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Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:24 PM
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I don't see why either would do that.
He seems to be a great guy and a great coach, but --
Last season won 13 games at PS and this year was fired half season -- because it is PS and they deserve to be #1 every year.
His buy out is $48 million, so they must really want the guy gone.
Does a coach with $48 million in the bank still have the fire in him to spend time re-building VT?
VT does not have near the resources of a PS -- winning there is not easy like at PS.
VT is a hard place to win at, only Beamer has done that. Guys like Beamer (Bowden, Dabo) who can build something from nothing are rare.
I think VT needs to discover a young coach with potential (Like Virginia did).
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The PS firing with that kind of buyout does make you wonder...
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:27 PM
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if there was something else than not being able to win big games.
But Franklin is only 53 and will be recruiting in familiar territory. If he can make some good hires, it could work.
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Re: The PS firing with that kind of buyout does make you wonder...
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:35 PM
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My daughter went to Penn St and I got to know some of the alumni. I’m told they were just tired of not getting over the OSU/MI hump and the poor overall record against ranked teams. They felt he was given the resources to get the job done and simply didn’t.
I like Franklin and think he will do well at VT.
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Re: The PS firing with that kind of buyout does make you wonder...
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Nov 17, 2025, 6:22 PM
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Imagine how they’re going to like doing worse, which is more likely than not.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:33 PM
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At least it will be easier to attract 4* and 5* players, provided they have enough bag money.
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provided they have enough bag money.
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:35 PM
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They do not and now their rival Virginia is rising.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:36 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me. He wants to get back into coaching. He's been a solid recruiter. He'd be in a league where it's easier to win games. Money won't be the issue, it's wanting to stick it to Penn State for firing him...
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Would VT be getting him at a discount since he's basically still getting paid
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:38 PM
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by PS? (I actually thought those buyouts were contingent on the HC not landing a similar job.)
A lot of people - myself included - often assume that once someone gets millions of dollars they automatically turn into a lazy slob. I'm sure it happens - but not always...
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:39 PM
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I think he definitely has the fire in him - he was publicly embarrassed by being fired mid-season after taking PSU to the playoffs. He's only 53, plenty of life left in him.
A better question is "Does Dabo have the fire left in him" to do what's needed at Clemson?
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:43 PM
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You should start a thread on that topic and not sneak it in for a cheap shot. It makes you look like a coot, and I know you are not that.
I personally believe Dabo has enough fire to do more than any coach.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:58 PM
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I think he does as well, but he's gotten complacent the last few years.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:59 PM
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RC Tiger, I say Yes Dabo has the fire to win. The question I have for you and others , is do you have the willingness as Clemson fans to give back to Clemson what is needed to win big ???
Will fans support Dabo through the rest of this year of adversity and support him next year ??
If it takes a year or two to get back on the uphill train, will fans be patient as long as progress continues ??? Or will fans turn on Dabo and the team like pissed off mad as he$$ rattle snake and go for the jugular vein ???
I am “ All In “ how about many others who have been very critical of Dabo this year. ???
Go Tigers 🐅🐅🐅
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You are assuming that Clemson fans havent been giving enough
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Nov 17, 2025, 6:19 PM
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for Clemson to win big.
I think that is a dangerous assumption.
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Re: You are assuming that Clemson fans havent been giving enough
Nov 17, 2025, 6:22 PM
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The deal now is much bigger than Fan $$.
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Re: You are assuming that Clemson fans havent been giving enough
Nov 17, 2025, 9:55 PM
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Tug,
You make an excellent point. I believe Clemson fans have given more than their fair share towards Clemson’s success. Unfortunately we are trying compete on the same level with OSU who has approximately 68,000 students, UGA has almost 50,000 students, Clemson currently has about 28,000 students. Alabama has over 42,000 students. We are trying to play catch up by increasing our student population. But how long will that take. ???
If you compare the size of each University’s student population then it gives you an example of why it is difficult for Clemson to compete with these Universities in NIL opportunities, RS resources since each school is responsible for approximately $20 million dollars.
We should have bolted from the ACC years ago. I just do not see how Clemson can fairly compete with schools like UGA, OSU, Texas, Alabama, Texas A&M when they have much larger student bodies and TV contracts that pay them about twice as much money than Clemson receives.
I wonder how many meetings Dabo has to attend that are just to discuss options for new revenue sources. IMO Dabo’s $11 million dollar salary as not enough for the current pressures his deals with daily. If fans could follow him for a day or a week they may at least have a better understanding of what he’s battling to keep Clemson in the CFP’s. I seen the last 3 or 4 years take a physical toll on Dabo.
I don’t attend football games much because it cost me for 2 tickets, food and travel about $300 to $400. I attend the 1981 NC game spending less than $200. My cousin spent $10,000 to attend the 2016 NC game spending.
