, 2021, 8:58 PM
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I like coach Brownell a lot. I think he is a great guy and an extremely knowledgable coach. Under different circumstances here, or at a different school, he may have regularly had top 10 teams - I don't know. But this much is absolutely undeniable:
Clemson is perfectly satisfied with perpetual mediocrity in basketball. That's exactly what the numbers you show above mean.
Brownell has certain traits and his teams have certain qualities and limitations that always keep them from getting to that next level. How much of that is on Brownell and how much of that is on the AD and the powers that be, is hard to know, but he's the coach and it's hard to totally seperate him from that consisten mediocrity.
I have been a Clemson basketball fan since I was a little kid. I will be one until I die. I will, however, be an honest fan, which sometimes means being critical, when called for. I hold out hope for the day when Clemson gets really serious about basketball, and commits to have a program that regularly competes for the ACC championship. It may never happen, but either way, I ain't going anywhere.
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All-TigerNet [10905]
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You've lost me...just what are those numbers? I thought they
Nov 19, 2021, 11:09 PM
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were the Tiger's standing each year in the ACC, then got down to Shyatt's average of 4, then knew it couldn't be that.
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Re: You've lost me...just what are those numbers? I thought they
Nov 20, 2021, 7:50 AM
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It took me a minute as well.
It's ACC regular season wins per season.
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Orange Blooded [2976]
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Re: Hate on Brownell
Nov 20, 2021, 8:02 AM
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Numbers should be listed vertically so as to refute gravity
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CU Guru [1893]
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It means Brownell was/is the coach when the ACC expanded
Nov 20, 2021, 10:43 AM
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the number of conference games. He had/has a better chance of winning more games based simply on the numbers. Plus the expanded conference brought in more teams that were not ACC caliber in the beginning. Bottom line, he has played more conference games. If he was more than an average coach, his number of wins should be higher.
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