Many Clemson Alumni and fans like me who attended another School can no longer afford more than 1 or 2 games a year. At one time I attend most home games and some away games. But I had resources for free tickets and travel was not as expensive.
This why I feel Clemson fans are better off getting behind Dabo and give him as much moral support as possible. We may not be able to meet the financial demands by players and recruits. Recruiting is really difficult for Dabo and his staff because schools like OSU can buy commitments right out from under Dabo. It can be discouraging for players and possibly impact their quality of play. These are just my opinions.
I hope Dabo can turn things around with the resources at his disposal. But will that be enough ?? He does need our thoughts and prayers. Constant criticism just makes his job that much more difficult.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:41 PM
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They have went the young coach route the last couple of times. Franklin can win at VT.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
Nov 17, 2025, 4:44 PM
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Dabo doesn’t like to lose. He wants to win big again. The question might be,will he take all tbe steps needed to win in NIL world?
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:43 PM
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Tug,
In today chaotic climate in play fo pay football do you think Penn State would like a mulligan on the firing of James Franklin ???
How much damage is LSU doing to their potential HCing hire by sparing with Brian Kelly in public. Especially say he was never really fired !’ Who’s running Huey Longs nut house in Louisiana??
Do you think Florida or FSU will finally get the right Coach this time ??. I believe in today’s financial chaos the next hire for the 3 schools above and then add Auburn to that mix is more important than ever.
I appreciate you post. Many provide quality content.
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Toss in Auburn and Arkansas. VT may come out of this cycle looking pretty good..
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:47 PM
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in comparison to all this other chaos.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 4:55 PM
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Sad thing is these days the best coach might have a degree in $$$ as that is now the deal.
"In the day" Blood Bloods" ruled as they had more $$.
Now one Billionaire can change things over night.
Think what an all in fan like T. Boone Pickens could accomplish these days.
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Nov 17, 2025, 5:08 PM
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I never thought college sports would become the chaotic lawless Wild Wild West it has become. 💰💰💰 and greed are consuming sports because of pure greed. So much so that even the greedy who are blinded by their own ignorance are dragging themselves along with everyone else over the cliff !!!
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He has a reputation for being a bit of an a$$hat...
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not only to the people around him, but to the media as well, especially when his teams weren't doing as well.
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Re: He has a reputation for being a bit of an a$$hat...
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Nov 17, 2025, 6:42 PM
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I never have cared for him since his Vandy days with him getting involved with his players sex assault case
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 5:08 PM
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All of these contracts have a mitigation clause on the payout...
What PSU owes Franklin will be reduced by some inverse proportion to what he makes at VT.
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Life is good!
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Nov 17, 2025, 5:37 PM
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Trust me, as a Hokie, getting Franklin is the absolute best we could have hoped for. He immediately moves us from beyond awful to mediocre overnight. And since we are in the ACC there will be less chance that he loses the Big Games.
I had my heart set on Chesney from JMU, but Franklin will open up the wallets that we need. Although I am not a fan of the People's Republic of Northern Virginia, I do realize they have crazy money to throw at the program.
I look forward to fighting with the Tigers for ACC football championships once again.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 6:08 PM
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Every time I've seen an interview with him, it's after they lost a big game.
and to him it's always the players' fault for not executing.
To me, he's just a thinner Brian Kelly.
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I think Franklin would be a good hire for Virginia Tech.
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They’ve gone sort of cheap lately and it has cost them.
They need a well known coach who has proven to be successful. If he could do it at Vandy, he can absolutely do it at VT.
He seems to have drive and passion and there is no reason to think he wouldn’t pour everything into the job there.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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Nov 17, 2025, 9:40 PM
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Great guy???
LOL
I don’t think so.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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If franklin can get them to 7-5 next year VT will be thrilled, 8+ wins every year out there will be very welcome at VPI after losing to in state G5 schools every year.
Franklin can absolutely do that especially now that Tech just approved 200+ million in extra athletics funding.
They need a steady hand getting tech back to respectability and stability after the disaster of the post Beamer era.
They've gone through the "hire young up and comers" and it's been a disaster for a few years so having an experienced coach with a couple rose bowls and a BIG10 title would be welcome over there.
I don't think he has them turned around like cignetti but I don't see them being god awful like they have been. I think Penn State will rue firing him. I could see him poaching some of the more local(ish) talent in the tidewater region.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
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VT is a bit of a sleeping giant. They want to win there, they just got behind on hires and finances.
The last year they have been doing some soul searching for a re-commitment to athletics... I expect them to slowly crawl back and this is probably the first step.
Its a good thing... the ACC needs a strong VT.
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Re: Franklin to VT ?
Nov 18, 2025, 10:10 AM
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Good they can be strong after we are gone. The ACC is and will continue to be a second rate conference to the B1G and SEC with their increasing payout.
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